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Emily has indie sources and some in NoA. I'm not sure why people are trying to say she has sources in Japan though. Nikkei barely gets information out there, Nintendo internal software info has always largely been on lockdown, outside of a handful of things that have popped out just prior to official reveals. The only legitimate leak that I can think of regarding NCL software was Paper Mario Color Splash, which came out due to information from a recruiting event that was posted on 2ch. Honestly it's not even common for us to get information on software developed outside of Japan. How many times have we seen claims about Retro, Monster, etc., turn out to be false? The company has been known to be fairly compartmentalized, at least prior to their restructuring that was the case, and I'm sure it's still largely true in regards to information sharing.

I'm willing to buy into information regarding Nintendo hardware as their hardware would be in the hands of people outside of the company, but Nintendo software rumors should always be taken with a huge amount of salt.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
It is patently absurd given the timing of when that rumor was stated that we would even remotely count this as something she got right.

I really don't understand the controversy here. I personally have no problem believing that Emily converses with people who are in the know sometimes and is privy to some information the general public is not. I also have no problem stating that I don't think that she's a proper journalist who properly vets sources or conveys a degree of confidence to readers.

I don't think breaking stories is necessarily easy. There are lots of people out there that just want info. Any info is good. It doesn't necessarily need to pan out. We're starved for any information and as long as it appears to come from inside we want it. Whether it's from an executive sharing information only on condition of anonymity or a janitor that overheard someone who overheard something, if it's juicy dirt, someone out there wants to know what it is. But to be respected as a trustworthy source, you have to be able to properly contextualize this information. In general terms, why do you know this? How confident are you in this story? How did you try to verify the legitimacy of this news? As readers, it would be ideal if we had some insight into the process here in terms of how you arrived at reporting Rumor A, Rumor B, and Rumor C. Again, I'm not advocating throwing sources under the bus. But just something that indicates you aren't parroting anything you hear from different sources would be great.
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Great post.

It seems like there's a difference between a typical rumor, or knowing something about the (current or past) internal discussions about a product compared to actually having a real, solid, definitive scoop.
 
DownGrader said:
Man, some people do not even hold Emily as a human being, let alone creditable insider. I don't care what you think about her reputation or track record, calling her "an Internet doodad" and/or "just an account" is just plain mean.
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Spyder_Monkey said:
What really bugs me about this is some people's insistence that Emily Rogers is wrong and therefore must be taken down.
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Just to be clear I have no desire to encourage rudeness directed her way. I personally don't believe that she's an attention-seeking phony or anything. Some of her information is clearly credible so it's obvious that she has some insider connections. However, I also don't think that her track record establishes her as someone who only reports thoroughly vetted rumors from trusted sources. I certainly don't buy into a narrative that if Rogers is reporting it, you can take it to the bank.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Just to be clear I have no desire to encourage rudeness directed her way. I personally don't believe that she's an attention-seeking phony or anything. Some of her information is clearly credible so it's obvious that she has some insider connections. However, I also don't think that her track record establishes her as someone who only reports thoroughly vetted rumors from trusted sources. I certainly don't my into a narrative that if Rogers is reporting it, you can take it to the bank.
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Yeah you're right. I just think that people are going to take that last post of yours as "proof" that "See, Emily Rogers is not a human being. Look even mod said so."
 
1.- Q4 2016. Announcement is coming soon, this holiday season is already toast for Nintendo.
2.- Q1 2017
3.- Q4 2017
4.- New 3D Mario. Lock it in! Also Smash 4, but I don't think that counts?

e: 2 things. I think the hardware won't be ready for a March launch (and if so, they already know), hence the delay. I also think that the reveal will be a slow burn -- they need it to be, to steal back mindshare after basically being out of the game since the Wii U launched as a wet fart and the 3DS atrophied.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Just to be clear I have no desire to encourage rudeness directed her way. I personally don't believe that she's an attention-seeking phony or anything. Some of her information is clearly credible so it's obvious that she has some insider connections. However, I also don't think that her track record establishes her as someone who only reports thoroughly vetted rumors from trusted sources. I certainly don't my into a narrative that if Rogers is reporting it, you can take it to the bank.
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This is fair.

I like her, I believe the vast majority of her NX stuff, I don't think she's making shit up or out to deceive anyone, but she's not a journalist and I'm not taking anything she says at face value without corroboration from other sources.

That said, there are certain parts of the Internet (and even a few GAFfers here and there) who are weirdly obsessed with her being wrong about everything relating to the NX, as though most of it hasn't been backed up by far more reputable outlets like EG, WSJ, IGN, and MCV.
 
Instro said:
You can't play that card to prove her right. She's very clearly wrong here. Them considering at some point during development, should not somehow turn into "playable female character from multiple sources" a month before reveal.
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All that stuff she clearly posted as rumors, some were right some were wrong

What she is saying now, she is not saying as a rumor
 
Instro said:
Emily has indie sources and some in NoA. I'm not sure why people are trying to say she has sources in Japan though. Nikkei barely gets information out there, Nintendo internal software info has always largely been on lockdown, outside of a handful of things that have popped out just prior to official reveals. The only legitimate leak that I can think of regarding NCL software was Paper Mario Color Splash, which came out due to information from a recruiting event that was posted on 2ch. Honestly it's not even common for us to get information on software developed outside of Japan. How many times have we seen claims about Retro, Monster, etc., turn out to be false? The company has been known to be fairly compartmentalized, at least prior to their restructuring that was the case, and I'm sure it's still largely true in regards to information sharing.

I'm willing to buy into information regarding Nintendo hardware as their hardware would be in the hands of people outside of the company, but Nintendo software rumors should always be taken with a huge amount of salt.
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Doesn't she live there? And isn't she a stockholder? Although that pretty much means nothing, as anyone with the money can buy stocks.
 
Anyway, to get off the subject of Emily specifically, can we agree that between her, Nate, Neal, Macquarie, and it just being the last logical choice, that there is actually reason to believe the announcement is coming this week? Would it be controversial to state that this week seems to have a lot more backing it up than the previous weeks where all we had was a bunch of us sitting around with our meat in our hands saying "this week for sure"?
 
DerekOfTheDykes said:
Anyway, to get off the subject of Emily specifically, can we agree that between her, Nate, Neal, Macquarie, and it just being the last logical choice, that there is actually reason to believe the announcement is coming this week? Would it be controversial to state that this week seems to have a lot more backing it up than the previous weeks where all we had was a bunch of us sitting around with our meat in our hands saying "this week for sure"?
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There's definitely more backing it up, but absent an official announcement (or at least a report from a proper news outlet), it's probably best to just wait for the Q2 earnings release/investor briefing on the 26th given how close that is anyway. Easier said than done, though.

Cheesehead302 said:
Here's my opinion: Emily Rogers is for whatever reason despised by a ton of people (Especially on the Nintendo NX subreddit they're like ravenous dogs there) for seemingly no reason. She's gotten things correct in the past, but she's also gotten things right. Fine right? You win some and you lose some. The problem is any time she posts a rumor people act like an 8th deadly sin was created and it's just really weird to me. You've got "leakers" like HappyNintendoFan who are complete jokes yet there's some who clearly has connections with people in the industry yet for what ever reason you choose to crap on the latter? I don't get it.
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It's pretty much the rank misogyny of corners of the Internet like Reddit and 4chan, combined with the AMD/console truther brigade (HNF, SMD, PlayerEssence, etc.) desperately wanting to believe that NX is a stationary home console with performance in the range of PS4 Pro or Scorpio. Because of said misogyny, she makes a better villain than EG, IGN, WSJ, MCV, Tweaktown, Semiaccurate, LPVG, etc.
 
So, yeah, anyway we should be looking out for an announcement tomorrow if we're lucky but more than likely Wednesday? Isn't that the span the last few Directs have been announced in?
 
ggx2ac said:
Assuming you meant NoA, the Pokémon demo releases at 10am Eastern Time.

So I'm wondering if the announcement would still happen on the day.
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Why not? All attention will be on Nintendo at that time. Slap an ad for the direct on the Eshop front page when people go to download the demo.
 
ggx2ac said:
Assuming you meant NoA, the Pokémon demo releases at 10am Eastern Time.

So I'm wondering if the announcement would still happen on the day.
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I feel like if we look hard enough, we could find something every week to hold us up.

I don’t personally feel like a demo hitting the eshop is that much of an impediment to something like a tweet announcing a console reveal a few days later.
 
ggx2ac said:
Assuming you meant NoA, the Pokémon demo releases at 10am Eastern Time.

So I'm wondering if the announcement would still happen on the day.
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Tomorrow is most likely the announcement of the reveal, so people can still play their pokemon demo and be hyped for a reveal coming later this week or next week
 
Father_Brain said:
It's pretty much the rank misogyny of corners of the Internet like Reddit and 4chan, combined with the AMD/console truther brigade (HNF, SMD, PlayerEssence, etc.) desperately wanting to believe that NX is a stationary home console with performance in the range of PS4 Pro or Scorpio. Because of said misogyny, she makes a better villain than EG, IGN, WSJ, MCV, Tweaktown, Semiaccurate, LPVG, etc.
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Unfortunate. I don't actually visit those parts of the internet so I just get the knee-jerk defense that occurs on GAF every time someone tells people to hold their horses with regards to completely accepting what she says and points out that she hedges a lot, gets things sort of wrong, sort of right a lot, sometimes gets things plain wrong, and sometimes gets things right.

I say that fully believing she has sources and reports what she can gather out of them.
 
MoonFrog said:
Unfortunate. I don't actually visit those parts of the internet so I just get the knee-jerk defense that occurs on GAF every time someone tells people to hold their horses with regards to completely accepting what she says and points out that she hedges a lot, gets things sort of wrong, sort of right a lot, sometimes gets things plain wrong, and sometimes gets things right.

I say that fully believing she has sources and reports what she can gather out of them.
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I think the problem relates to that she may not have proper sources a few years ago and this made stuff up (Rare making SEA and Banjo for 3DS for example). These days, she either checks her stuff with others (NX hardware, Paper Mario), or just puts out things that are educated guesses and can never be verified (Nintendo working on Mario Maker port for NX, but may not be released).

The very specific information from her which other sources also state are pretty trustworthy. Everything's else is rather vague most of the time.
 
Mihael Mello Keehl said:
I see yall living it up in here and getting hype off some real rumors/news! Let me feel some of that!
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October 21st. #Believe :p
 
What's the latest word on the street? The detachable controllers confirmed? Dates still being speculated? I can't keep track
 
John Harker said:
What's the latest word on the street? The detachable controllers confirmed? Dates still being speculated? I can't keep track
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Current rumour is that there may be an announcement of the reveal date today but if not today very likely to be sometime this week. Full reveal will hopefully be next week.
 
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