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[Hitler Stole My Potato]

A friend let me borrow his copy of Cannibal Holocaust the other day while warning me at the same time that I may not be able to sit through the entire thing because it's incredibly disturbing. Afterall this was a film that was banned in several countries and the producers were forced to prove in a criminal court that the people filmed weren't actually dead. Disney it ain't.

So I tried watching it. It's basically like The Blair Witch Project, only 20 years earlier but much, much more extreme. While the killings are very realistic, and very graphic they're mixed in with real footage of the villagers killing animals (that poor turtle!) that you don't know what the hell is real and what isn't. I felt like I was watching a snuff film. Horrible, horrible stuff.

The most controversial film ever and quite possibly the most expensive DVD in existance. This is sick beyond words. Basically the plot revolves around four fascist aristocrates (the Duke, the Bishop, the Magistrate, and the President) around the end of WWII that retreat to a villa in the county of Salo along with 18 kids they've kidnapped, 4 prostitutes, their teenage daughters, and numerous guards. The aristocrates tell the 18 kids that they are to be dominated and sexually abused any way they see fit and that if they disobey that they will be punished. What follows is some of the worst, sickening, most depraved things I've ever seen. I'm not sure why the hell I forced myself to watch this. The children are forced to eat cake with nails in it, human shit, their tounges and eyes are gouged out, etc. I challenge anyone to try to watch the Circle of Shit and not get physically ill. If I could choose to erase one memory, it would be Salo.

Definately easier to watch than the previous two, this is still one fucked up film. Based on the real life serial killer Henry Lee Lucas this film manages to creep you out to the core. It's presented almost like documentary and while it isn't nearly as gorey as some other films, it's the stuff you don't see that'll really disturb you. The nihilistic sadism here is too much and makes this one hard mother to sit through.

No killings in this one (outside of a chicken), but it doesn't matter. Pink Flamingos is fucking filthy. Basically it's about a contest to see who will win the title of "The Filthiest Person Alive". It can only go down from there. This one has a guy killing and fucking a chicken, Divine (the transvestite) giving his/her son a real blow job, huge open rectums, Edith Massey molesting some eggs, people licking furniture, and the grand finale of Divine watching a dog take a shit and he/she scoops it up and eats it (in one take no less!). A classic.







I'm sure I'm fogetting some others. Anyone?

 

[Howlin' Mad]

Um...yeah. I don't even know how to follow those movies. When I read the thread the first two movies to pop into my mind for violence were Audition and The Story of Riki. Last House on the Left was pretty messed up for the time when it came out as well. If you're looking for a fucked-up movie in the "what the hell is going on" sense, you can't do much better than Naked Lunch.

 

[Pedigree Chum]

You are one sick motherfucker for even being able to watch the entirety of these films. Kill yourself now.

 

[kumanoki]

Birth of a Nation

 

[Dead]

Man Cannibal Holocaust is some sick shit for sure.

 

[mrroboto]

se7en

naked lunch

the devil's experiment

guts of a virgin

ebola syndrome

 

[Eminem]

Arlington Road
Mystic River



yeah, fuck you tim robbins

 

[UtadaBarkley]

You are one sick motherfucker for even being able to watch the entirety of these films. Kill yourself now.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol KenPark is pretty crazy.

 

[Crandle]

Ahh, I love John Waters.

You mentioned Salo and the second post brought up Takashi Miike, who's done some supremely odd stuff, but there's some exploitation movies in the same vein as Cannibal Holocaust that could challenge these movies - I Spit on Your Grave comes to mind.

The Holy Mountain and Santa Sangre are also deeply fucked-up, and at least vaguely artistic too.

Eraserhead and Brazil are similar, though more with unsettling weirdness than outright explicit content.

And there's things like the Faces of Death series, but they have a pretty shaky claim on being "movies".

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

You are one sick motherfucker for even being able to watch the entirety of these films. Kill yourself now.

Trust me, I felt completely awful after watching Salo and Cannibal Holocaust. The only reason I saw Salo was because it's THE forbidden film and a guy from my dorm had it. As far as Cannibal Holocaust is concernec, a "friend" of mine wouldn't shut up about the damn thing. Everytime I ran into him at the bar we'd start talking about films and he'd mention that he had a copy of this and that I must see because "of it's importance in shock cinema history". I honestly can't believe I ate that shit he was feeding me. Nobody has any business watching either of those 2 films.

As for Henry and Pink Flamingos, in comparison, they're not nearly as bad but they are pretty f'ed up.


Naked Lunch is a good example. I could never understand Burroughs and the film did nothing to help me in that regard. Confused the hell out of me. Lost Highway did the same.

 

[Ill Saint]

Salo is actually based on The Marquis De Sade's '120 Days of Sodom'. It may make more, uh, sense if you understand his works.

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Salo is actually based on The Marquis De Sade's '120 Days of Sodom'. It may make more, uh, sense if you understand his works.

I've read some essays on Salo after watching it, and I've come to the conclusion that I honestly don't want to understand it.

 

[Pedigree Chum]

Trust me, I felt completely awful after watching Salo and Cannibal Holocaust. The only reason I saw Salo was because it's THE forbidden film and a guy from my dorm had it. As far as Cannibal Holocaust is concernec, a "friend" of mine wouldn't shut up about the damn thing. Everytime I ran into him at the bar we'd start talking about films and he'd mention that he had a copy of this and that I must see because "of it's importance in shock cinema history". I honestly can't believe I ate that shit he was feeding me. Nobody has any business watching either of those 2 films.

As for Henry and Pink Flamingos, in comparison, they're not nearly as bad but they are pretty f'ed up.


Naked Lunch is a good example. I could never understand Burroughs and the film did nothing to help me in that regard. Confused the hell out of me. Lost Highway did the same.

Shit man, I'm happy you talked about these movies actually. Now I know what to avoid if I were to ever come across these movies.

 

[Howlin' Mad]

I've finally given up and realized that to fully take in Naked Lunch, you, yourself, need to shoot up with the bug juice. Although a nasty side effect is that your keyboard will probably turn into a giant, talking cockroach.

Oh yeah, add Ichi the Killer to the list.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Have you ever shared sex stories with a group of buddies ... and one buddy goes first and has some of the craziest, strangest sex stories that you have ever heard. Then everyone gets real quiet, because all of thier stories suck in comparison.

Thats how I feel right now.

 

[Ill Saint]

I've read some essays on Salo after watching it, and I've come to the conclusion that I honestly don't want to understand it.

That's fair enough... but De Sade's work was hugely influential in shaping a lot of modern art and cinema. He was an interesting character... worth studying if you're interested in the Arts.

 

[Dead]

Ichi the killer is tame. Ive heard so much hype about how "extreme" and unsightly it was, it was mostly comical. The only thi ng close to shocking were the rape scenes. From what ive read, Miikes Visitor Q seems a lot more fucked up.

 

[Crandle]

I've read some essays on Salo after watching it, and I've come to the conclusion that I honestly don't want to understand it.

I haven't actually seen the whole movie in full, but if it's anything like de Sade's original work the various tormentors are acting as metaphors for cruel and oppressive elements in society. The Bishop is organized religion, the Magistrate is government...etc.

Naked Lunch the movie will probably make more sense if you know anything about Burroughs' life, because it incorporates elements from that (like him accidentally shooting his wife).

 

[pnjtony]

There's a German movie called Violent Shit. There's a scene where (if memory serves) Karl The Butcher (lead) see's Jesus crucified on the cross in the woods. He then cuts Jesus open and crawls inside the jesus skin. It's pretty F'd up. There were even sequals. Sorry no box cover....the copy I saw was a bootleg aquired throw BB trading in the early 90's. I have a friend with a closet full of the most sick fuck videos ever. I'll ask about Canibal Holocaust though I'm sure he's got it.

 

[Teza]

Hmm.

Troy.

 

[Minotauro]

Here are some off the top of my head:

Both the rape sequence and the head smashing part at the beginning are just brutal. The rape scene in particular is unbelievable...I have no idea how they were able to shoot that.

The hardcore porn stock footage, the rapes, the gouging out of a real corpse's eyeball...there is a lot of gruesome shit in this one.

Someone mentioned Miike earlier but I thought this one in particular deserved mention. That part where the guy is hanging from hooks and he gets hot oil dumped on him made me physically hurt. I've heard a lot of bad (or good depending on your perspective) about Visitor Q but I haven't seen it yet.

Probably a bit tame compared to some of the stuff in this thread but the murder sequence in this is profoundly disturbing.

I'm going to cut this post short now. I have about ten more in mind but it's getting tedious searching for boxarts. I might post a few more that aren't covered if this thread goes much longer.

BTW, I really wanna see Salo as well...mainly because well, as you said, it's got such a reputation. Sadly, I don't know how I will ever see it...the Criterion DVD is nearly impossible to find and I can't imagine a video store actually renting it. Oh, well.

 

[Megafoo Chavez]

none of these movies even phased me. thats awesome

 

[DCharlie]

i always thought that Naked Lunch was semi-autobiographical.

You know Burrows actually killed his wife doing the apple trick in real life?

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

That's fair enough... but De Sade's work was hugely influential in shaping a lot of modern art and cinema. He was an interesting character... worth studying if you're interested in the Arts.

Oh I don't doubt that. It's just that Salo is so unbelievably brutal and dehumanizing that it has affected me like no other film has (though Cannibal Holocaust is emotionally scaring in its own right). I suppose this a case where I feel that the societal statement the film is making feels almost like an afterthought, or an excuse for the violent vulgarity. The director seems to revel in the twisted sado masochistic pleasures of the aristocrats. Perhaps De Sade's work is less gratutious, I don't know, but after seeing this film I really couldn't stomach investigating it more.

I'm hardly a prude, but even I have limits.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

God damn Hitler Stole My Potato and my morbid curiosity...
I found a torrent...
and I clicked on it...

And soon I will have Cannibal Holocaust.

 

[Ill Saint]

Oh I don't doubt that. It's just that Salo is so unbelievably brutal and dehumanizing that it has affected me like no other film has (though Cannibal Holocaust is emotionally scaring in its own right). I suppose this a case where I feel that the societal statement the film is making feels almost like an afterthought, or an excuse for the violent vulgarity. The director seems to revel in the twisted sado masochistic pleasures of the aristocrats. Perhaps De Sade's work is less gratutious, I don't know, but after seeing this film I really couldn't stomach investigating it more.

I'm hardly a prude, but even I have limits.

Oh, the books are detailed, that's for sure. Pasolini certainly did it justice, heh... But I think pushing the bounds of human tolerance can be a good thing. It promotes debate and (hopefully) healthy discussion. I think Salo, though it polarised people, has done exactly that, and therefore has its role in modern film well set. I'm glad I saw it, though it's punishing, and very hard to watch. It gave me a lot to think about.

Cannibal Holocaust on the other hand? Killing of animals for the sake of a film is just disgusting. I wouldn't even piss on that role of film.

 

[Litigation Manuel]

i always thought that Naked Lunch was semi-autobiographical.

You know Burrows actually killed his wife doing the apple trick in real life?

Yeah, I heard about that. Many think he was attempting to actually kill his wife, but on inspection of the gun, they found that the aim was off, and that it was most likely unintentional. Personally, I liked the book, I should see the movie.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

pretty much any of the Faces of Death movies. My uncle used to let me and my brother watch them when we were like 6 years old. Probably not the best of ideas.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

 

[Teza]

You were repulsed by 'Audition'?

 

[shuri]

I've seen most of those movies except Salo, which from his description, I dont even want to think about how vile it must be. Cannibal holocaust was one vicious piece of pure condensed evil. It's one of those movies that they make laws against.

 

[jett]

LOL, I was going to mention a couple of films, but how can I follow up to "Salo" and "Cannibal Holocaust"? :lol

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

You were repulsed by 'Audition'?

i cant outdo the salo and canibal crap....thats some extreme shit that im glad i now know to avoid..

but audition was some fucked up shit.

peace

 

[KingGondo]

Not nearly as fucked up as most of the above movies, but definitely a classic in its own right, Man Bites Dog basically follows around a serial killer in documentary style, and the filmmakers themselves become implicated in the killings. It's pretty tame until about halfway through, when there is a downright bizarre drunken rape/murder scene that takes the shock value to the next level. Overall, though, it's pretty hilarious if you can appreciate dark humor.

 

[White Man]

I own Salo on DVD. I have most of Pier Paolo Pasolini's films. It's not THAT disturbing.

I own a good number of Italian cannibal movies, as well. Cannibal Ferox is (I think) the most over-the-top disturbing. It's an unevern movie all around, but in one sequence, a pig is blown apart with shotguns. Animal cruelty is the reason you watch those movies.

Favorite PPP movie: Porcile. Pier Paolo's bizarre, double-sided parable about Nazis, love, cannibalism, and uh, weirdness. Includes a character with an affinity for pigs. Includes the greatest line in movie history:

"I killed my father, I ate human flesh, and I quiver with joy. "

 

[Shogmaster]

 

[Zilch]

Heh. A few years ago I saw a VHS copy of Salo in the foreign film section of a local movie rental store. I wonder if anyone who worked there even knew what the movie contained...

 

[Truelize]

Johnny Nemonic KILLS all these films.

 

[Jugendstil]

Funny Games
El Topo
Holy Mountain
I Stand Alone
Kids
Bully
Ken Park

All fantastic films too (with the exception of Ken Park).

 

[Triumph]

Salo isn't available through Netflix.

If they ever made a movie about Olimario's life, that would be the worst movie of all time. Ever.

 

[DrForester]

I win

 

[Saturnman]

You got me curious about some of those movies. If you want to avoid other people the displeasure of seeing them, just spoil them for us. I'm curious to know what is the point of Salo beyond the torture/abuse scenes you described.

 

[teiresias]

I didn't sleep for weeks!!

 

[Ill Saint]

I'm curious to know what is the point of Salo beyond the torture/abuse scenes you described.

You likely won't, unless you study De Sade or understand his works and the ideas behind them. It's pointless to watch it just for the sake of doing so, in my opinion, unless you're purely interested in only the shock value.

 

[Fresh Prince]

I win

Is this that Joe Coffin guy?

 

[Ill Saint]

No, but it is possibly amongst the worst films ever made.

José Mojica Marins, on the other hand, totally rocks. Coffin Joe!!

 

[deadhorse32]

Perhaps De Sade's work is less gratutious, I don't know, but after seeing this film I really couldn't stomach investigating it more.

De Sade works is worst. Do you know the etymology of the word "sadistic" ?
Yeah that's him. read more there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sade

It's just that Salo is so unbelievably brutal and dehumanizing that it has affected me like no other film

That's the goal of the movie

 

[etiolate]

American Psycho unrated, fucked up but great
Doom Generation, fucked up and horrible

 

[Docpan]

I'm not sure if some of the stuff in this movie was intended to be funny... But it wasn't. It was just REALLY fucked up.

 

[Jim Bowie]

Freddy Got Fingered is FYAD the movie. While not nearly as sick as Cannibal Holocaust, it has zero coherency, is bat-shit insane, and worth $5.50.