Ramirez said:I forgot to mention that those pics that surfaced reminded me of something you'd see in a XBLA title as far art style. I hope I'm wrong though, could care less about any XBLA game.![]()
What pics?
Ramirez said:I forgot to mention that those pics that surfaced reminded me of something you'd see in a XBLA title as far art style. I hope I'm wrong though, could care less about any XBLA game.![]()
Yes. What pics?chedabob said:What pics?
Cocopjojo said:So has anyone been following this thread over at B.net?
Apparently, there is a new "member rank" or whatever on the forums called "Superintendent." All of the profiles that belong to it don't have names, just a collection of "|||||||||"s and a shared profile picture that differs with the eyes.
It looks like six have been discovered so far.
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http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?uid=4742702
http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?uid=4742737
http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?uid=4742721
http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?uid=4742715
http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?uid=4742747
http://www.bungie.net/Account/profile.aspx?uid=4742730
And one that doesn't have the similiar profile picture, but has the same motto as the rest:
http://www.bungie.net/Account/profile.aspx?uid=4742753
Their profiles all say "Keep it clean!"
One of them has three forum posts.
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In addition to that, May 16's Weekly Update had a picture of Frank in which he was wearing a shirt that has one of the profile pictures on it; the profile picture of the one that has the three forum posts.
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Also, a Bungie webcam picture shows a sign on the wall that has the same picture.
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Shake Appeal said:Worst case scenario: Bungie's top secret new project is an XBLA game where you play Penitent Tangent as a 'janitor' who bounces on the heads of escaping Flood to pop them. At the end of every level you hit a switch to deactivate a light bridge on which a Gravemind is sitting, only to be told that the Reclaimer is on another Halo.
You and me both brother. Workin' with a hangover is tough though.urk said:headache is eased by sweet ass update
Blueblur1 said:Which is what I doing right now at my job, a bank.
Yeah, dude.urk said:No shit? Then we have a second thing in common. Are you a teller too?
Blueblur1 said:Yeah, dude.
Dude, I don't post on GAf that much during work cuz my boss is on my ass and I gotsa to count my cash correctly!urk said:Awesome. Make sure you keep your drawer balanced, yo!
Blueblur1 said:Dude, I don't post on GAf that much during work cuz my boss is on my ass and I gotsa to count my cash correctly!
I just got a bonus yesterday, too! Dude, are you like spying on me through our drive through window or what?urk said:Not a penny less. Not a penny more. Gotta get that bonus!
Ramirez said:I'm going to watch that Pit game every time I log on to Halo, it is my Rocky montage.
DancingJesus said:
MIKE! Where is it.Metroidvania said:....Do the legendary maps on legendary brawl have filters added?
If so, I should try it, I think.
Nutter said:MIKE! Where is it.![]()
Metroidvania said:....Do the legendary maps on legendary brawl have filters added?
If so, I should try it, I think.
I don't doubt that some knowledge from the Forerunners was passed down. Whether that refers to the items disclosed during the Iris ARG's 'Society of the Ancients' or whether there's something else, I can't say.joey_z said:While we got plenty of answers on the forerunners in the last part of the trilogy, we never found out why the monitor advises Master Chief to wear a level 12 suit at the Library in C.E. Surely it is too big of a coincidence for the forerunners to have named their combat suits the same as the Spartan programme and the fact that guilty spark knows John's suit is a mark VI must mean that the Forerunners had identical suits.
Begs the question: Before the humans were transported back to Earth from the Ark, were they embedded with some forerunner knowledge that would manifest itself later on in the cycle of mankind? Is that why man goes on to create the same suit the forerunners wore because they knew it was this kind of suit that would lead to the salvation of man from forerunner? Do we have dormant knowledge lying in our mind from the forerunner still?
Mr Vociferous said:That one. No one knows. You could say it's a hole in the fiction I suppose, but I'd guess that there are things about Delta Halo that we still don't know about. Why was the Gravemind fully formed hours presumably after the UNSC and Covenant touched down? How did the Flood get released from Delta Halo to form a compound mind? Great questions to which we unfortunately have no answers. I think the above bolded line says a lot though. Someone showed up before Regret's fleet. How did Regret know how to get to Delta Halo in the first place? Another random jump bring a space craft to a separate Halo ring? Seems unlikely.
LAUGHTREY said:Also, the part about retaining genetic memory makes sense, but even if every flood spore on delta halo combined would that make enough for a gravemind? Did someone else stumble on the halo or what? I know the forerunners wouldn't put enough flood on one ring for it to make a gravemind, they aren't that stupid.
Obviously entitling this as 'smuggler' seems to reference the map discussed last week. It seems possible that the map in question is part of the ship which escaped containment from Installation 05 and crashed into Mombasa - presumably the Gravemind's first attempt to gain access to the Ark. It could also be part of High Charity or the Ark which has been contaminated by the Flood.BWU said:REPORT: CONTAINMENT FAILURE
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility; [delta site] has experienced catastrophic specimen containment failure. All apertures into facility will be locked until further notice. Atmosphere evacuation and [reduction of ambient temperature] protocols have already been enacted. Request maintenance and security detail [at earliest opportunity]. [8 minutes] elapsed since initial containment failure.
REPORT: CONTAINMENT FAILURE
Waiting for maintenance and security detail. [32 minutes, 9 seconds] elapsed since request.
REPORT: CONTAINMENT FAILURE
Still waiting for maintenance and security detail. [24 hours] elapsed since request.
REPORT: SECURITY BREACH
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility; [delta site] has experienced a security breach via emergency [slip stream space] transportation conduits. Emergency [slip stream space] transportation conduits have been placed in recursive mode to contain unauthorized hostile lifeforms. Request emergency security detail. Still waiting for primary maintenance and security detail. [2512332 hours, 14 minutes, 6 seconds]elapsed since initial request.
REPORT: DERELICTION OF DUTY
2401 [PENITENT TANGENT] has been lax in the areas of maintenance and security.
joey_z said:I know I'm a bit late in this thread. I've read all of Voc's articles on the Halo 3 terminals (which are now akin to a Halo Bible for the fans).
While we got plenty of answers on the forerunners in the last part of the trilogy, we never found out why the monitor advises Master Chief to wear a level 12 suit at the Library in C.E. Surely it is too big of a coincidence for the forerunners to have named their combat suits the same as the Spartan programme and the fact that guilty spark knows John's suit is a mark VI must mean that the Forerunners had identical suits.
Begs the question: Before the humans were transported back to Earth from the Ark, were they embedded with some forerunner knowledge that would manifest itself later on in the cycle of mankind? Is that why man goes on to create the same suit the forerunners wore because they knew it was this kind of suit that would lead to the salvation of man from forerunner? Do we have dormant knowledge lying in our mind from the forerunner still?
Or
And this one is very far fetched: Is time travelling involved? Maybe the chief meets Guilty Spark by going to the past wearing a mark 12 suit in one of the sequels before Halo C.E Master Chief meets him. This would allow Bungie to remake some key parts in the Halo trilogy in next gen technology and force the chief to rush through it all in the span of a stage. Imagine arriving on the first Halo all over again, then one second fighting on the Silent Cartographer and then next thing you know you're on High Charity trying to run the fuck away. Could be fun but time travelling would piss off so so so many people.
In any case I really wish this was addressed (unless it was and I am t0tal noob).
Looking at the BWU, wouldnt it mean that no outside presence was at delta halo when the outbreak happened? I mean it clearly states when the Covenant arrive. (and that is a very long time after the outbreak. Seems to me, someone was on Delta halo before we arrived(covenant/humans) and when the outbreak happened they left (or supposedly they left after Peninant Tangent failed to control the outbreak) (and looking at the time pass until the covenant arrive, the gravemind formed)Voc's Awesome Post
It's definitely something that was already on 05, since it's been making reports for 284 years.Mr Vociferous said:For me, there are several points of interest and questions I have dealing with that original question: How did the Gravemind/Flood escape containment...
1) Who is writing this report? An automated system on the installation? Another AI construct? The Archive construct on the Ark? Who is keeping tabs on Tangent here?
Wouldn't it be safe to assume he became derelict whenever the gravemind got a hold of him? He didn't seem to be any more rampant than 343, if either of them were rampant at all. At least not enough to want to help the flood, he did say he wanted to fire the ring.2) When did Tangent become derelict? When we first meet him in the clutches of the parasite, we know that he's not in good condition, but for the most part we believed that he had functioned as expected. The Bestiarum caveat seems to indicate that he was reliable here too (ignore the red highlight):
According to the WWU, there have been problems on Delta for hundreds of years, so it's safe to assume the flood got out long before they did on 04.3) Why is there no reference to an interloper? On Installation 04, we clearly see that the Covenant unwittingly released the Flood. We have no such understanding on Installation 05, where the Flood has been released for some time - long enough for a compound mind to be formed. Did the Flood escape on their own? Did Tangent release them in a state of rampancy - perhaps just when the Covenant and humans arrived? I've always felt as though the Covenant had found the ring earlier, near the time they found Installation 04 and they were again the source of this release, but perhaps there was someone else on the installation or maybe 'delta site' had live specimens instead of dormant infection forms?
I've always felt that the temperature being lowered had something to do with the installation affecting the infestation, but I had long discarded that idea since the temperature seemed to have no effect on the Flood nor was every low-temperature segment of the installations (04, 05 and the Ark) directly related to containment/quarantine. It appears, however, that I was wrong. Perhaps the temperature slows down the rate of growth, curtailing the extent of the infestation to some degree.
Who knows...
/nerd rant
The fact that he glows red could indicate a state of rampancy. I mean, what color did Spark glow when he turned on the Chief?Mr Vociferous said:Did Tangent release them in a state of rampancy - perhaps just when the Covenant and humans arrived?
But that was when he was in the clutches of the Gravemind.Dax01 said:The fact that he glows red could indicate a state of rampancy. I mean, what color did Spark glow when he turned on the Chief?
Oh, so Gravemind was already on Delta Halo.. I thought it formed into itself over time. But that opens up the possibility that Gravemind somehow made Penitent Tangent Go rampant and open up the gates for the Flood to be released. As far as the person/thing keeping tabs on Tangent, maybe it was an A.I?Cocopjojo said:Voc, I don't think that the sender of the message is anyone of importance. It's probably just an automated system acknowledging the fact that its caretaker hasn't responded to its calls for maintenance.
And yeah, I have wondered for a while, too, how the Flood escaped containment at Installation 05. Obviously, something happened with Penitent Tangent.
Also, the "LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility" confirms that Delta Halo was, indeed, a containment facility for the Gravemind, since LF.Xx.3273 is the tag used by the Gravemind, when he speaks to Mendicant Bias, throughout the Terminals.
Yeah, the fact that it's called the "LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility" makes it seem as though it was home to the original Gravemind. And if the Gravemind could talk Mendicant Bias into turning against his creators, then it's likely that, if he was able to open communications with 2401, then he'd be able to turn it against its directives; or at least drive it insane.Nutter said:Oh, so Gravemind was already on Delta Halo.. I thought it formed into itself over time. But that opens up the possibility that Gravemind somehow made Penitent Tangent Go rampant and open up the gates for the Flood to be released.
DancingJesus said:So earlier today I was bored and decided to create my first original gametype and map in forge.
I came up with something that I thought was pretty cool.
Welcome Air Trap
Where: Sandtrap Custom Variant
What: A Territories style game with 4 different points.
Offensive players must use aircraft vehicles to capture points in mid-air.
Defensive players will be given a Gaus Warthog as well as rockets and a spartan laser to take down air ships.
When: Very soon, currently working on balancing.
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This picture can give you guys a basic idea of what it's like. (Not Final.)
Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Let me know what you think.
I'm leaning towards it being insane, because the way 2401 was talking when you get to meet him along with the Gravemind. He was still talking about how to contain the outbreak.Cocopjojo said:Yeah, the fact that it's called the "LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility" makes it seem as though it was home to the original Gravemind. And if the Gravemind could talk Mendicant Bias into turning against his creators, then it's likely that, if he was able to open communications with 2401, then he'd be able to turn it against its directives; or at least drive it insane.
It'd certainly be ironic if he let them go because of some crazy idea to make any suitable reclaimers panic enough to activate the rings.Nutter said:I'm leaning towards it being insane, because the way 2401 was talking when you get to meet him along with the Gravemind. He was still talking about how to contain the outbreak.
So Gravemind must have made him insane enough to open the gates.
Maybe the Gravemind made 2401 realise he was all alone, and he could get the forerunner's to come back to Delta halo if he released the flood.Botolf said:It'd certainly be ironic if he let them go because of some crazy idea to make any suitable reclaimers panic enough to activate the rings.No more ironic than the Flood forgoing eating you in order to stop Truth, though.
Can you say for sure he wasn't that color before he was caught by the Gravemind? I find it hard to believe that the fact that Spark turned red when he turned on the Chief is just a mere coincidence.Nutter said:But that was when he was in the clutches of the Gravemind.
Shafto said:The one glaring hole in the fiction for me is why there are Flood contained on any of the Halos. We can guess it was for studying, but surely such a dangerous parasite, by the time the arrays were fired, should have been eradicated. The Forerunners were prepared to destroy entire star systsems to contain it, surely their own reasearch would have been worth destroying too.
Stinkles to the rescue!Stinkles said:Same reason epidemiologists keep Smallpox samples in jars, perhaps? Better to know a thing and control it, than know nothing when it reappears.
Stinkles said:Same reason epidemiologists keep Smallpox samples in jars, perhaps? Better to know a thing and control it, than know nothing when it reappears.
There is the possibility that LF.Xx.3273 denotes the Flood as a species (Lifeform 3273?) and not the conglomerate entity that is Gravemind, in which case there is a "LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility" on every Halo we have visited. It seems unlikely that the Forerunners would have trapped a Gravemind somehow... unless they grew one.Cocopjojo said:Yeah, the fact that it's called the "LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility" makes it seem as though it was home to the original Gravemind.
Doesn't necessarily indicate Rampancy in either case; Monitors could just turn red under extreme duress or when hostile.Dax01 said:Can you say for sure he wasn't that color before he was caught by the Gravemind? I find it hard to believe that the fact that Spark turned red when he turned on the Chief is just a mere coincidence.
Makes sense. Especially since the Flood are of "extra-galactic origin." So, even if the Forerunners were to have wiped out all Flood in our galaxy, they could still send more from wherever they came from. This is even more incentive to keep some alive for study.Stinkles said:Same reason epidemiologists keep Smallpox samples in jars, perhaps? Better to know a thing and control it, than know nothing when it reappears.
Cocopjojo said:Makes sense. Especially since the Flood are of "extra-galactic origin." So, even if the Forerunners were to have wiped out all Flood in our galaxy, they could still send more from wherever they came from. This is even more incentive to keep some alive for study.
True, but I still think there is a connection.Shake Appeal said:Doesn't necessarily indicate Rampancy in either case; Monitors could just turn red under extreme duress or when hostile.