The Official Left 4 Dead Thread
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sublime085
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Don't you feel cheap doing that? It's obviously an exploit in that there should be a chance to be revived or pulled up from the edge. It's not supposed to be insta-death.Ganhyun said:
Play like a man!
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Pfft, he would've just camped under the ramp anyways.sublime085 said:
Keylime
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Being a smoker isn't usually about damage, it's about forcing the survivors to run backwards, giving your other guys more time to respawn.buttmagic said:
That being said, I usually do some solid damage with the Smoker. The trick is to either drag people off of ledges so they fall a good distance and take fall damage (or death), and to pull from angles that won't allow you to get shot easily.
Make sure you grab people that are either trailing behind or in the middle of some crazy event, as people will be less likely to realize something has happened.
fallengorn
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I wish it'd recharge faster if you didn't hit anything, like the Smoker.buttmagic said:
Snapshot King
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Boomer puke takes longer to recharge than a respawn. Its like that to encourage you to puke on em and then try and bait them into shooting you.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Yeah, I love doing that. Running around awkwardly while waiting for someone to shoot you. :lol :lolSnapshot King said:
BobsRevenge said:
Problem with that, is if its a good team, they blow right through that first ambush and get to the rooftop very very quickly. I've seen teams get there, with resistance, in less than 45 seconds, which, if 15 seconds of that is them killing you, then they get to the top right when you go to spawn, so too late for that ambush, unless a witch is between them and the roof. which is always awesome. But yes, a crappy team? Go right ahead and do that, possibly twice.
I haven;t had the luck with the tank to get that All 4 Dead yet either.
sublime085 said:
Nah, I don't feel cheap. Because what i'm doing, if no one helps him, is puling him off the top of that roof to the ground below, easily 20+ feet realistically, causing major damage(its the way they land and hit thats doing it I think). If someone helps they may just grab the edge. But I would be ok with a patch where that doesnt kill them juts puts them to "down" mode.
RubxQub said:
This is an excellent summary of smoker playing.
another trick: as a smoker on levels with cars with alarms, spawn by them and pull a guy into it. The survivors trying to free their teammate will set the alarm off usually, helping your team out and slowing them down.
Boomer is fun too: Barf on them and then try to sucker them into shooting you to get even more on them.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Well, it only takes 25 seconds to respawn most times, doesn't it?. It'll be tight, but I've honestly never ran into a team that fast. If I'm playing against you though I'll keep in mind to change my tactics a bit.Ganhyun said:Problem with that, is if its a good team, they blow right through that first ambush and get to the rooftop very very quickly. I've seen teams get there, with resistance, in less than 45 seconds, which, if 15 seconds of that is them killing you, then they get to the top right when you go to spawn, so too late for that ambush, unless a witch is between them and the roof. which is always awesome. But yes, a crappy team? Go right ahead and do that, possibly twice.
I haven;t had the luck with the tank to get that All 4 Dead yet either.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
I got that achievement in the big room in the first level that's actually in the No Mercy hospital. The other team was terrible and I was able to just knock them all down (as a tank the key is to know when to throw concrete, a lot of people don't even bother using that attack). We had hit them pretty hard early on too with one of the starting ambushes I love so dearly. I didn't realize what I had done until after the message popped up saying I got All 4 Dead and the match ended. :lolGanhyun said:
A guy on my team spawned as a tank on No Mercy (hospital) right after the survivors opened the door. He then ran into the room, killed all four and got the achievement. I'm not even sure they realised what was going on
It's the only time I've experienced anyone starting as a tank.
It's the only time I've experienced anyone starting as a tank.
BobsRevenge said:Well, it only takes 25 seconds to respawn most times, doesn't it?. It'll be tight, but I've honestly never ran into a team that fast. If I'm playing against you though I'll keep in mind to change my tactics a bit.
I thought respawn was 30 seconds if both teams are full. Remember they just show your dead carcass for about 5 seconds before you see a timer.
BobsRevenge said:
So is it killing all 4 of them or just knocking them into down mode? I usually end up as the tank on the rooftop finale, when they are ready for them.
I come into a game the other day on 360, and in the lobby it's just me and "Xbox Live Dev". As soon as I enter, he starts the game. So we're on the Hospital level, and he's throwing everything he can at me...and he knocks all the computer players off, and I manage to pretty much kill the tank by myself. As soon as that's out of the way, he spawns another tank. And another. And another. And a witch, and then a dozen witches. Then he starts flying around.
It was an interesting game >_<
It was an interesting game >_<
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Just knocking them all down. I don't think my team killed any of them, and if they did I certainly didn't do it.Ganhyun said:
sublime085
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Incapping all 4 to end the round does the trick. Doesn't have to be death.Ganhyun said:
Smacking around cars on No Mercy 1 is a great way to get it.
GhettoGamer
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I guess moving the generator in front of the elevator on NM4 is common knowledge now. Every match Ive been in have someone doing it, we melee it out the way, but it annoying and wastes time
Volcynika said:
:lol :lol I know its there, but I never use it myself. I think its funny when people do and then die.
As far as blocking the elevator in NM4 or the warehouse door in NM3, i don't do it unless the other team does it to me.
Edit: Well, i'm off to the house. I'll be on around 6 or so. Hopefully I can get an Expert campaign going.
Volcynika said:
:lol
When I did it the first time I was just futzing around with what I thought was just a plain ol' dead wall. Imagine my surprise when the "wall" opened up to reveal the witch that we bypassed earlier.
I had to run away because I don't think that door closes.
:lol :lol
Keylime
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The trick to this is getting between everyone. A lot of people nowadays are getting cool enough to melee you and pop you. The best way to avoid this is to go at them while they are fighting a horde or have a mate who's pinned. They'll be too quick to act in those scenarios.Grecco said:
Try as best as you can to get inbetween everyone. If there are 4 of them all together, don't swipe at the guys from the outside, get between everyone and then start your swiping, so there isn't an obvious pushing person. I've found that 1 of the 4 will almost always shoot you in that situation.
I still find hunters boring, but a good tactic to load up a ton of damage is to swipe at people that are getting mobbed to death, don't pounce. They won't even realize you're there and you'll do a shit-ton of damage to them. You blend in with a horde pretty nicely, so this should work out well for you.
RubxQub said:
I wish it wasn't hunter, hunter, boomer, smoker.
It should be hunter, boomer, smoker, random/preference.
(When you're spawning, if there's 1 of each alive/spawning, then you get to be a random infected / you get to pick.)
There may be balance implications (especially if you get two good boomers staggering puking on a group), but I'm tired of being a hunter.
I've noticed a lot more people meleeing me as a hunter. I started doing it too, and it's far better than shooting away at some pouncing sweatshirt-wearing wussie as he bounces around you. Getting meleed as an infected seriously screws with your ability to do anything.
Getting the mid-air melee just before a hunter lands on you is difficult, but running up and getting him as he's jumping around to get into position is actually not that hard (if he happens to be on the same level as you). One or two melee hits and he'll be disoriented to the point of uselessness, and you can just shoot him at your leisure.
Botolf said:
No, the door is
around the corner and down the stairs from the small room that you drop down into via a hole in the floor. This is in the warehouse that you break into by smashing a huge window, after using a lift and traversing the rooftops. Take a look when you get to the bottom of the stairs, you should see a metal grate that oepns up back onto the loading docks where the trucks are.
CrookedRain
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Learn to wall jump. It changes everything. When you leap towards a wall, turn and look away from the wall and leap again. You can do this for as long as you can keep it up and you can get some sick pounces on people that never saw you coming.buttmagic said:
Baloonatic
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CrookedRain said:
Wow, I never knew that. I'm pretty hopeless as a Hunter, but I'll give that a go.
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Also, if you get a person a group that enjoys just melee'ing you a thousand times to kill you (I do this as well when I'm feeling dickish or I don't want to waste ammo/shoot my teamate), make sure you spam the swipe button. You can sometimes get a jab or two off mid-push frenzy.Botolf said:
...and general tip: Don't spawn so close to the survivors unless there is a good reason to. Too many people will spawn in the room immediately next to the survivors with a Hunter and wonder why they see one of them whip around the corner and pump them full of shotty.
It's because they hear you. It's very obvious when someone freshly spawns, as they immediately make the noise of their character. Hunters are dead quite if you're just running around, but the moment you crouch it's sore throat city.
Spawn far ahead or decently far behind the survivors so you aren't heard and can be more surprising.
KilgoreTrout
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If anyone is up for an expert run of Blood Harvest in 30-45 minutes on XBL, add me.
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Is there any third party app to spy all the game servers in a method other than the "openserverbrowser"? And anyone know of a thread that Valve is responding to? I realize there's Steam's website, but I'm talking specific threads where action is being taken?
There is something horribly broken with the server process. In between looking for a decent game with pubs, I opened a campaign lobby. Hit "openserverbrowser" could find a single server. Couldn't start a Campaign cause it couldn't find a server (big surprise.) Yet Remy's server was empty (viewing from the link he posted). And using a ping tool, pinged it at 48. But my ability to see, let alone access, is denied with yellow error codes.
I know I'm not alone, because spying most friend's games I've noticed they generally have bad pings. I've witnessed a couple people who, as host, also can't start games. I've seen people who can only find a server in Seattle or UK. I've seen people who only get awful servers. And then there are those special few who, when host, always get fantastic servers. This is definitely related to the host's ability to see servers. And I'd like to find a bitch thread that's being followed where I can share screenshots of what's happening when I search for servers.
There is something horribly broken with the server process. In between looking for a decent game with pubs, I opened a campaign lobby. Hit "openserverbrowser" could find a single server. Couldn't start a Campaign cause it couldn't find a server (big surprise.) Yet Remy's server was empty (viewing from the link he posted). And using a ping tool, pinged it at 48. But my ability to see, let alone access, is denied with yellow error codes.
I know I'm not alone, because spying most friend's games I've noticed they generally have bad pings. I've witnessed a couple people who, as host, also can't start games. I've seen people who can only find a server in Seattle or UK. I've seen people who only get awful servers. And then there are those special few who, when host, always get fantastic servers. This is definitely related to the host's ability to see servers. And I'd like to find a bitch thread that's being followed where I can share screenshots of what's happening when I search for servers.
BobsRevenge said:
I don't see how it could be my fault, I was actually out in front of the group in that situation. There are a lot of people out there who just aren't alert of their teammates. They choose to play with mute on or something, and either don't hear your voice-chat or don't hear the obvious noise it makes when someone on your team gets attacks. If someone on my team gets pounced, I'm usually on their ass even before they start taking damage, and I pretty much NEVER assume that someone else is taking care of them, because usually, they aren't.
POWERSPHERE
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A good team sticks together. It's pretty easy to do if yr with a team of non douchebags. Just say 'ok, we ready' and off y'toodle! Tadaaaah! Next compulsive 'runner' i get, i'm gonna boot.