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[IDKFA]

Before looking at the below list, just take a few moments to think of the most dangerous cities in Europe. I did this before looking at this list and I thought Rome, London and Barcelona. You might think the same. Maybe Milan, Paris in the top ten. Well, here it is:

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Rank City Country Index Rating

1 Bradford United Kingdom 67.1

2 Marseille France 65.3

3 Coventry United Kingdom 65

4 Birmingham United Kingdom 64.4

5 Naples Italy 62.8

6 Grenoble France 61.2

7 Montpellier France 61.1

8 Liège Belgium 60.7

9 Nantes France 58.5

10 Paris France 58.1

11 Lyon France 57.5

12 Manchester United Kingdom 56.2

13 Nice France 55.8

14 Malmö Sweden 55.5

15 London United Kingdom 55.3

16 Athens Greece 55.3

17 Amadora Portugal 55.2

18 Odessa (Odesa) Ukraine 55.2

19 Brussels Belgium 54.9

20 Dublin Ireland 54

21 Dnipro Ukraine 53.9

22 Milan Italy 53

23 Thessaloniki Greece 52.5

24 Turin Italy 52

25 Barcelona Spain 51.7

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-europes-most-dangerous-cities-according-to-citizens/

Finished going through the list?

What the fuck? Three UK cities are in the top 5! Birmingham I get. I have family there and the city is a shit hole, but I find it hard to believe that Bradford is the most dangerous city in Europe. In fact, France, UK and Italy have the most cities on this list. It should be noted that this list is based on residents' self-reported experiences and perceptions.

I hate talking my country down, but having three cities in the top ten is embarrassing. No wonder my Polish wife is begging to move back to Poland and live there.

Anyway, are you shocked with the list? Does your home country have any cities on the list that you're surprised or not surprised to see?

 

[Baemono]

Odessa 18 when you litteraly have war there

 

[Radical Dreamer]

"ctrl+f : poland" none. That's how it should be.

 

[Rentahamster]

Anyway, are you shocked with the list?

Not particularly. This list was made with self reported subjective data.

 

[Spokeys]

I'd really be keen to hear from a UK citizen on here on just how things are compared to say, 20 or 30 years ago over there and how it's changed.

 

[calico]

my country

 

[IDKFA]

"ctrl+f : poland" none. That's how it should be.

Which is why my wife wants to go back home and live in Jelenia Góra.

Whenever we go back to Jelenia Góra, or visit another city in Poland, like Wrocław or Warszawa, we both feel incredibly safe. Jelenia Góra is not totally crime free, but I always feel comfortable walking around that town at any time of the day and never feel on edge or in danger. I can't say the same for any UK town or City.

Honestly, as someone who has been to Poland at least once a year (minus 2020) for 19 years, I can say that Poland is like heaven on earth compared to the UK.

 

[HoodWinked]

More dangerous than parts of Ukraine that are affected by war...

Legitimately insane how these globalist organizations were able to psiop the west into civilizational self destruction. And things aren't changing anytime soon.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

 

[Artoris]

Surprised that Dublin is on the list and what is it with all these Italian cites

 

[poppabk]

Murder rate per 100000
Bradford, UK - 0.2
Memphis Tennessee - 48

 

[rm082e]

From the article:

Crime Index is based on crowdsourced perceptions of safety rather than official crime statistics

 

[calico]

If you have kids, leaving is a no-brainer. The direction of travel is so obvious at this point I would say you have a parental responsibility to get them out.

If you don't have kids, then do whatever you feel like.

 

[IDKFA]

From the article:

Good call. I added that line into the OP.

That doesn't mean the list is meaningless — but it means we should interpret it carefully. From my own experience with Birmingham (I visit family a lot there and am a blue nose), I would say that I feel less safe in Birmingham than the European cities I've visited in recent years including Rome, Barcelona, Milan and Paris.

I think perception matters. if many residents feel unsafe, that affects quality of life, people's behaviour, investment, tourism, migration decisions, even if "hard" crime rates are low. I also think this kind of survey can capture aspects that official statistics miss like threats that go unreported, public disorder, harassment, or a general environment that feels unsafe. In 2019 I had my phone robbed in Brum (pick pocket). I didn't report it to the police because what would be the point? There would be no way at all for them to track down the offender and fine my phone, so it became another unreported crime.

 

[Wildebeest]

Time for Americans to pretend that Europe has worse crime than the USA again. The post industrial parts of the UK have some pretty gnarly neglect though. Nothing that surprising compared to the USA but Germany really worked much harder to redevelop neglected regions.

 

[Hookshot]

Probably Bradfords muslims facing all that islamophobia that makes them feel unsafe.

 

[Rentahamster]

Good call.

Hey I pointed that out first lol

 

[YCoCg]

Manchester at 12? Come on it ain't that bad if you ignore Piccadilly Gardens.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Murder rate per 100000
Bradford, UK - 0.2
Memphis Tennessee - 48

Damn 0.2 thats leaving your doors unlocked at night type of safe after being in some of the bigger cities here in the US most of my life

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Murder rate per 100000
Bradford, UK - 0.2
Memphis Tennessee - 48

Yes, I read for serious crime like homicide European or UK cities are much safer than most in the US.

NYC has around 3-5x the homicide rate over London.

I imagine Chicago is a lot worse than NYC.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I'd be very disappointed if Naples wasn't in the top 10.

But Turin at 24? Didn't expect that, but thinking about it, the city has been flooded with migrants from Eastern Europe and Africa in the last 20 years and they've pretty much taken possession of entire neighborhoods. There's also a pretty strong Chinese presence, although you rarely hear about them.

 

[IDKFA]

Hey I pointed that out first lol

Shit. so you did. Sorry, buddy. I totally missed your post.

 

[rm082e]

Damn 0.2 thats leaving your doors unlocked at night type of safe after being in some of the bigger cities here in the US most of my life

Yeah, for sure. I'm from Tulsa. I just looked it up and we're at 14.3.

 

[DKehoe]

From the article:

Yeh this is just nonsense based on feelings. I imagine it's probably been made to be shared on social media, targeted at the people who are fixated on this stuff.

 

[Warspite]

Yeh this is just nonsense based on feelings. I imagine it's probably been made to be shared on social media, targeted at the people who are fixated on this stuff.

I was going to ask "What, no Glasgow?" but that explains a lot.

 

[rm082e]

I wonder how much these numbers have been influenced by the UK grooming gangs scandal. It seems like the broken trust that generated has had an outsized impact on people's perceptions?

 

[Bojji]

Yeh this is just nonsense based on feelings. I imagine it's probably been made to be shared on social media, targeted at the people who are fixated on this stuff.

Lot of cities are on both lists:

Europe: Current Crime Index by City

www.numbeo.com

 

[kevboard]

Murder rate per 100000
Bradford, UK - 0.2
Memphis Tennessee - 48

it's always funny when you compare the most dangerous cities in Europe, to just any random one in the US lol.

 

[The_hunter]

France and UK are like being on a PVP server.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I'd be very disappointed if Naples wasn't in the top 10.

But Turin at 24? Didn't expect that, but thinking about it, the city has been flooded with migrants from Eastern Europe and Africa in the last 20 years and they've pretty much taken possession of entire neighborhoods. There's also a pretty strong Chinese presence, although you rarely hear about them.

Naples has always been a dump.

 

[Minari]

I just learned Dnipro is also a city..not just one of the 2 best assault rifles in Stalker 2


Not a single german city yay.

Btw i think its absolutely WILD how all these european cities are more dangerous than 2 cities from a country that is AT WAR with russia. WILD.