The Official Fallout 3 thread of post-apocalyptic proportions!

soultron said:
I ran into Mr. Burke in the Megaton saloon and killed his ass after he told me he wanted to destroy Megaton. (I've already seen the mushroom cloud scene in trailers anyway.) I really liked his suit, but didn't like his attitude.

But... Did I just fuck up the game? (Remember in Oblivion, "You've killed a character important to the story and can no longer continue.")

Nope, you just eliminated one of your choices for an optional quest.
 
soultron said:
I ran into Mr. Burke in the Megaton saloon and killed his ass after he told me he wanted to destroy Megaton. (I've already seen the mushroom cloud scene in trailers anyway.) I really liked his suit, but didn't like his attitude.

But... Did I just fuck up the game? (Remember in Oblivion, "You've killed a character important to the story and can no longer continue.")

It seems that any character truly critical to the advancement of the main plot can't and won't die - they're just knocked unconscious for some period of time.
 
one thing i've noticed that i love about the game: some rooms seem to serve no "purpose," in the sense that we've come to expect every room in every game to have some little reward for our going out of our way in unlocking or finding it. some things are just there because they're there. it's something shawn discussed on the brodeo about stalker a while back (i miss that podcast), and it makes me want to give that a go very much.
 
Jswanko said:
ok, should be no problem.
Go through the back door of his bar, either pick the lock from outside or walk into the back room from the inside. Once there look inside the dresser near the computer, it'll have a password. Dont worry about remembering it just click on the computer and click on "visitors" then click your dads name. Shoult give you all the info you need, thats actualy how i did it in the first place.

I did this and got the note, but it won't give a quest or location. I just have the note in my note seciton, but nothing else to go by.
 
SpudBud said:
Does anyone know where I can find Burke?
I pissed him off and now he's sending hitmen after me. I want pay back.

my guess would be
tenpenny tower
though i'm not sure. i approached that situation a bit differently.
 
beelzebozo said:
my guess would be
tenpenny tower
though i'm not sure. i approached that situation a bit differently.
Went there and finished the
ghoul quest
but I didn't see him at all.
 
beelzebozo said:
one thing i've noticed that i love about the game: some rooms seem to serve no "purpose," in the sense that we've come to expect every room in every game to have some little reward for our going out of our way in unlocking or finding it. some things are just there because they're there. it's something shawn discussed on the brodeo about stalker a while back (i miss that podcast), and it makes me want to give that a go very much.

It was the same way in the first two Fallouts. Sometimes you'd fight your way through some entire area with tough fights and the reward at the end would be minimal. Other times, it would be something significant. That's life in a post-apoc wasteland.

I'm seeing that in Fallout 3 as well, which is nice. With some of the side quests you do, most of the reward is basically the quest itself, and what you manage to personally snag on the way there and back. I love that.

Grayditch is also a great example of what you're talking about. Lots of empty houses, but a couple hold valuable things.
 
fallout3loots.jpg


LOOTS
 
The Gamer.nl review is up, written by... me, John Henry E... err, sorry guys.

Anyway, check it here: http://www.gamer.nl/doc/48482/Fallout-3

I gave the game 10/10. Should appear on Metacritic soon as well.

Summary:

"Fallout 3 is without doubt one of the best games of the year and, in it's own way, a worthy installment of the cult franchise of postnuclear role-playing games. Bethesda takes the essential elements from the original, year old Fallout-games and succeeds in giving the fighting a revolutionary twist with the V.A.T.S.. The gameplay of Fallout 3 is perfectly executed and the Capital Wasteland offers a fantastic playground that, even after dozens of hours, still manages to stay extremely interesting. Everybody has to hide in their nuclear shelters and only leave after they completed Fallout 3."

+
Massive, open playing ground
Postapocalyptic setting is great
Very strong role-playing core
Revolutionary V.A.T.S. works perfectly
Keeps interesting even after dozens of hours

-
Flaws in polishing, especially on PS3
Main quest can stop somewhat abruptly
 
SpudBud said:
Does anyone know where I can find Burke?
I pissed him off and now he's sending hitmen after me. I want pay back.

Yeah you and me both.
The first firefight I had in Fallout 3 was with a three man hitsquad.
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
Not sure if anyone could offer some tips, but I have no idea when it comes to hacking.
The password will be a word with a certain number of spaces. You search through the code and pick out a guess, and it will tell you how many letters are in the correct spots. You get four guesses until it locks you out, but you can always quit after the third guess and boot it up again for a fresh puzzle if you're worried about failing.
 
EviLore, do you never repair your stuff or something? :lol

I'm always using duplicates of my weapons to repair, especially since I usually need the inventory space (or at least I did, before Jericho started tagging along). Still a great way to save and earn caps.
 
Hazaro said:
Oh man, I was in Megaton and I had the 5 shot revolver and I got a critical with my last bullet from 300 meters away, 11% chance, as I watched the bullet cam spin around his arm tore off and he did a half twist.

That was amazing.

Also, where can I find a Steam Gauge Assembly? I want to finish my rail launcher.

I've found like 5 of them, and I'm only level 6 and still doing Megaton and area stuff. I just sell them or leave them, since they have such a poor VAL/WG ratio. I knew all that random junk had a purpose...

I think there was one in the Super Duper Mart.
 
Cornballer said:
The password will be a word with a certain number of spaces. You search through the code and pick out a guess, and it will tell you how many letters are in the correct spots. You get four guesses until it locks you out, but you can always quit after the third guess and boot it up again for a fresh puzzle if you're worried about failing.

Example:

Real password is "ROOT"

You guess RICE and it says RICE = 1/4 correct
You guess TORN and it says TORN = 3/4 correct

since neither RICE nor TORN have any of the same letters, 1 of RICE and 3 of TORN letters will be in the real password.

It's a lot of logic and guessing, just save before you try.
 
Where do you store loot?

In my penthouse suite, as pictured. Normally I keep my weapons in the footlocker there at the top of the screen, but I took 'em out for the screenshot.

Zeliard said:
EviLore, do you never repair your stuff or something? :lol

I'm always using duplicates of my weapons to repair, especially since I usually need the inventory space (or at least I did, before Jericho started tagging along). Still a great way to save and earn caps.

I use repair a lot actually. That's what's left over :D. When my repair skill gets near 100 (in a level or two) I'll repair a lot of those and then sell them, to get the most value possible.
 
Ysiadmihi said:
Sorry if this has been asked but can you continue after you complete the main story? I can't find a way to do it.

You can't. Try making a new character or loading an old save. New character is best, because you can play it differently.
 
Zeliard said:
I've had some serious wow moments during VATS with the right mix of weapons, targetting and camera angles. My character has at times looked like the coolest fucker on the face of the planet as he cocks his rifle and shoots some mutant's leg off. Very cinematic.

I'm actually holding off on getting Bloody Mess since I don't want everyone to basically just blow up when I shoot them. I'm enjoying the physics at play.
My favorite scene was firing at a super-mutant with my laser pistol from across a river - following the laser blast in slow-mo as it connected with his body, and he started to glow from the inside out, then exploded in an array of fireworks.

Afterward I went to search/loot his corpse and couldn't find it. I spent a few minutes wandering around till I found an 'Ash Pile'. I had completely disentigrated him - marvelous! :lol
 
Zzoram said:
You can't. Try making a new character or loading an old save. New character is best, because you can play it differently.

That's too bad. I was hoping there would be some item reward for completing the main game like Oblivion.
 
soultron said:
(Remember in Oblivion, "You've killed a character important to the story and can no longer continue.")

That was in Morrowind. In Oblivion, you couldn't kill important characters until after they had served their usefulness.
 
Koomaster said:
My favorite scene was firing at a super-mutant with my laser pistol from across a river - following the laser blast in slow-mo as it connected with his body, and he started to glow from the inside out, then exploded in an array of fireworks.

Afterward I went to search/loot his corpse and couldn't find it. I spent a few minutes wandering around till I found an 'Ash Pile'. I had completely disentigrated him - marvelous! :lol

Yup, last night, when my game was still working fine, I had a great time with VATS.

Some raider was charging me with his knife and I decided to put a bunch of assault rifle rounds into his knife arm. I ended up blowing off his entire arm, killing him in slow motion. As his body crumpled to the ground, the stump out of his body was squirting blood. Crazy.

I also shot some guy in the arm outside the grocery store, and he freaked out and ran away. I chased him down and clocked him with a baseball bat in slow motion.

Awesome.
 
Zzoram said:
Example:

Real password is "ROOT"

You guess RICE and it says RICE = 1/4 correct
You guess TORN and it says TORN = 3/4 correct

since neither RICE nor TORN have any of the same letters, 1 of RICE and 3 of TORN letters will be in the real password.

It's a lot of logic and guessing, just save before you try.
Actually I think your example is not completely correct. The way I understand it is that the letter AND position of the letter have to be correct.

So in your example it would be like this...
Password = ROOT
You guess RICE and it says RICE = 1/4 correct
You guess TORN and it says TORN = 1/4 correct
 
This game is incredible.

My main gripe is that they didn't improve the dialouge system at all in terms of look/feel. Give me some god damn camera angles or something! It feels way too much like oblivion in that regard.


Also, they really need to hire some new modelers/character designers. Yuck.
 
chespace said:
Yup, last night, when my game was still working fine, I had a great time with VATS.

Some raider was charging me with his knife and I decided to put a bunch of assault rifle rounds into his knife arm. I ended up blowing off his entire arm, killing him in slow motion. As his body crumpled to the ground, the stump out of his body was squirting blood. Crazy.

I also shot some guy in the arm outside the grocery store, and he freaked out and ran away. I chased him down and clocked him with a baseball bat in slow motion.

Awesome.

I'm suprised at how Not Old VATS get. They are so awesome.
 
RattleHead_ said:
Actually I think your example is not completely correct. The way I understand it is that the letter AND position of the letter have to be correct.

So in your example it would be like this...
Password = ROOT
You guess RICE and it says RICE = 1/4 correct
You guess TORN and it says TORN = 1/4 correct

Position of letter has to be the same too? That's good to know :lol
 
Pellham said:
That was in Morrowind. In Oblivion, you couldn't kill important characters until after they had served their usefulness.

Unfortunately they could die before serving their usefulness though.

I couldn't complete the Daedric quests because some bitch in some castle decided to go on a stroll and get killed. Man did I wait a long time for her to come to her dinner party. :(
 
chespace said:
Yup, last night, when my game was still working fine, I had a great time with VATS.

Some raider was charging me with his knife and I decided to put a bunch of assault rifle rounds into his knife arm. I ended up blowing off his entire arm, killing him in slow motion. As his body crumpled to the ground, the stump out of his body was squirting blood. Crazy.

I also shot some guy in the arm outside the grocery store, and he freaked out and ran away. I chased him down and clocked him with a baseball bat in slow motion.

Awesome.

it's also double awesome hearing the slow-motion screams. Cracks me up every time. I think I ate too many paint-chips as a kid or something to get this much amusement out of that. :lol
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
I'm suprised at how Not Old VATS get. They are so awesome.

I shot someone in the foot. When he died, he was propelled sideways at about 150km/h, right into a building. I was all "WTF?". :lol
 
Does it really matter if
the guy being held in the box in "Paradise Hills" makes it out alive? I got the two boys and Penny out, but the other guy got shot dead when he ran for it. Mezzing "Forty" and then watching him get gunned down by everyone else was hilarious, easiest way I could think of to get the key since pick pocketing didn't work.

Up to
Vault 87 Test Lab
, game keeps getting better.
 
EviLore said:
[ img ]http://www.abjecthubris.com/images/fallout3loots.jpg[ /img ]

LOOTS

I have to admit, I'm a little jealous. It seems it was worth the 9000 snail-paced steps carrying 700 lbs to hoard this loot. :lol

EviLore said:
I use repair a lot actually. That's what's left over :D. When my repair skill gets near 100 (in a level or two) I'll repair a lot of those and then sell them, to get the most value possible.

Did you choose repair as one of your main skills? What other skills did you focus on?
 
TheJollyCorner said:
it's also double awesome hearing the slow-motion screams. Cracks me up every time. I think I ate too many paint-chips as a kid or something to get this much amusement out of that. :lol

Yeah, the way they modulate sound during VATS is sweet. Like those cinematic over the top moments when the protagonist is all, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" ... BOOM.

I was just watching a coworker playing and he had the bloody mess perk. Not sure if I like the fact that people just combust into a red mist and get complete dismembered. Feels less visceral to me somehow. Does it happen every time?
 
chespace said:
Yeah, the way they modulate sound during VATS is sweet. Like those cinematic over the top moments when the protagonist is all, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" ... BOOM.

I was just watching a coworker playing and he had the bloody mess perk. Not sure if I like the fact that people just combust into a red mist and get complete dismembered. Feels less visceral to me somehow. Does it happen every time?

Not every time, seems to be like 50% though.

I picked up Mysterious Stranger last night and so far he hasn't shown up. I find myself getting into fights on purpose just to see him.
 
chespace said:
Yeah, the way they modulate sound during VATS is sweet. Like those cinematic over the top moments when the protagonist is all, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" ... BOOM.

I was just watching a coworker playing and he had the bloody mess perk. Not sure if I like the fact that people just combust into a red mist and get complete dismembered. Feels less visceral to me somehow. Does it happen every time?

Not every time. Larger kills still fall pretty much intact. But the bloody mess perk does get annoying when you blast a group of raiders, and all their pieces mix like bath tub full of chili.
 
chespace said:
Yeah, the way they modulate sound during VATS is sweet. Like those cinematic over the top moments when the protagonist is all, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" ... BOOM.

I was just watching a coworker playing and he had the bloody mess perk. Not sure if I like the fact that people just combust into a red mist and get complete dismembered. Feels less visceral to me somehow. Does it happen every time?

I think so, that's why I'm staying away from it.

Also awesome during VATS are those moments where it basically tells you you're about to hit a critical shot by zooming in on your character and having this crazy lighting effect. Those are usually followed by a slow-mo camera trailing of the bullet into its target. Too cool.
 
chespace said:
Yeah, the way they modulate sound during VATS is sweet. Like those cinematic over the top moments when the protagonist is all, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" ... BOOM.

I was just watching a coworker playing and he had the bloody mess perk. Not sure if I like the fact that people just combust into a red mist and get complete dismembered. Feels less visceral to me somehow. Does it happen every time?
Bloody Mess is good if you don't primarily use weapons like shotguns or explosives. With my Unarmed focused character I just punch people's heads off, and only half the time.
 
Zzoram said:
Position of letter has to be the same too? That's good to know :lol
Yeah, position of the word is the key. It's telling you that 1 out of 7 letters is in the right spot for instance.

For the hacking, it's easiest just to sort of look through the list first and see if there are any common sets. You will often get rhyming words like Walking, Talking, Waiting, Pushing, Rushing. Then Leaders, Feeders, Readers, Headers. Then a bunch of other unrelated things like Orleans, Cochise, Closely, Turtles.

So it's easy to start with one of the sets and pick a word, like Pushing. If it tells me that 3/7 of the letters are in the correct place, then I know that the password will be ending in ING more than likely. If I get ANY number less than 3/7 - then I can eliminate ALL the words ending in ING, and move on to the next set.

So I pick say Headers. If the password is in that set, I should get AT LEAST 4/7 letters in the correct spot because that set ends in 'DERS'

If I get say 6/7 from picking Headers, then I can eliminate Feeders. Comparing Feeders to Headers, only 5/7 letters match up. And I know the password would match Headers by 6/7 letters.

The only ones left are Leaders and Readers. Neither guess is better than the other one at this point, not much more eliminating I can do, so I just pick one randomly.

It doesn't matter, because I have gone from Pushing -> Headers, only using up 2 of my guesses. And with only 2 more words left that it could possibly be, doesn't matter which I chose since I'll be able to select them both. Password Got!
 
LaserBuddha said:
Unfortunately they could die before serving their usefulness though.

I couldn't complete the Daedric quests because some bitch in some castle decided to go on a stroll and get killed. Man did I wait a long time for her to come to her dinner party. :(
I know exactly which one you mean since I had the same problem. Apparently there is a quest she is involved in earlier. She is marked essential (unkillable) untill you complete that quest, then that marker gets removed and she can die anytime in the wilderness.

I waited around for her to get to the party for FOREVER. Then I went online to see if I could find out where she was and found out she travelled the countryside between two cities all the time. So I actually set out on foot trying to hunt her down along the paths between these two cities which are of course on nearly opposite sides of the map. Went back online and found out about her essential marker being removed after that one quest and how she could die before you do the daedric quest. Made me very cross since I spent hours trying to track her down. >:(

TheJollyCorner said:
it's also double awesome hearing the slow-motion screams. Cracks me up every time. I think I ate too many paint-chips as a kid or something to get this much amusement out of that. :lol
Haha, me as well. I love throwing frag grenades in VATS and hearing; "Oh Shit, Run Away!!!!!!" played in super slow-mo. Then watching as people get blown sky-high. Never. Gets. Old! :lol
 
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