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The Official Magna Carta 2 Thread of Sorry Duckroll
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Ricker said:
Haven't had any problems so far. No game over screens for me. But maybe things get tougher in Disc 2?
While it's still too early for me to say if this is better than SO4 (which I really enjoyed), I can say that I like the playable characters a lot more in this game. No Lymle-like annoyances have joined my team yet. (Celestine is pretty shrill though...) And the interactions between Juto and Crocell are sort of hilarious.
FateBreaker
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I love how so many of you are asking questions that have been answered by the many peeps that already explained them in their impressions.
Also, the DLC is silly; it is a package of three scenes. That's it. It comes with some Achievements and some new weapons, too.
Also, the DLC is silly; it is a package of three scenes. That's it. It comes with some Achievements and some new weapons, too.
FateBreaker
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Einbroch said:
400 MSP is still too much.
As I was playing this I was looking at the achievements and I guess the collect the weapon achievements require you to have the dlc weapons for them? That's so incredibly stupid if so, here's one example just as a copy and paste: Collect all of Juto's weapons, including downloadable content.
I've only played for a couple of hours but so far this game isn't holding my attention at all. The characters just look terrible to me and the game has just been incredibly boring. Will keep going in hopes it gets better.
I've only played for a couple of hours but so far this game isn't holding my attention at all. The characters just look terrible to me and the game has just been incredibly boring. Will keep going in hopes it gets better.
FateBreaker
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Xevren said:
The collect weapon Achievements ARE the DLC Achievements. If you don't get the DLC, you don't have to worry about it.
FateBreaker
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so I bought the DLC and yeah, it has these three cinematics which I won't view yet since I don't have all the characters...but I thought the super-duper weapons were just an extra bonus or something, and I thought you'd have to go find them.
Nope! These weapons are like, +300 off your strongest weapon at the first big city. It's already in everyone's inventory, whether you like it or not. I've been using it for a bit to see how things are, and as you guessed, this makes the already-easy game to HUGELY easy. The DLC was released the same day as the game was released...man, if, let's say, 50% of the people who bought the game bought the DLC, just imagine how many temptations are given to totally unbalance the game.
Nope! These weapons are like, +300 off your strongest weapon at the first big city. It's already in everyone's inventory, whether you like it or not. I've been using it for a bit to see how things are, and as you guessed, this makes the already-easy game to HUGELY easy. The DLC was released the same day as the game was released...man, if, let's say, 50% of the people who bought the game bought the DLC, just imagine how many temptations are given to totally unbalance the game.
So, I'm 4 hours into the game.
It's a pretty nice surprice I must say (probably beacause there was no hype at all). Nothing overwhelming but not crap either. It gets the job done; Nice graphics, fantastic music and the combat is ok so far.
I was kinda worried at the beggining seeing the unreal engine logo because the games I've played had horrible framerate but this game runs pretty smooooooth (which is even more rare for a japanese game).
I also didn't like the character design at first, but it kinda grows on you and I like it now. As for the gameplay, it feels mmo-ish, but it's ok i guess. I'm too early into the game to have an opinion on gameplay.
It's a pretty solid RPG so far and I'll be playing non-stop over the weekend.
It's a pretty nice surprice I must say (probably beacause there was no hype at all). Nothing overwhelming but not crap either. It gets the job done; Nice graphics, fantastic music and the combat is ok so far.
I was kinda worried at the beggining seeing the unreal engine logo because the games I've played had horrible framerate but this game runs pretty smooooooth (which is even more rare for a japanese game).
I also didn't like the character design at first, but it kinda grows on you and I like it now. As for the gameplay, it feels mmo-ish, but it's ok i guess. I'm too early into the game to have an opinion on gameplay.
It's a pretty solid RPG so far and I'll be playing non-stop over the weekend.
I'm 20 hours into the game now (half of the second disc I think). It's still an Ok game, but it's starting to feel a little boring, probably because the story doesn't pick up and you revisit the same areas over and over again.
The combat is still decent, but there is no depth to it aside from the chain system which is very easy to do once you understand how it works. So, it feels very mmo-ish and there is no strategy involved other than chaining your attacks.
And btw, no way in hell this is better than SO4. You guys can bash the cinematics and characters from SO4 all you want, but the gameplay itself is great and way waaay better than MC2.
It's not a bad game, but it's pretty generic in all fronts (so far at least).
The combat is still decent, but there is no depth to it aside from the chain system which is very easy to do once you understand how it works. So, it feels very mmo-ish and there is no strategy involved other than chaining your attacks.
And btw, no way in hell this is better than SO4. You guys can bash the cinematics and characters from SO4 all you want, but the gameplay itself is great and way waaay better than MC2.
It's not a bad game, but it's pretty generic in all fronts (so far at least).
Clocked around 8 hours, mainly strolling around and doing sidequests. I definitely like the "offline MMORPG" feeling and the world is rather pretty and cozy. A fantastic change from the incredibly vast dungeons and overworlds of Star Ocean 4 (no hate, good game, horrid level design).
I'm suspecting it might get slightly boring in the long run if the story doesn't keep you interested but I could care less, a solid buy thus far.
I'm suspecting it might get slightly boring in the long run if the story doesn't keep you interested but I could care less, a solid buy thus far.
Classic_Gs
Member
So I take it the demo provides a pretty good idea of the combat system, and it doesn't expand much beyond that?Dizzy-4U said:
Thx for the impressions btw.
RPGCrazied
Member
I rather enjoyed it, at last dungeon now with 33hours.. sure its no ToV or Lost Oddessy, but stomps over IU and Last Remnant.. atleast for me. I'd say its tied with S04 for me, yes I liked that game. 
The music is really awesome, but alot of the tracks aren't long enough..and repeats itself way to often.
The music is really awesome, but alot of the tracks aren't long enough..and repeats itself way to often.
I've been playing Magna Carta 2 this past weekend I like the Chain-Breaks and my Favorite party is Zephie, Juto & Celestine. I just started Disc 2 and leveling up at a nice pace, I actually had to grind a bit to buy all the weapons & support units when they become available at the Merchant. I'm planning to 1240/1240 it on first go, with the DLC weapons & Skill Point + XX% items it shouldn't be that difficult. I like how it notifies you in advance if you progress the story too far and it will state in a pop-up window "The following quests will be impossible to complete"
JustAnotherOtaku
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Anyone know if the PAL version is region free?
Wow the combo's you can achieve are insane, all you have to do is give Zelphie a Karn Control ( -1 Karn to all abilities ) and basically have Juto Attack 5 times -> Overdrive, switch to Zelphie hit A as many times as possible, then Overdrive -> Healing Wind for 1, it's free healing, with this you reset both with a Chain Break.
I actually started playing with the weapons available at the time instead of the DLC weapons... I was killing stuff before Overdrive. This game is way too easy to abuse, Equip Seeker + Skill Pendant = +80% Skill Points, just equip it at level-up then transfer to next candidate.
I actually started playing with the weapons available at the time instead of the DLC weapons... I was killing stuff before Overdrive. This game is way too easy to abuse, Equip Seeker + Skill Pendant = +80% Skill Points, just equip it at level-up then transfer to next candidate.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Man, is no one playing this game?
Anyhoo, bought it the other day. Pretty good so far if entirely formulaic. Nice battle system.
Anyhoo, bought it the other day. Pretty good so far if entirely formulaic. Nice battle system.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Bought this recently. This is probably one of the most surprising RPg on the 360. Really a pretty quality game.
Rahxephon91
Banned
So I just beat it a couple of hours ago and I still feel its a pretty good underrated Japanese style rpg.
Its got a lot of small problems though, and they really bring down the house.
The battle system is actually pretty cool. Its nothing complicated but it works a lot better then Eternal Sonata's system. I mention ES because the game has that turn based/real time thing going on. No, its not deep or anything and the game is quite easy. Its cool because for a button mashing rpg, there is some actual choice in the gameplay. You can just button mash ,but then you will basically lose your turn/energy or hope that you can use a move and then link it. That leads to a bit of a choice as I could just time my mashing out so I can avoid that and hopefully build up karma so that I can use stronger moves. That's cool to me because in something like Tales I just mash X with little thought. Linking moves is very fun and satisfies the trigger finger in me, though it would have been better to link more then 2 moves. It also requires me to play as other charcters besides the main. Usually I just stick to the main in action rpgs. None of the others are bad to play as and they are a bit different.
This leads to a huge problem because you only control one character. The AI can be very dumb. Later in the game it seems they like to get caught behind world objects or just plain don't attack. Because of this when you switch to them to Link moves they haven't done their job and thus the window to link moves passes. This then leaves two characters out of energy for a bit. Which can mean your not able to pull off the move you want. Also the game has the worst healer ever, since she doesn't seem to know how to heal. Add in the fact that the AI also doesn't seem to follow the types you set for them (which are pretty limited anyway) and you have some annoying problems with the battle system. And trust me they are annoying.
These complaints really don't mean anything for normal battles or the early bosses. But later bosses it can be very annoying. Maybe its just me but later in the games the bosses have so many annoying attacks that thanks to their animation can ruin your chains. A bosses attack animation will automatically put you into exhausted state as your attacking. It's annoying and comes off as wonky when it happens. Bosses also like to heal a lot and this has always annoyed me in rpgs.
As for the story, well its ok. There is actually some interesting twists that happen latter in the game. Developments that an actual good writer would have put more emphasis on the shades of grey that they had. There is some sort of tragic/"maybe not so wrong villainy" here. The thing is the game downplays it and just goes for the typical jrpg "love and peace" story. Its kind of sad as it diffidently could have been something different. There is still somewhat of a uniqueness to the end game plot, at least for me. The characters themselves are nothing great, pretty boring really. The voice acting is ok. I like Johnny Young Bosh but he does not have a good villain voice and when he tries its kind of funny. The voice acting is pretty corny but it fits this game.
All in all a solid game. The graphics are actually pretty good. Good use of the unreal engine. This game proves it can do hair. Environments are nice ,but you visit the same far to much. There really aren't a lot of them. The main city in the game is really quality though. Costumes and models are decent. The art style is funky and kind of off putting. Music is meh and the actual cutscense look really washed it.
Its a decent 7 jrpg.
Its got a lot of small problems though, and they really bring down the house.
The battle system is actually pretty cool. Its nothing complicated but it works a lot better then Eternal Sonata's system. I mention ES because the game has that turn based/real time thing going on. No, its not deep or anything and the game is quite easy. Its cool because for a button mashing rpg, there is some actual choice in the gameplay. You can just button mash ,but then you will basically lose your turn/energy or hope that you can use a move and then link it. That leads to a bit of a choice as I could just time my mashing out so I can avoid that and hopefully build up karma so that I can use stronger moves. That's cool to me because in something like Tales I just mash X with little thought. Linking moves is very fun and satisfies the trigger finger in me, though it would have been better to link more then 2 moves. It also requires me to play as other charcters besides the main. Usually I just stick to the main in action rpgs. None of the others are bad to play as and they are a bit different.
This leads to a huge problem because you only control one character. The AI can be very dumb. Later in the game it seems they like to get caught behind world objects or just plain don't attack. Because of this when you switch to them to Link moves they haven't done their job and thus the window to link moves passes. This then leaves two characters out of energy for a bit. Which can mean your not able to pull off the move you want. Also the game has the worst healer ever, since she doesn't seem to know how to heal. Add in the fact that the AI also doesn't seem to follow the types you set for them (which are pretty limited anyway) and you have some annoying problems with the battle system. And trust me they are annoying.
These complaints really don't mean anything for normal battles or the early bosses. But later bosses it can be very annoying. Maybe its just me but later in the games the bosses have so many annoying attacks that thanks to their animation can ruin your chains. A bosses attack animation will automatically put you into exhausted state as your attacking. It's annoying and comes off as wonky when it happens. Bosses also like to heal a lot and this has always annoyed me in rpgs.
As for the story, well its ok. There is actually some interesting twists that happen latter in the game. Developments that an actual good writer would have put more emphasis on the shades of grey that they had. There is some sort of tragic/"maybe not so wrong villainy" here. The thing is the game downplays it and just goes for the typical jrpg "love and peace" story. Its kind of sad as it diffidently could have been something different. There is still somewhat of a uniqueness to the end game plot, at least for me. The characters themselves are nothing great, pretty boring really. The voice acting is ok. I like Johnny Young Bosh but he does not have a good villain voice and when he tries its kind of funny. The voice acting is pretty corny but it fits this game.
All in all a solid game. The graphics are actually pretty good. Good use of the unreal engine. This game proves it can do hair. Environments are nice ,but you visit the same far to much. There really aren't a lot of them. The main city in the game is really quality though. Costumes and models are decent. The art style is funky and kind of off putting. Music is meh and the actual cutscense look really washed it.
Its a decent 7 jrpg.
I bought this recently and I was a little hesitant after reading the reviews and what not but I gotta say I am really enjoying this game alot it's far better than I thought it would be.
The combat is really good , music is good too plus I like the large amount of side quests I enjoy doing them.Ive honestly found myself playing it the last few nights till late in the morning and if it wasn't so late id probably play more its like I look forward to playing the next day.
Although right now I am finding the game a little easy it seems as long as I have zephie in my party I never really have to worry about health and im free to use juto and crocell to attack.Boss fights are pretty good though nice strategy element to them.I dont know how far in I am I just
The combat is really good , music is good too plus I like the large amount of side quests I enjoy doing them.Ive honestly found myself playing it the last few nights till late in the morning and if it wasn't so late id probably play more its like I look forward to playing the next day.
Although right now I am finding the game a little easy it seems as long as I have zephie in my party I never really have to worry about health and im free to use juto and crocell to attack.Boss fights are pretty good though nice strategy element to them.I dont know how far in I am I just
finished up with celestines villiage and am at the large battle at dunan hill
JetBlackPanda
Member
Just got done playing this for 3 hours - Very Solid JRPG I love the MMO feel that it has. this generation has not been to kind to the JRPG genre but anyone that played alot in the ps2 era will have alot of fun with this little gem.