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[Proven]

So far I've heard that you can throw items, you can pick up other weapons, you can shoot with a single pistol (I don't remember who thought that was wrong).

What usually screws people up are the miniguns/railguns. You can't use those. Saturday a friend was going for the achievement on No Mercy with another friend and this cool random. We decide to be different and jump onto the roof, throwing down moltovs and gas tanks, with one person on the upper roof holding a sniper rifle. 2nd Horde comes, we can taste victory as we have more than enough health and fire to stop the tank afterward, so I tell my friend with the pistols to jump on the minigun while I and the other with machine guns back him up for maximum firepower. We make it through handily, take out the tank with running, gunning, and fire nice and quick, run for the chopper throwing down a pipe and an extra moltov to cover, and no one gets left behind. But then he didn't get the achievement.

Someone guessed it was the minigun, we went on to do Death Toll on Normal to be sure, and sure enough, that was it.

 

[notsol337]

The AI likes to break the bridge going from the platform in Dead Air 3 to that construction site building... thing. (I've got description skills). Also, it likes to shoot the barricade thing, summoning forth the death of all humans before I can toss gascans around.

I've given single player pretty much an entire skip.

 

[MickeyKnox]

The AI likes to break the bridge going from the platform in Dead Air 3 to that construction site building... thing. (I've got description skills). Also, it likes to shoot the barricade thing, summoning forth the death of all humans before I can toss gascans around.

I've given single player pretty much an entire skip.

The 2nd floor of that building is actually the best place to make your stand.

 

[CaptainCamerica]

After spending 2 straight all nighters finishing the campaign and versus mode I must say this game completely exceeded my expectations. It is so much fun and having a full 4 friends team is the best experience by far.

I do have a question on the versus mode though. When I create a lobby it will only give the map options of No Mercy and Blood Harvest. I completed all the campaigns and such but it still only gives me these two options. Any reason or solution?

 

[syllogism]

I do have a question on the versus mode though. When I create a lobby it will only give the map options of No Mercy and Blood Harvest. I completed all the campaigns and such but it still only gives me these two options. Any reason or solution?

Only two campaigns are available in Versus right now. It's strange they didn't have time to rebalance them for Versus, but at least there's something to look forward to very soon.

 

[CaptainCamerica]

AI's ALWAYS startle the witches... ALWAYS

We'll frequently successfully bypass a witch, and even after we're past it, the AI will turn around and shoot. They need to fix that.

Oh man the AI pisses me off sometimes. I had 2 friends playing with me and Louis as the CPU and were attempting the get the Witch Hunter (no survivor takes damage after startling the witch) and Burn the Witch (light here on fire). We had the near perfect strategy. Since she usually goes for the survivor that startles her we decided the one who shoots her stands as far away as possible while the other two stand close but off to the sides out of her view, with assault rifles and auto shottys. Well we get all set up, no zombies in sight, I get the molotov ready and BAM...Louis shot at her. Dammit Louis.

 

[CaptainCamerica]

Only two campaigns are available in Versus right now. It's strange they didn't have time to rebalance them for Versus, but at least there's something to look forward to very soon.

That's a shame. But yea it does give you something to look for in the future.

 

[Oreoleo]

Before the game came out I read about the PC version supporting split screen if one person was using an Xbox 360 controller. Did this end up making it into the final game, and if so how do I activate it?

Edit: Nevermind, found this:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745113

 

[RetroMG]

Louis was pissing me off last night in a 2 player co-op game. My firend and I were Francis and Bill, but the Louis AI would pick up any healing items we found RIGHT as I was about to grab them. And then when my buddy and I were both in the red, he turns around and heals Zoey, who's at 50% health. And finally, as a Boomer comes running toward us, I have a perfect shot to take him out, and Louis runs right in front of my gun. End result, Boomer explodes near us, and we get the Horde.

Dammit, Louis.

 

[Volcynika]

A large part depends on the Director. I was in a game with Volcynika last night when it spawned a Tank before we even left the safe room. And then I got chose to be a tank on the finale of No Mercy just as they left their safe room. So it's them at one end of the hallway and me on the other end. It was like a firing squad.

I still call shenanigans on that game, they actually had one more tank in the whole campaign than we did!

 

[dralla]

they need to let us play all the chapters on versus :[ patch plz

 

[Papercuts]

I did Dead Air for the first time last night and aimed for a few achievements, I ended up getting Safety First, Unbreakable, Dead Baron, Stand Tall, Do Not Disturb, and No-one Left Behind right at the end when I finally beat it.

I encountered tons of witches and had no clue where to check, so Do Not Disturb was definitely the biggest surprise. Even though people here seem to say the AI will disturb them all the time they were fine(this time anyway), though I guess there was a glitch at one point because after sneaking up the parking lot past a witch, Louis yelled "WITCH!" and we were attacked by one, though none were disturbed in the first place.

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

they need to let us play all the chapters on versus :[ patch plz

It'd be a big patch. The vs maps are actually entirely different versions of the maps and have to be compiled seperately. Apparantly the reason for all 4 campaigns not being vs is a disc-space issue and an issue that the other 2 campaigns are less fun in versus mode. I think it's in the commentary.

 

[Sibylus]

they need to let us play all the chapters on versus :[ patch plz

5 bucks says Valve is playtesting the Versus versions of the other campaigns already.

 

[syllogism]

It'd be a big patch. The vs maps are actually entirely different versions of the maps and have to be compiled seperately. Apparantly the reason for all 4 campaigns not being vs is a disc-space issue and an issue that the other 2 campaigns are less fun in versus mode. I think it's in the commentary.

The campaigns are around 100mb each

 

[notsol337]

I still call shenanigans on that game, they actually had one more tank in the whole campaign than we did!

Yeah, our one less tank sucked.

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

The campaigns are around 100mb each

:lol Then Valve are lazy sons of bitches then! I can remember the source, I think it was that live chat with the writer on .. Friday? He said something about there being 30 maps shipped, so I figured it was a space issue. Still, the bit about the other camps being unfun in vs was there.

 

[kitch9]

I can't get my 360 wired headset, the one the plugs into the controller, to work with steam. It keeps defaulting to the built-in one that is in my laptop. Eveywhere I search online says that it will work, but I can't seem to get it to. Anyone using the 360 headset?

In vista right click volume icon in taskbar and set default recording device to the ms headset.

 

[Won]

:lol Then Valve are lazy sons of bitches then! I can remember the source, I think it was that live chat with the writer on .. Friday? He said something about there being 30 maps shipped, so I figured it was a space issue. Still, the bit about the other camps being unfun in vs was there.

He said that, because he wanted to point out that simply yelling "VERSUS!" at the campaigns don't make them fun for both sides. They modified them and put them in seperate files. That is all.

 

[dLMN8R]

Yes - the versus mode maps are slightly tweaked versions of the co-op maps. It takes a lot of time to change them in ways to allow users to play on them without causing problems, and balance them out to make them fun.

Glad we got what we got instead of nothing at all. At PAX they were still unsure if versus mode would ship with the game.

 

[Blizzard]

Dagnab it, you're right. I used the minigun because of course the AI won't use it. That's what threw off my achievement.

Oh yeah, that game with the tanks. Didn't we still win even with the other team having an extra tank?

For everyone else's benefit: Volc, notso1337 (WHO LEFT ME TO DIE), and some others were playing on some random versus server where each side had a tank like every single level, and typically pretty early on in the level. It was actually pretty fun since levels didn't drag on too long.

 

[Volcynika]

I never get to be the tank, and when I finally do, it's only for 5 seconds.

 

[layzie1989]

Okay, I just got left 4 dead for pc, and i'm ready to own some zombies! My steam id is imborden, and i'm excited to play with fellow gaffers.

 

[CrookedRain]

Wow, that server really sucked. I'm proud of my team for making that great comeback at the end. I thought we were done for, but we stopped the other team as infected and escaped in the helicopter with 3 people to win by a narrow margin.

 

[Beavertown]

Anyone have any luck capping the Witch in the head for the crOwned achievement?

 

[Darkflight]

You know what pisses me off? When a team gets a tank and annihilates you and then you don't get one back and watch as they crush your score, so fucking annoying.

Worst thing is my friend never seems to get annoyed at stuff like this, I swear I could burn his house down and he'd be like, oh well, shit happens, I swear I hate him sometimes. :lol

 

[Beavertown]

You know what pisses me off? When a team gets a tank and annihilates you and then you don't get one back and watch as they crush your score, so fucking annoying.

Tanks are weaksauce. Just throw a molotov at them and run away.

They're actually a little too nerfed in the vs mode.

 

[CrookedRain]

All those versus servers with slowed down melee, 3 infected bosses at a time limit and increased spawn distance for infected really piss me off.

 

[Trevor360]

Anyone have any luck capping the Witch in the head for the crOwned achievement?

yes, auto shotty at point blank. I meant to hit her head but actually got closer to her back/shoulder and still 1 shot her.

 

[Beavertown]

yes, auto shotty at point blank. I meant to hit her head but actually got closer to her back/shoulder and still 1 shot her.

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Okay, I just got left 4 dead for pc, and i'm ready to own some zombies! My steam id is imborden, and i'm excited to play with fellow gaffers.

Throw me an invite if you want to do some campaign mode!

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960428347

 

[BioHazard]

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

I snuck up on her on then when I was point blank I turned my flashlight on. When she was almost completely stood up I shot her in the head with the pump shotgun.

 

[1-D_FTW]

They seriously need a new way of picking servers. It's either the UK or Seattle a retarded percentage of the time. I could see if a decent chunk of gamers had decent pings, but when nobody's in that region, pick again.

All those versus servers with slowed down melee, 3 infected bosses at a time limit and increased spawn distance for infected really piss me off.

That too. I'm really beginning to hate this console style game matching.

 

[Blizzard]

If anyone wants to add me (I added you, Scarlet), I may try some easy campaigning for achievements tonight.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/agentelrond

(side note, it looks like the stupid HL2.EXE crash on Vista means my TF2 playtime is ludicrously low, wow)

 

[atomsk]

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

note, she has to be slashing the crap out of a teammate when you do this

if you do it when she's crying, it won't work

 

[Amir0x]

I was playing this game earlier, and some grown-ass man was getting yelled at by his mother over the mic. Fucking hilarious. She was like 'you've been back home for six months, and you still haven't done anything!' And he's all 'Is it really a big deal, ma? REALLY?'

I could not stop laughing. After he finished arguing with her with fucked with him for the entire game.

 

[Twig]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuck!

Me, notsol337, Capndrake, and sonicspear64 all earned Nothing Special earlier today, but it didn't count for me and notso! (notso says it shows up when he views achievements in-game, so maybe it'll show up on Steam eventually. D Drake has it, I just checked. Not fair! I have Unbreakable, which I got at the same time! This is dumb. ):

Also, we fulfilled the requirements for Untouchables, but apparently not because none of us got that. It didn't even show up in-game. Drake suspects one of us took falling damage. ):<

Damn you broken achievements.

 

[hulot]

Two versus games, both times the other team quits out. Frustrating. Any 360 players here? GT is same as gaf name.

 

[Darkflight]

So for Nothing Special, you can get grabbed by a smoker etc as long as you don't take damage?

 

[1-D_FTW]

Any tech heads here know why the pings are so high for this game? I've been thinking about it some more, and they're just not right. My ping to the Seattle server was 220. I'm a long ways from Seattle, but 120 should be more like it. And I should be more like 100 to the UK and not the 180 I'm usually getting. Is there some reason this game is adding such an overhead?

 

[MrDaravon]

Isn't Versus mode supposed to put you in a match based on your "experience" or something? I just played with a group of people who've all beaten it on advanced, and we just lost three games in a row by over five fucking thousand each game. This is completely broken, and I've gone from this being my game of the year to me fucking hating this game and never wanting to play this again. Every match we just got completely, completely fucking slaughtered not even a quarter of the way into each level, and NONE of us were newbies in any sense of the word.

 

[Costanza]

edit: nvm

 

[Zzoram]

Isn't Versus mode supposed to put you in a match based on your "experience" or something? I just played with a group of people who've all beaten it on advanced, and we just lost three games in a row by over five fucking thousand each game. This is completely broken, and I've gone from this being my game of the year to me fucking hating this game and never wanting to play this again. Every match we just got completely, completely fucking slaughtered not even a quarter of the way into each level, and NONE of us were newbies in any sense of the word.

Stick together, and move quickly. That's the best thing you can do as Survivors, and it'll usually work. Playing as Infected, it becomes obvious how hard it is to do damage if the Survivors are always covering each other. Also, try not to let Boomers slime more than 2 of you at a time, since the distraction of horde zombies is when they'll nail you hard with Hunters. Tanks are manageable especially if you have the best weapons, just circle strafe and unload on it. Whoever it's chasing should just run and use high ground when possible. Make sure when you hear a tank coming that you pop pills if you're low on health, since you run slow when you're hurt.

Moving quick is essential, since the faster you finish the level, the fewer times the zombies will get to spawn.

 

[DeadFalling]

Isn't Versus mode supposed to put you in a match based on your "experience" or something? I just played with a group of people who've all beaten it on advanced, and we just lost three games in a row by over five fucking thousand each game. This is completely broken, and I've gone from this being my game of the year to me fucking hating this game and never wanting to play this again. Every match we just got completely, completely fucking slaughtered not even a quarter of the way into each level, and NONE of us were newbies in any sense of the word.

If you are not newbies, then I would assume you should rape them back when it's your turn as the infected. Maybe you just got beat?

 

[Trevor360]

note, she has to be slashing the crap out of a teammate when you do this

if you do it when she's crying, it won't work

this is factually wrong.

How are you supposed to 1shot her if she has already reached your team? Ask your teammates not to shoot her while you run up? You can 1 shot her while she is still crying.

 

[Companion Cube]

Isn't Versus mode supposed to put you in a match based on your "experience" or something? I just played with a group of people who've all beaten it on advanced, and we just lost three games in a row by over five fucking thousand each game. This is completely broken, and I've gone from this being my game of the year to me fucking hating this game and never wanting to play this again. Every match we just got completely, completely fucking slaughtered not even a quarter of the way into each level, and NONE of us were newbies in any sense of the word.

As far as I know, versus just matches you up with a server/lobby with the right amount of slots open.

 

[MrDaravon]

Stick together, and move quickly. That's the best thing you can do as Survivors, and it'll usually work. Playing as Infected, it becomes obvious how hard it is to do damage if the Survivors are always covering each other. Also, try not to let Boomers slime more than 2 of you at a time, since the distraction of horde zombies is when they'll nail you hard with Hunters. Tanks are manageable especially if you have the best weapons, just circle strafe and unload on it. Whoever it's chasing should just run and use high ground when possible. Make sure when you hear a tank coming that you pop pills if you're low on health, since you run slow when you're hurt.

Moving quick is essential, since the faster you finish the level, the fewer times the zombies will get to spawn.

Oh believe me, that's what were doing. We're hardly new to Versus. These guys were just insanely good. I also like how over all three games, except for where the Tanks spawn in the final chapter, we got a Tank how many times? Once. How many did they get? At least one per game I can think of off the top of my head. The AI director was just completely not helping us.

If you are not newbies, then I would assume you should rape them back when it's your turn as the infected. Maybe you just got beat?

Well obviously. My point is the matchmaking or whatever you want to call it is horribly broken. The two games I played before that, we won by over 5000. The problem is that matches are horribly lopsided. I don't think I've played a game of Versus where a team has not won by a minimum of 2000 or more. I have no idea if the game is supposed to be doing something behind the scenes to match players based on difficulties beat, time spent playing the game, or what, but it's obviously not working. All this is encouraging me to do is to quit out of games and join a new lobby.

As far as I know, versus just matches you up with a server/lobby with the right amount of slots open.

Oh, well that's crap then. The title screen says it matches you based on experience or some such. I don't mind losing, but over about 10 years of playing online games, that was about the crappiest three hours of it.

 

[DeadFalling]

Yeah... I'm pretty sure it just matches based on slots open. Anyways, the matches are usually one-sided, but that match every few that is sooo close makes it all worth it. Fighting for every point.

 

[Zzoram]

The AI director was just completely not helping us.

It could just be bad luck.

 

[NotWii]

How I got CROWNED

- Snuck up behind the witch point blank with my flashlight off and autoshotgun
- When the witch starts to look at you and growls before becoming startled, SHOOT HER IN THE FACE!
- Achievement unlocked