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SomeDude said:The original Nights is the most overrated game of all time.
Man, that was a dumb move if ever there was one.
SomeDude said:The original Nights is the most overrated game of all time.
No, you're the most overrated game of all time.SomeDude said:The original Nights is the most overrated game of all time.
Hello NO Sir.SomeDude said:The original Nights is the most overrated game of all time.
Innotech said:A game exactly like the first would bomb harder than Zack and Wiki () so perhaps this might help it to sell.
we have first day numbers already?duckroll said:Too bad it bombed harder than Zack and Wiki anyway! :lol
Segata Sanshiro said:Yup.
7k.
Fuxxor.Segata Sanshiro said:Yup.
7k.
Well, only a few have played it so far, but the consensus is that it's fun but quite flawed at best, and an abomination on the face of SEGA Earth at worst.solid2snake said:i didn't follow the thread,
is Nights 2 crap? will Yuji Naka cuts his balls of?
Im keeping the faith until I play it myself. Some people said Zelda OOT was crap.Segata Sanshiro said:Well, only a few have played it so far, but the consensus is that it's fun but quite flawed at best, and an abomination on the face of SEGA Earth at worst.
Yuji Naka never had any balls to begin with.
It flopped like the Saints.topsyturvy said:wow, damn what the fuck at the sells?
hey topsy or innotech, i Just want to know if you guys still post in those nfl threads? My buddy nategc have been banned from the off topic forum and maestroryan owes him a bet for 200 dollars.topsyturvy said:wow, damn what the fuck at the sells?
ouch, :lol, if minny loses monday, you do know what that means right? Playoff times baby.Innotech said:It flopped like the Saints.
ari said:hey topsy or innotech, i Just want to know if you guys still post in those nfl threads? My buddy nategc have been banned from the off topic forum and maestroryan owes him a bet for 200 dollars.
here is the link.
its a bet about greenbay winning more games then the vikings?
yeah I still post in there.ari said:damn this really is one of my anticipated games, is it shit?
hey topsy or innotech, i Just want to know if you guys still post in those nfl threads? My buddy nategc have been banned from the off topic forum and maestroryan owes him a bet for 200 dollars.
here is the link.
its a bet about greenbay winning more games then the vikings?
is there any reviews?Innotech said:But back to NiGHTS JOD and its awesomeness/simultaneous suck.
Some scores in the OP.topsyturvy said:is there any reviews?
The Wii "game" market is pretty soft in Japan at the moment. A couple of other decent games came out and simul-flopped with it, with Chocobo stealing the most thunder but still not doing too great. I have no idea what the marketing was like, maybe a J-GAFer can fill us in, but we also can't discount that game just isn't appealing to a lot of people. Particularly given Dcharlie reporting used copies in Akiba on day one.topsyturvy said:the scores isn't so bad, why did it flopped? poor marketing?
What if from here on out it's all good impressions?Duderz said:Sad to hear about the game. Definite rental now, unless more bad impressions keep coming.
Segata Sanshiro said:What if from here on out it's all good impressions?
Well, it is just one territory, and Sonic does almost as badly there. Whether or not NiGHTS is ever touched again is going to rely heavily on NA and EU sales.HK-47 said:So it'll be who knows how long until another Nights comes along...if it even comes along with these sales
I'd say that depends on who it comes from. There are certain people in this thread who, frankly, have some of the lowest standards for games that I've ever seen, and keep pretending that review scores from a decade ago have any bearing on review scores today.Segata Sanshiro said:What if from here on out it's all good impressions?
Yes, the Shadow team. AKA, the original NiGHTS team.evilromero said:So this is make by the shittyass Shadow team? I now remember why I left this game for dead many moons ago.
Bringing up old review scores mainly serves to illustrate what should be an obvious point that is sadly lost entirely too often on GAF, which is that review scores aren't the sole barometer by which a game should be judged.No6 said:I'd say that depends on who it comes from. There are certain people in this thread who, frankly, have some of the lowest standards for games that I've ever seen, and keep pretending that review scores from a decade ago have any bearing on review scores today.
Either way, at this point the Nights question is no longer "is it worth $50" (no), but rather "is it worth my time to play when it hits $20" (not looking good).
All of the orginal Nights time? I thought the Shadow team had elements of the Nights team.Segata Sanshiro said:Yes, the Shadow team. AKA, the original NiGHTS team.
They're missing a few key staff members, to be sure. Yuji Naka is gone. Naoto Ohshima is gone (that's a biggie as far as I'm concerned). But they are the same team, just with eleven years worth of staff rollover.No6 said:All of the orginal Nights time? I thought the Shadow team had elements of the Nights team.
Segata Sanshiro said:They're missing a few key staff members, to be sure. Yuji Naka is gone. Naoto Ohshima is gone (that's a biggie as far as I'm concerned). But they are the same team, just with eleven years worth of staff rollover.
True, but at the same time it ignores the fact that the review industry has matured significantly from a decade ago. Saying "EGM gave the original all 8s so mid 7's is pretty good!" ignores the fact that EGM and most other review outlets now have a much broader scope of gaming history to draw upon when determining quality.Segata Sanshiro said:Bringing up old review scores mainly serves to illustrate what should be an obvious point that is sadly lost entirely too often on GAF, which is that review scores aren't the sole barometer by which a game should be judged.
Nope. Although I do think you're going to be too charitable to the game, I think you'll remain mostly rational about it. There's nothing wrong with ignoring the consensus; I have games that I enjoy despite critical crapping. However, there aren't too many of those games, because most of the time the consensus is correct. And I certainly wouldn't recommend those games to others at full price, because (especially right now) there are many, many other "consensus-approved" excellent/good games available provided you don't limit yourself to your chosen hero-company.As I'm certainly one of the gents you're pointing a finger at,
Yes, which is why it's disingenuous to say that it's the exact same team. 11 years is a long, long time in any industry, let alone the game industry which traditionally has much higher churn. And even if it was the exact same team, with the exact same people, that's still no indication of quality; Mizuguchi has lots of hits and misses.Segata Sanshiro said:They're missing a few key staff members, to be sure. Yuji Naka is gone. Naoto Ohshima is gone (that's a biggie as far as I'm concerned). But they are the same team, just with eleven years worth of staff rollover.