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Yaweee said:
Accelerators (the accelerating part and experiments, not the detector part that 'particle' or 'high-energy' physicists work on)

Competition can be really rough for Physics PhDs, and it can be pretty restrictive on where potential jobs are. I need to get the hell away from where I'm living now for my experiment.

I'd guess. The devices that require such experiments are not to be found in many institutes, What are your plans after graduation then?
 
Boozeroony said:
I'd guess. The devices that require such experiments are not to be found in many institutes, What are your plans after graduation then?

Post-graduation plans are still up in the air. Could be a lab, could be at a private company, could aim for academia. It is still too early to tell, and depends heavily on my success and record over the next two years.
 
While other are derailing the thread, let me contribute by telling you about my work.

I got my Ph.D. in fluid mechanics (turbulence) and am currently working on the role of blood flow on cardiovascular development and the role of flow in atherosclerosis.
 
swordfishtrombones said:
While other are derailing the thread, let me contribute by telling you about my work.

I got my Ph.D. in fluid mechanics (turbulence) and am currently working on the role of blood flow on cardiovascular development and the role of flow in atherosclerosis.

Nice. In a medical centre? I did some research in a department where they were also interested in the blood flow at arterial bifurcations and its relation to atherosclerogenesis. They were doing gene-expression experiments at those site, but your work is more focussed on those fluid whirls?
 
I love all things space. Science!

electricshake said:

Yep.

A billion things operate by evolution of some kind. Computer design evolves. Food recipes evolve. News evolve. Weather evolves. Games evolve while they are being developed.

It's a shame that the word is now associated so much with the debate over the theory of evolution.
 
thespot84 said:
I suppose the first discussion would be to determine gravity. The force won't come from the mass of the world, but instead the rotational/tangential acceleration, much like the station in 2001. Any physicists want to take a crack (i could but, well i'm at work and i'm lazy and just finished my first physics class)
I mean the ring worlds that they talk about as being the "only way it will work" which has been described as like a ribbon, solid, extending around THE ENTIRE STAR. It would need a dome, so think of a Halo (yes like Halo the game) but enormous, and domed, and the dome has properties that stave off radiation and can deal with meteorites.

That's the only way I've heard ring worlds will work. In order to keep an atmosphere, the thing would need the dome. In order to be habitable, for some reason it would need to be HUGE. They talk about it on an episode of Astronomycast in the episode "Future Civilizations". That's done by Fraser Cain Universe Today and Dr. Pamela L. Gay SIUE, and they are so legit and so not messing around. One of the best podcasts I listen to.
 
Boozeroony said:
Nice. In a medical centre? I did some research in a department where they were also interested in the blood flow at arterial bifurcations and its relation to atherosclerogenesis. They were doing gene-expression experiments at those site, but your work is more focussed on those fluid whirls?

I'm indeed collaborating with medical centers (they do the pathology and cell biology, I try to do the fluid mechanics). If you're at the NFI, you can probably guess what university and MCs are involved. And they're not "whirls", they are "vortices"... Well at least it's better than calling them whirlpools, as one of my colleagues keeps calling them.
 
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Jokergrin said:
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Science is awesome. I am an architect but I sometimes wished I would've studied a science degree. Astronomy, chemestry, physics, biology... that's where the important questions we need to answer lie, at least for me. I really wish we could get rid of wars and false belief and we could focus on getting to know ourselves and the Universe better.
 
SolKane said:
So is the theory of intelligent design.
It doesn't even get that honor - The most "plausible" version of what IDers are proposing would either require the admission that evolution occurred previously (for the designers) or they collapse into an infinite regress or a bare assertion.
No, ID can't even be considered a proper hypothesis because of the aforementioned issues. I'd say it's approximately at the level of "HEY GUYS WHAT IF-"
 
I studded biology. Spent years at it, then decided I either didn't like it, or not good at it or whatever. But it feels like science is a trap. My skill set is sp extremely specific, there seems little hope.

And unless you love academia, it seems job security will always be an issue.

/cynical old grump
 
swordfishtrombones said:
While other are derailing the thread, let me contribute by telling you about my work.

I got my Ph.D. in fluid mechanics (turbulence) and am currently working on the role of blood flow on cardiovascular development and the role of flow in atherosclerosis.
Heart research ftw! Ischemia-reperfusion is my thing. Any countries where the job-market for Ph.Ds is actually good?
 
This seems like a neat thread. I just graduated with my BSc in physics and astronomy and will be starting a master's in astronomy this fall. I hope to ultimately work in planetary science at JPL.
 
opticalmace said:
This seems like a neat thread. I just graduated with my BSc in physics and astronomy and will be starting a master's in astronomy this fall. I hope to ultimately work in planetary science at JPL.
It could be a neat thread. It might be too generic. There's a "Space The Final Frontier" and I could swear an amateur astronomy one.

Your area of expertise is where my heart is.

While I am here:
Why is Venus upside down and spinning backward?

Why are they holding back the information that they HAVE found life on Mars? Bacteria life but still, life. I've heard this is just matter-of-fact stuff now from so many credible sources that it's getting bananas.

Last, Europa. When are we going to Science-balls-up and put something next to a recent crack on Europa and burn/bore alllllllll the way through it, with a tether, and swim a robot around in that WATER OCEAN that covers Europa. Even if it's a nuclear device. LET'S DO IT. What is under that surface? light-sensitive upside down Banyan trees like Arthur C. Clarke thinks? Fish? ANYTHING?
 
awesomeapproved said:
Why are they holding back the information that they HAVE found life on Mars? Bacteria life but still, life. I've heard this is just matter-of-fact stuff now from so many credible sources that it's getting bananas.

The result of the tests are not conclusive although they point for the strong possibility of microbial life accouting for some of the results. Since they are inconclusive, it's expectable of NASA not to say "we have found life!".


awesomeapproved said:
Last, Europa. When are we going to Science-balls-up and put something next to a recent crack on Europa and burn/bore alllllllll the way through it, with a tether, and swim a robot around in that WATER OCEAN that covers Europa. Even if it's a nuclear device. LET'S DO IT. What is under that surface? light-sensitive upside down Banyan trees like Arthur C. Clarke thinks? Fish? ANYTHING?

If anything it will most probably be microbial life. Sunlight penetrating under the ice cover is severely reduced and a photosynthetic pathway will only be possible very close to the surface. Second, the oxigen levels in the hypothetical ocean are probably extremely low and chemosysthesis is too energy deficient for complex organisms. You can have chemosynthesis in hidrotermal vents, but the same problem (energetics) apply.
 
Kyaw said:
Science! Fuck yeah!

What are future career paths for taking Physics for College? (A-level)

Physics undergrad degrees are pretty scattered. There aren't many direct Physics jobs, but there are plenty of jobs for people with Physics degrees. At the very worst, majors have pretty much the highest success rates and average scores on the entrance exams for most possible graduate school programs (LSAT for Law, MCAT for Med, general GRE, etc.)

I've also heard the expression "It's easier to teach a physicist to program than it is to teach a programmer physics", in terms of computer jobs that have physical applications.

It's also pretty reasonable for general engineering jobs, but that depends heavily on the job market. Just make sure you get research experience ASAP while an undergraduate, either by working for a professor during the school year, or getting a summer internship.

- Among my undergraduate friends, lots of teachers, some medical physics tech work, but most went on to graduate school.

- Among my Master's friends, it's all over the place; it's enough to get tech-based jobs at National Laboratories, but there's a hard ceiling that you can't advance past without a PhD. Another friend works at a metrology company (industrial measurement equipment). Some go on to teach at community colleges

- Once you have your PhD, odds are for post-doc positions or National Laboratory jobs from the start, or a professorship at a small university, and possible better academic jobs after some time at a lab or as a post-doc. There are also potential industrial jobs, depending on what branch of Physics you did (which is only really important post PhD).


Gorgon said:
Waiting for some moneys to start my PhD. I was in one before but it borked.

What in? Any chance at a TA/RA position?

Physics/Chemistry have near 100% coverage, i.e. tuition waivers + a small (but mostly liveable) stipend.

Biology/Geology have a decent number of positions, but nowhere near full.



mrkgoo said:
I studded biology. Spent years at it, then decided I either didn't like it, or not good at it or whatever. But it feels like science is a trap. My skill set is sp extremely specific, there seems little hope.

And unless you love academia, it seems job security will always be an issue.

/cynical old grump

Some cynicism is justified. Specialize too much and you'll have problems, but specialize too little and you may also have problems. Get a good advisor that will be willing to let you diversity.

Staff positions at National Laboratories are stable, as are corporate research jobs as long as you don't have a long string of failures or long lull between between product launches.

And it also greatly depends on WHAT you specialize in, as graduate students "do what they love" rather than "what they kind of like but has good job opportunities".
 
Boozeroony said:
I am looking into shit yeah. Actually, I have been looking into many of my friends/family's shit as well. One of the things I am looking at are the similarities between parent and child when it comes to faecal bacteria.

What are you looking at in fecal flora that is compelling and differentiates it from gut flora (assume its a functional comparison) ?
 
jambo said:
That book is glorious, I really need to get around to reading it again one of these days!
That it is :) I found out about it through podcasts. For those into science/scepticism, such things are a great resource. Here are those on my list.

The Reality Check (a Canadian podcast that is heavy on humour)
Sceptic's Guide to the Universe (the definitive sceptical podcast)
Skeptoid: Critical Analysis of Pop Phenomena (short and informative)
Scepticality: Science and Revolutionary ideas (the official podcast of sceptic magazine)
Bollix! Science and Scepticism podcast (often very astronomy focussed, so good for star gazers)
Righteous Indignation - Sceptical about the Paranormal (Anglo-Centric, with a good range of interviews)
The Conspiracy Sceptic (quite specific to conspiracy theories, but good regardless)

I also recommend Brian Dunning's 'Here be Dragons' to anyone who wants a populist way to introduce friends and family to scepticism.
 
Niblet said:
What are you looking at in fecal flora that is compelling and differentiates it from gut flora (assume its a functional comparison) ?

Hard to say, as you already imply: fecal microbiome =/= intestinal microbiome.

I expect that less mucosa-associated bacteria are present in the fecal mass. Actually, most information from the gut microbiome results from fecal examination, as it is the least invasive method to examine the microbial composition of the gut.

I am looking for a set of bacterial species that are capable of discriminating the source of a fecal sample. One of the tasks is to examine which species to test for. Possibly the hardest part as well, as there are a LOT of bacterial species that are only transient and therefore fluctuate over time. On the other hand, there are species that are relatively stable, the so-called 'core microbiome'.
 
Got a PhD in Immunology, 19 months into my post-doc now. Time flies :o

Working of several somewhat unrelated projects so it's hard to summarize. It's mostly innate immunity.
 
mrkgoo said:
I studded biology. Spent years at it, then decided I either didn't like it, or not good at it or whatever. But it feels like science is a trap. My skill set is sp extremely specific, there seems little hope.

And unless you love academia, it seems job security will always be an issue.

/cynical old grump

I understand your sentiments. I felt the same when I graduated, so I decided to focus more on applied sciences. Now I am in Forensics, which is pretty fun to work in and gives you reasonable flexibility if you're willing to do some training underway.

If I want to, I can apply for a position that investigates gunshot residues, of fiber examination. Even ballistics is an option. Firing guns as a profession;).
 
OttomanScribe said:
That it is :) I found out about it through podcasts. For those into science/scepticism, such things are a great resource. Here are those on my list.

The Reality Check (a Canadian podcast that is heavy on humour)
Sceptic's Guide to the Universe (the definitive sceptical podcast)
Skeptoid: Critical Analysis of Pop Phenomena (short and informative)
Scepticality: Science and Revolutionary ideas (the official podcast of sceptic magazine)
Bollix! Science and Scepticism podcast (often very astronomy focussed, so good for star gazers)
Righteous Indignation - Sceptical about the Paranormal (Anglo-Centric, with a good range of interviews)
The Conspiracy Sceptic (quite specific to conspiracy theories, but good regardless)

I also recommend Brian Dunning's 'Here be Dragons' to anyone who wants a populist way to introduce friends and family to scepticism.

Omg thanks gonna dive right into those!
 
Corky said:
Omg thanks gonna dive right into those!
Get on it :) they are great. My favourites are probably the Reality Check and Skeptoid.

Maybe but not wholly because Jon from TRC actually answered an email I sent *blushes* lol.
 
awesomeapproved said:
Why are they holding back the information that they HAVE found life on Mars? Bacteria life but still, life. I've heard this is just matter-of-fact stuff now from so many credible sources that it's getting bananas.

I've always figured there is life on Mars. Microbacterial life.

It came from Earth on our probes.

Basically what I'm saying is that we created aliens and it'll just take a few billion years for them to call home.
 
Perhaps this would be a great thread to ask this in -

Can I get any insight regarding the practical usage of a bachelor's degree in cellular biology or some other comparative degree? OP seems like he'd know a thing or two about this.

I'm still getting my basic educational courses out of the way and wavering pretty drastically about my intended major.
 
meadowrag said:
Perhaps this would be a great thread to ask this in -

Can I get any insight regarding the practical usage of a bachelor's degree in cellular biology or some other comparative degree? OP seems like he'd know a thing or two about this.

I'm still getting my basic educational courses out of the way and wavering pretty drastically about my intended major.

Practical usage? As in job?
 
Wow biological sciences are pretty damn popular in this thread ...

Screw your cells and your living things, anyone here a material scientist? We deal with atoms, crystalline structures, thermodynamics, quantum chemistry, advanced ceramics, polymers, metal alloys, glasses, semi conductors, superconductors, all the different composites, tribology, carbon fibers, nanotechnology, surface science ... and I'm barely scratching the surface.

Anyone else a material scientist? I doubt it ... for such a huge important influential field, no ones heard of it and yet anything you use, anything you buy, any advances in technology, it all stems from material scientists.

We make cars lighter, stronger and more efficient through use of new metallic alloys, composites, stronger tougher materials. Shit diesel engines would still be dirty as hell if material scientists hadn't of developed the piezoelectric materials used in the fuel injectors. We made electric cars viable by developing better magnets to make more powerful efficient smaller electric motors.

We made smart phones smaller, lighter and better by developing super tough thin scratch resistant glass, more efficient highly tunable antennas ceramics, smaller better semiconductors for lower voltage faster processors.

We've revolutionized the medical field from medical scanning by developing high temperature super conductors to power the high powered magnets to incredible tough durable inert prosthetics from hip joints to knee joints.

You been to the dentist recently and got a shiny new filling or tooth that is indistinguishable from your others? That's material scientists developing glass ionomer cement that not only is chemically inert, tough enough to sustain wear and tear and visually indistinguishable from your other teeth through surface shine and colour ... but we also made them so they can be prepared, placed, molded and set by any dentist within an appointment slot so you can go home half an hour later.

Not to mention any building your in has steel developed, cast, refined and processed by a material scientist. The cement used to lay foundations has come from a material scientists who designed it to set within a certain time, be strong and weather proof. To the perfectly flat, transparent plate glass windows developed by material scientists.

Material science is everywhere ...

/rant
 
meadowrag said:
Yeah, career-oriented question.
Sorry.

Well it depends. If you want to stop there, it's going to be tough, although I'm not sure how it works in the US.
Research labs are looking for grad students/post-docs mostly; in industry it might be easier but you better get some solid lab experience beforehand.

Casp0r said:
Wow biological sciences are pretty damn popular in this thread ...

[...]

Material science is everywhere ...

/rant

We improve health and save lives :p
 
Casp0r said:
Material science is everywhere ...

/rant

I have a background in material science but switched tracks to industrial design.
Made me hate my life less, but I still hate everything.
 
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