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Y2Kev said:
Minigore is fucking fun! Price/value is perfect IMO and the controls are flawless.
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I'm w/ Kev on this one. Minigore is great. I recommend always play on expert mode. Controls are great. People bitch aobut the lack of additional levels... It was $0.99!!! AND additional episodes are on the way.

If you want a DS shooter w tons of content off the bat then go in the corner and play some Isotope.
 
Tenkei said:
It's the same case with Rogers/Fido in Canada. Getting a game under the 10MB limit to attract the impulse buyers is proving somewhat of a challenge.
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Wait, so what you're saying is that if you're using your data plan while shopping, you can't download anything more than 10mb? You basically have to be on wifi?

I didn't know that there was a limit!

Gotta make sure the games we make are less than 10mb then...
 
radiantdreamer said:
Gotta make sure the games we make are less than 10mb then...
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This is an over-rated idea imo. Lots of games crack the top ten that are above that size limit. The #1 factor for a game selling are brand power, quality, name recognition, ease of use, price, and uniqueness. I think arguably all those factors are more important than getting under the 10mb limit.
 
bryehn said:
So basically, you'll never play any new games. Good for you, enjoy your $200 paper weight.
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I was just playing Doom Resurrection, DownToZero, Electric Box, Mevo & the Groove Riders, Minigore, Vanguard Storm, Bookworm, Radial 50, Knights Onrush, Zenonia etc... all with 2.0 'Paperweight'.
 
billy.sea said:
I was just playing Doom Resurrection, DownToZero, Electric Box, Mevo & the Groove Riders, Minigore, Vanguard Storm, Bookworm, Radial 50, Knights Onrush, Zenonia etc... all with 2.0 'Paperweight'.
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Well duh, some games play on 2.0, but on a go-forward basis fewer and fewer games (possibly eventually none) will work and stubbornly refusing to pay $10 will make you miss out on hundreds of dollars of great content, and that was pretty clearly the point being made.
 
Stoney Mason said:
This is an over-rated idea imo. Lots of games crack the top ten that are above that size limit. The #1 factor for a game selling are brand power, quality, name recognition, ease of use, and uniqueness. I think arguably all those factors are more important than getting under the 10mb limit.
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It's certainly something to be aware of if you're around the 10mb mark. I wanted to buy Peggle yesterday, but it's 10.2MB. Sale missed because of 200kb of data.
 
Y2Kev said:
Minigore is fucking fun! Price/value is perfect IMO and the controls are flawless.
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I also think the game controls really well. The gun-play feels just right, IMO. I look forward to their expanded content, if they can actually deliver on some real levels, different enemies, new weapons & bosses, they could have an awesome game on their hands. Who knows, though. They might just change the ground color to white, call it a "snow" level, give the dude a Mountain Dew branded shirt and call it an "Extreme" update. Time will tell...

After a morning of boring work, time for some DOOM!
 
Also more licensing/trademark ROFLs:

http://alien-abuse.com/

Remember that ass old PC game "Abuse" by Crack.com? They went bust and released the game into the public domain.

Eurocenter ported and modified the game and released it for the iPhone as "Alien Abuse".

Yesterday, Apple pulled it from the App Store, and lo and behold, an official "Abuse" port was released for the iPhone.

ddt (Dave Taylor) on TouchArcade forums
Long story short, Eurocenter did not have the right to use the sound effects, registered levels (levels 5 and up), or the Abuse trademark in their game "Alien Abuse".

I am the producer of the original Abuse game, and it has been very distressing to me and to the original developers of the game to watch them do this.
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bomber from Eurocenter (devs of Alien Abuse)
Please stop those lies. We have contacted you several times and you were not able to show us any legal documents that you own the rights on the content or name. We are fully aware of the crack.com situation which has released the game as public domain and that went backrupt in 98. It's really a shame that you come now more than 10 years after that and suddenly feel bad about releasing the game as public domain and try to make us look like thieves.
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Tempy said:
Also more licensing/trademark ROFLs:

http://alien-abuse.com/

Remember that ass old PC game "Abuse" by Crack.com? They went bust and released the game into the public domain.

Eurocenter ported and modified the game and released it for the iPhone as "Alien Abuse".

Yesterday, Apple pulled it from the App Store, and lo and behold, an official "Abuse" port was released for the iPhone.

ddt (Dave Taylor) on TouchArcade forums


bomber from Eurocenter (devs of Alien Abuse)
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There's a crazy spat goint on over at Touch Arcade:

Stephane said:
I am Stephane the manager of Eurocenter.

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Originally Posted by ddt
We never owned the copyrights to the sound effects. Those were always Bobby Prince's, and we licensed them for Abuse for a small percentage of the revenues. Bobby, who is the sweetest guy you'll ever meet in the game industry, had to submit an affidavit to Apple to get them to take this seriously.

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Originally Posted by Stephane
The sound effect were included in the shareware data and the press release from crack.com is saying that the shareware data are public domain, so the sound effect are public domain also:

http://web.archive.org/web/199712101...ss/press8.html

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Originally Posted by ddt
The fRaBs package included the sound effects files erroneously. We frankly never noticed, because no one had the gall to violate our copyrights before. The open source community was always very careful to ask for permission.

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Originally Posted by Stephane
The sound effect were included in all port of abuse, I have never seen any port of abuse without the sound effects. Abuse/sounds files are included in thousand of CD and free/commercial compilation and most Linux distribution.

The fRaBS site was even hosted on the official crack.com site and supported by the main abuse programmer Jonathan Clark.

But this sound effect story is just a reason to get Alien Abuse removed from appstore, as soon as we have been aware of this problem we have remade all sounds effects and submitted an update to Apple (in April), but you have continued to say to Apple that we were using your sounds effect! What a fair person !

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Originally Posted by ddt
The trademark registration did lapse with the US PTO, because we didn't submit a required update at the 6 year mark. It was certainly an oversight, but our trademark rights did not lapse with it. That's now how trademark law works. We re-applied for registration when we discovered what Eurocenter was doing.

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Originally Posted by Stephane
The Trademark registration was owned by crack.com and not by you, you always speak about "We" but who are the others? The new trademark is only owned by YOU and I have never heard about anyone else?

I don't known about American Law but in Europe taking properties owned by a bankrupted company for personal use is a crime and send you directly to jail.

I will not be surprise that Jonathan Clark is just ashamed to get involved in such story, he is an intelligent and successful guy and don't need to get money such way.

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Originally Posted by ddt
Eurocenter did indeed approach us before release asking to use the name Abuse. Jonathan forwarded that letter to me, and I was too busy prepping for GDC to give it my full attention, but Eurocenter didn't wait. He just released the game and named it Alien Abuse.

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Originally Posted by Stephane
Perhaps you can explain to us why you were preparing GDC because I have still an Email from you saying you come to GDC from LA to see Eurocenter.

Like someone has said previously in the thread, you were just waiting carefully our release to jump on us and take the code and money.

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The attourney I came with was Jim Charne, one of the most respected IP lawyers in the game industry, and the meeting was indeed surreal, also one of the worst I've ever experienced. Eurocenter Director Stephane Portha attempted to lecture Jim on how IP law works, and he felt that he had no obligation to negotiate with us, claiming that it was "abandonware" and that he had rights because porting it was "hard to do".

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Originally Posted by Stephane
I agree with you Jim Charne looks like a fair person and that's probably the reason he decided quickly to leave the meeting saying you don't need him.

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Originally Posted by ddt
The whole experience has been incredibly distressing. I really appreciate those of you who are supporting us by repurchasing the game.

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Originally Posted by Stephane
If at least you will have put originality and time to make this port it will have been worth repurchasing, but Abuse Classic has just copied Alien Abuse layout and not included any original content and didn't even bother using opengl to achieve acceptable frame rates.
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I don't think an internet forum is the right way of going about all this...
 
Vending Machine Champ - Adult Swim: on sale for $1

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Dropship - Ngmoco: on sale for free

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I know Dave personally (RE: Abuse co-creator) and he's definitely one of the good guys in the biz.

I think there's more to this tale that will come out.

Additionally, I believe 'Stephane's version' of Abuse lacks certain levels from the original.
 
lawblob said:
Dropship - Ngmoco: on sale for free

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Love Dropship. One of the more difficult shooters but once you get use to the difficulty curve quite enjoyable. Controls quite well for the concept.

I also quite like Ngmoco policy of retiring some of their games and making them free. I have a lot of goodwill towards them as a dev.
 
TheExodu5 said:
It's certainly something to be aware of if you're around the 10mb mark. I wanted to buy Peggle yesterday, but it's 10.2MB. Sale missed because of 200kb of data.
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I'm glad I got 3G Unrestrictor off cydia. Don't have to worry about what size a game is.
 
Dropship is cool, I played through the first four levels and died on the fifth... fun game.
Downloaded MEVO, looks fun, about to try it. Spider: The Secret of Bryce Manor also looks really good.

Love independent gaming... what is everyone's most replayed (iPhone) game?
 
bought doom resurrection, it's pretty fun, but i'm definitely glad i waited until it was price-dropped. and i finally got used to duke3d's control scheme, even though i know they're working on proper dual stick controls.

quick question that i think i know the question to - does the iphone still have the 9 pages of icon limit? i thought i remember it saying you can still install over that but you just have to find it in spotlight? i'm not yet at 9 pages but just curious.
 
Prezhulio said:
bought doom resurrection, it's pretty fun, but i'm definitely glad i waited until it was price-dropped. and i finally got used to duke3d's control scheme, even though i know they're working on proper dual stick controls.

quick question that i think i know the question to - does the iphone still have the 9 pages of icon limit? i thought i remember it saying you can still install over that but you just have to find it in spotlight? i'm not yet at 9 pages but just curious.
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it's 11 pages now.
 
the_painted_bird said:
Dropship is cool, I played through the first four levels and died on the fifth... fun game.
Downloaded MEVO, looks fun, about to try it. Spider: The Secret of Bryce Manor also looks really good.

Love independent gaming... what is everyone's most replayed (iPhone) game?
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drop7 and wordjong. CivRev will most likely over take them however.
 
vesp said:
drop7 and wordjong. CivRev will most likely over take them however.
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If I had to pick one universal game to recommend it would be drop7. Simply one of my favorite games ever. There are lots of games I really like on the platform though.
 
TowerMadness (3d aliens vs sheep td) FREE for Today.
If you think you might even remotely enjoy TDs then get this. I bought it at $1 and I'm happy with my purchase. It's no GeoDefense, but it is a fun game for a TD nut like me.

One cool thing is they have a high score board and you can tap on a high score and watch that other person's game.

New price doesn't show on AppShopper yet but shows in the App Store for me.

http://appshopper.com/games/towermadness

TA impressions
 
spunibard said:
TowerMadness (3d aliens vs sheep td) FREE for Today.
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Thank you for this news.

Also, get Drop Ship! It's awesome. Just understand that it's a 2.5d game because I didn't at first and it made it seem like the controls were a mess because the ship wouldn't move where I wanted it to :lol
 
Just want to jump in and say that I picked up Orbital, Spider, and Spy Bot (as well as free Mevo) yesterday.

None of them are pulling me away from Civ Rev but all 3 are very solid. Definitely worth the 8 bucks I spent.
 
John just mentioned Spider on 1UP Yours. That was the last straw. Boooought.

Sidenote: Drop Ship? No bueno. That shit is worth free.
 
I just finished Metal Gear Solid Touch last night. Man, what a disappointment. It's kind of fun, but it doesn't seem to reflect MGS4 well at all. I can't believe they took out
the microwave hall
and even
the events after Outer Haven.
I was expecting at least a little mindblowing fourth wall breaking during the Mantis fight, but there was essentially nothing besides
shaking the iPod
.

However, after playing this, I feel like playing MGS4 again. :D
 
Spider is amazing. The art style, music, and "narrative on the background" make this the iphone's braid! And we got it so soon, too. :)
 
Played the first few levels of Star Defense. Game is flat out bad, IMO. It's impossible to get a decent view of the play-area, the path design lends itself to practically no strategizing, and it is pure rock-paper-scissors with the weapons, meaning one weapon does zero damage to a particular enemy, etc.
 
lawblob said:
Played the first few levels of Star Defense. Game is flat out bad, IMO. It's impossible to get a decent view of the play-area, the path design lends itself to practically no strategizing, and it is pure rock-paper-scissors with the weapons, meaning one weapon does zero damage to a particular enemy, etc.
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I try not to fall for big name brand hype. Not saying that the game is bad, but it just doesn't look like a game I want to play (The Creeps and Geo Defense are fine enough TC for me). I'll probably never purchase either Rolando, or Doom Resurrection, SPider and so on. They just don't look appealing to me.
Yeah, I'm probably missing out on some great games, but it's not like I have a shortage. You have to draw the line somewhere.
 
lawblob said:
Played the first few levels of Star Defense. Game is flat out bad, IMO. It's impossible to get a decent view of the play-area, the path design lends itself to practically no strategizing, and it is pure rock-paper-scissors with the weapons, meaning one weapon does zero damage to a particular enemy, etc.
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I'm glad I waited til it was 59p, but I wish there was a lite version so I couldve tried it beforehand. It just first register with me in anyway. It strikes me as style over substance, and I don't even think it's that stylish!

Not a fan.
 
lawblob said:
Played the first few levels of Star Defense. Game is flat out bad, IMO. It's impossible to get a decent view of the play-area, the path design lends itself to practically no strategizing, and it is pure rock-paper-scissors with the weapons, meaning one weapon does zero damage to a particular enemy, etc.
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The game got good review mostly because it has the brand behind it. For some reason media like IGN feels the need to give good reviews to all NGMOCO games because it seems to associate with good. There are so many better tower defense type games on the iPhone. Same thing goes for WordFu. It was a okay game, but there are tons more out there that are better.
 
mrkgoo said:
I try not to fall for big name brand hype. Not saying that the game is bad, but it just doesn't look like a game I want to play (The Creeps and Geo Defense are fine enough TC for me). I'll probably never purchase either Rolando, or Doom Resurrection, SPider and so on. They just don't look appealing to me.
Yeah, I'm probably missing out on some great games, but it's not like I have a shortage. You have to draw the line somewhere.
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"Big name brand hype" = GAF hype, am I rite?
 
I think doom has a serious battery issue. While playing the battry drains extremely fast. This also continues after you exit out of the game.

Anyone have a similar experience?
 
Been playing "Zenonia" the past few days and man I'm loving this game. It does have its faults but it's mostly enjoyable. Looking back at it, App Games for media devices (I.E. Cell Phones) have come a long, long, long, long fucking way.

I remember seeing commercials for Splinter Cell for T-Mobile phones some years ago and being blown away by how detailed it looked.

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Actually it was made by the same developer/publisher as Zenonia!


I know I may turn up some brows with this, but I really think that Apple's "i" devices will be a major player in the gaming industry no more than a few years.
 
60_gig_PS3 said:
this is pretty funny. I'm going to miss these crazy antics one Apple finally starts to acknowledge copyrights.
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Holy crap, I was just thinking about this game the other day. Bought. And glad to pass the REAL devs a few of my bucks, too :)
 
Flying_Phoenix said:
I know I may turn up some brows with this, but I really think that Apple's "i" devices will be a major player in the gaming industry no more than a few years.
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I strongly agree, but in terms of it already happening. I think it's not even gaming, but the philosophy of digital distribution is really being emphasized the most here on this platform.

Due to the iPhone I think digital distribution prices have had a crazy influx and will be affected. It's already showing in the .99 stuff sony has planned for the PSP.
 
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