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Ralemont

not me
The Jack and Miranda argument is a good barometer of how the game tends to deal in absolutes. In my first ever playthrough of ME2, Miranda died during the Suicide Mission because I sided with Jack in their argument, but didn't have enough paragon or renegade points to diffuse the situation. I don't remember the order of how I went through missions, but obviously the way I played meant that I was dabbling in Paragon/Renegade enough that I was kind of screwed in that instance. Like I said, that was the first time I ever played ME2 though. Subsequently, I just stuck with diplomat nice Shepard. Andromeda will be interesting, given that the systems are now updated and the addition of more varied tone-based responses will allow for a bit more nuance, even if the end result is the same.

Also I was thinking about this while playing ME1 but every time I remember that game is basically a decade old I want to fly into the sun.

That's actually impressive! IIRC Miranda is one of if not the most difficult character to kill during the SM.
 

Patryn

Member
That's actually impressive! IIRC Miranda is one of if not the most difficult character to kill during the SM.

She can only die if you bring a non-loyal Miranda to the final boss fight, right?

Or can you send a non-loyal one as the escort for the crew and get her killed that way?
 

Ralemont

not me
She can only die if you bring a non-loyal Miranda to the final boss fight, right?

Or can you send a non-loyal one as the escort for the crew and get her killed that way?

Looking at the chart she's actually middle-ish in the "who dies with a low HTL score" so there's that, the final fight thing, escort, and if you really want to be a dick you could send her as the vent specialist I guess, haha.
 

kboyrulez12345

Neo Member
I noticed r/masseffect jumped right on the comment Shinobi made here in the community thread about a new Andromeda trailer this week.

I guess we've got some people who visit/read the thread but don't post. We don't bite. :p

Yeah, that was me who made that thread lol. I'm not afraid of NeoGaf, I'm just a quiet person. :p
 

Ridesh

Banned
So the trailer is on thursday I suppose.

Polish the fuck out of that trailer, if one weird animation slips out it will dominate the entire discussion.
 

sdijoseph

Member
That's because ME3 is the best game in the series. You're just finally coming around to it.

Its funny you say that, I did a play-through recently and that is what popped out at me. When I initially played these games in 2012 I thought ME2 was far and away the best one, but now the stiffer combat and lack of almost any squad interaction in ME2, plus the really great addition of the Citadel DLC to ME3 probably makes it the best game in my eyes now too.
 

aember

Member
Hey, I've got a question!

I'm playing through the trilogy right now, using EA Access on Xbox One, and I finally started up Mass Effect 2. I got the Cerberus Network thing installed, but any attempts at getting the Zaeed and Normandy Crash Site DLCs is just no go.

"There are no items available for purchase at this time."

Has anyone else gotten this error? Maybe got past it? I was kind of hoping to get as much content done before Andromeda as possible heh.
 
Hey, I've got a question!

I'm playing through the trilogy right now, using EA Access on Xbox One, and I finally started up Mass Effect 2. I got the Cerberus Network thing installed, but any attempts at getting the Zaeed and Normandy Crash Site DLCs is just no go.

"There are no items available for purchase at this time."

Has anyone else gotten this error? Maybe got past it? I was kind of hoping to get as much content done before Andromeda as possible heh.

Are you trying to buy them or install them? If you already own the add-ons you have to go to "Manage Game" and manually install them from there. Otherwise I don't think you can physically buy the DLC for Xbox 360 games (or at least the Mass Effect games) from the XB1 Store (You'll have to go to the Xbox website store and buy DLC there).

Also installing the Cerberus Network doesn't mean you've installed the stuff that comes with it. You'll have to manually install Zaeed: The Price of Revenge and Normandy Crash Site separately.
 

aember

Member
Are you trying to buy them or install them? If you already own the add-ons you have to go to "Manage Game" and manually install them from there. Otherwise I don't think you can physically buy the DLC for Xbox 360 games (or at least the Mass Effect games) from the XB1 Store (You'll have to go to the Xbox website store and buy DLC there).

Also installing the Cerberus Network doesn't mean you've installed the stuff that comes with it. You'll have to manually install Zaeed: The Price of Revenge and Normandy Crash Site separately.
The Xbox site just shows "Not available" where the purchase option should be.

I have the option to purchase the DLCs other than the Crash Site and Zaeed.
 
The Xbox site just shows "Not available" where the purchase option should be.

I have the option to purchase the DLCs other than the Crash Site and Zaeed.

If it doesn't show up in your "Ready to Install" section of "Manage Game" for Mass Effect 2 I don't particularly know what else to suggest.

It's my understanding that when they made Cerberus Network free (it was originally not free) a lot issues popped up on the xbox store relating to the content it included

http://answers.ea.com/t5/Mass-Effect-2/Mass-Effect-Xbox-One-DLC-Problem/td-p/5684493

The above link seems to imply you aren't alone with this issue.

EDIT: Actually digging deeper I found this post from reddit

So, it is a part of the Cerberus network content. I had the same issue, until I did the following:
Load mass effect 2, and tell it to connect to the servers (the first day I tried I had no luck, guessing high traffic because they recently became backwards compatible so keep trying!)
Once connected, agree to purchase the Cerberus network pass (it might have Microsoft points next to it but is actually free when you click through).
Once you have the pass, go to the DLC menu in-game and you should be able to select all the free DLC from there, including Zaeed! You can also buy the paid dlc through here, but I just did those through the Xbox one store.
Once you have selected all of the free dlc content in game, go back to the Xbox one main screen and go to manage game for ME2. You can select bought content to download from in there!
Hopefully this helps!

Supposedly everyone in the reddit thread said that worked.
 

aember

Member
If it doesn't show up in your "Ready to Install" section of "Manage Game" for Mass Effect 2 I don't particularly know what else to suggest.

It's my understanding that when they made Cerberus Network free (it was originally not free) a lot issues popped up on the xbox store relating to the content it included

http://answers.ea.com/t5/Mass-Effect-2/Mass-Effect-Xbox-One-DLC-Problem/td-p/5684493

The above link seems to imply you aren't alone with this issue.
Ouch, well thanks for the help. Guess I'll just have to make do without the DLCs.
 

aember

Member
Check my edit to my above post, supposedly there's a solution.
Sorry, I was just about to edit my post hah.

I failed at going into detail in my original post. The error that I'm getting is when trying to do the exact same steps that you posted in your edit - through the DLC menu in the game.

Anything that's shown as "Cost (Microsoft Points): 0)" in said menu gives the error.
Anything that has an actual MSP price - I've got the option to actually buy it.

Guess I'll have to print out Zaeed's portrait and stick it next to my monitor!
 

DevilDog

Member
All mass effect games are incredible.

It's just if you hate one for some reason, it will take some time for you to be able to appreciate it fully.
 

Mindlog

Member
All mass effect games are incredible.

It's just if you hate one for some reason, it will take some time for you to be able to appreciate it fully.
I hate things about all the games equally!

Oh yeah and thinking back on the P2P MP. I could actually vanguard pretty well even off-host. However, the non-hitscan weapons could be a nightmare. The Falcon and Kishok suffered big time. Those weapons would be my main concern.
 

Daemul

Member
FFS Kasumi, just now on her loyalty mission after being told she can't enter the party:

"Hmm I wonder why Hock won't let me in, he has never seen me and doesn't know what I look like, maybe he's watching his ass"

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This fucking girl.


I mean duh, you come to a fancy society party dressed up like a dodgy looking motherfucker with a hood covering your face and all, and you expect people not to get suspicious? Lmao Kasumi please. No wonder Hock was able to figure out who you were so easily even though he had never seen you before, you made it so obvious.

I love this mission overall, but this aspect of it has always annoyed me, it relies too much on Kasumi being dumb. No idea why she didn't just come dressed up in a proper formal outfit and masqueraded as Shepard's date or something, the mission would have been so much easier.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
FFS Kasumi, just now on her loyalty mission after being told she can't enter the party:

"Hmm I wonder why Hock won't let me in, he has never seen me and doesn't know what I look like, he might just be watching his ass"

giphy.gif


I mean duh, you come to a fancy society party dressed up like a dodgy looking motherfucker with a hood covering your face and all, and you expect people not to get suspicious? Lmao Kasumi please. No wonder Hock was able to figure out who you were so easily even though he had never seen you before, you made it so obvious.

I love this mission overall, but this aspect of it has always annoyed me, it relies too much on Kasumi being dumb. No idea why she didn't just come dressed up in a proper formal outfit and masqueraded as Shepard's date or something, the mission would have been so much easier.

Blame it on Bioware for not wanting to create her a special outfit. :p

Funnily enough, they did take that time with your squadmembers in the Citadel DLC. I'm guessing it was mostly a case of not having a fully modeled head for Kasumi.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I love this mission overall, but this aspect of it has always annoyed me, it relies too much on Kasumi being dumb. No idea why she didn't just come dressed up in a proper formal outfit and masqueraded as Shepard's date or something, the mission would have been so much easier.

Style over substance. I adore the series, but there's no denying that beginning with Mass Effect 2 BioWare put additional emphasis on stylistic approach to scenarios, character designs, and narrative beats that don't always follow a believable, grounded internal logic. The simplest example being the mostly superb design of characters coming at the cost of technically sensible space outfits. A lot of stuff in Mass Effect 2 and 3, and I'm going to guess Andromeda too, is just the way it is because it's cool.

Mass Effect 1 is a much better game for that kind of stuff, especially narrative context for the aesthetic.
 
Yep, which is why I'm glad at least the humans in your squad in Andromeda have proper armour and aren't wearing space pajamas in atmospheres of planets boiling hot or super cold. I miss being able to put functional armour on characters.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Yeah, it's one area I'd personally prefer BioWare find greater balance in. I mean, ideally I'd like Mass Effect to teeter back to its original grounded vision and presentation, but I'm fine with taking more more pulpy, comic-book like designs if that's what BioWare want. It's still a good look, even if it's at the cost of plausibility.

Sometimes it's too far in the latter direction for my taste though. Ashley is the perfect example. Her design in Mass Effect 3 is terrible in my opinion, or at least a terrible shift. It's purely titillation; heel boots, skirt armour, immaculate designer hair, etc. Absolutely nothing about her looks like someone who is supposed to be armed with an assault rifle and out on the field.
 
Yeah, it's one area I'd personally prefer BioWare find greater balance in. I mean, ideally I'd like Mass Effect to teeter back to its original grounded vision and presentation, but I'm fine with taking more more pulpy, comic-book like designs if that's what BioWare want. It's still a good look, even if it's at the cost of plausibility.

Sometimes it's too far in the latter direction for my taste though. Ashley is the perfect example. Her design in Mass Effect 3 is terrible in my opinion, or at least a terrible shift. It's purely titillation; heel boots, skirt armour, immaculate designer hair, etc. Absolutely nothing about her looks like someone who is supposed to be armed with an assault rifle and out on the field.

Well to be fair Ashley, Kaidan, Liara, and James all have functional actual armour costumes. Even if they aren't set by default at least the option is there unlike ME2.
 

DevilDog

Member
In Mass Effect 2 they killed and revived Shepard cause it would look cool.
ME3 had space ninjas because we're anime now.

Style over substance was the name of the game after ME1. I doubt things are going to change.

I'm very pessimistic about this. More and more footage coming out supports it. I was actually surprised the Tempest didn't have a fucking jacuzzi

I'm sure someone had the idea.
 
Sometimes it's too far in the latter direction for my taste though. Ashley is the perfect example. Her design in Mass Effect 3 is terrible in my opinion, or at least a terrible shift. It's purely titillation; heel boots, skirt armour, immaculate designer hair, etc. Absolutely nothing about her looks like someone who is supposed to be armed with an assault rifle and out on the field.

And that's why nuking her on virmire is the canon choice :)
 

Renekton

Member
In Mass Effect 2 they killed and revived Shepard cause it would look cool.
ME3 had space ninjas because we're anime now.

Style over substance was the name of the game after ME1. I doubt things are going to change.

I'm very pessimistic about this. More and more footage coming out supports it. I was actually surprised the Tempest didn't have a fucking jacuzzi

I'm sure someone had the idea.
To be fair, one developer based an entire game around ME-style space ninja and became one of the most successful online co-op.
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
There's a new one? Hopefully the first thread made was about alien sweat to keep the reputation.
That was what I was wondering. I had no idea people made a new BSN.

Are they exceedingly negative about Bioware?
I had no idea there was a new BSN too. I used to frequent the older ones a lot for ME3 builds.
If it's anything like the old BSN, no thanks.

ME3 multiplayer threads were kickass though.

The new BSN is fan run. I've only read a few threads on it, but the negativity doesn't seem to be as bad as it used to be.

I find it a breath of fresh air compared to the original BSN, which was a wretched hive of scum and villainy more often than not XD.

There is some top notch theorycrafting going down amongst the alien sweat threads too, which keeps it nice and varied: my handle is Ivory Samoan on there if you happen to swing by and chat! http://bsn.boards.net/

Eh, not anymore so than other places on the internet, I think.

I think it's really quite civil (in the most part), good discussion with you the other day about The Witcher 3 and the Mass Effect comparisons on there, good times :)
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
What are you guys hoping from the next trailer?
 
Not too many spoilers. Maybe a reveal for those 2 as of yet hidden companions.

I know myself, I wouldn't be able to stay away from any spoilers, so I hope they stay light on them until Tides of Numenera and Horizon releases, which is probably around the time when I'll go on media blackout.
 
Thirding the hope we get to see some of Cora and Liam. Squad stuff in general would be nice, but more so if we get more attention to the non-Peebee members.
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
What are you guys hoping from the next trailer?

To be honest, I would like something that's quite wow-worthy, if for nothing else than to negate some of the negativity/hate going on all over the show re: Andromeda. I know it shouldn't, but it does drag my own excitement down with it, like drowning rats clutching at my feet...trying to take me to down to their gloomy and dark depths.

Silence has not been golden in Mass Effect's case I must say....people panic when there is nothing showing on the Ladar.

Personally, I would like to get a glimpse of the factions at play, the squad members and some context and what ship armaments are on the other ships (not the Tempest) in the AI Fleet & Flotilla.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I hope the trailer includes Ryder quoting "What do you mean this was really a Cerberus Initiative?"
 

Maledict

Member
Utterly uninterested in gameplay. We've had several gameplay videos, all have been dull and badly received. Mass Effect isn't primarily about gameplay - as long as they keep with the Me3 formula and improve on that gameplay will be fine.

I want to see story, and narrative. I want to see squad mates, cinematic space ships, vast alien landscapes and alien enemies. I want to feel excited about the game like I did for the first three games - Mass Effect is space opera, show the damn space opera!
 
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