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[John Harker]

I highly doubt it will be weaker than the 360.

I mean, the GC came out much, much smaller than the PS2 in about the same time difference as PS2-GC as 360-Rev and the GC is noticably more powerful than PS2.
Sure, toe-to-toe with the PS3 it will lose, as GC did toe-to-toe with Xbox, but if history is any indication (Anyone else noticing Nintendo is doing basically the same thing, over and over again, just with a cooler shell? Which that intself will make a huge difference, in my opinion anyway) it'll be in the middle in terms of raw power again, PLUS all their "new revolutionary ideas." I mean, look how small the PSslim got and it isn't weaker than PS2.

The Rev isn't all that smaller than GC anyway. If it is 3 DVD cases stacked, it may be an inch or two smaller in height, but longer in length. So it isn't leaps and bounds smaller, it just look more sleek and slick so it is perceived as much smaller. It isn't a toy, its tech.

Plus, it doesn't have a handle in the back to add to its size, and les ports in back too, and doesn't have the broad band adapter and serial ports slots on the bottom and stuff. That is all wasted GC space. If you trim the GC, it's pretty damn frickin' small and still more powerful than PS2.

We can expect this again..... just sexier.

So my vote is just as if not more powerful - PLUS ALL THE NEW FEATURES - over the 360. (Well, and PS3 will sit on it)

 

[Spike]

To be totally honest, who gives a shit? The only system I'll be buying is the Revolution next gen, so I don't really care how powerful it is compared to the other systems. I like Nintendo franchises like Zelda/Metroid/Mario and I can only get those on Nintendo systems.

 

[Amir0x]

To be totally honest, who gives a shit? The only system I'll be buying is the Revolution next gen, so I don't really care how powerful it is compared to the other systems. I like Nintendo franchises like Zelda/Metroid/Mario and I can only get those on Nintendo systems.

so... should we be expecting more crazy rants about the bad state of the gaming industry and how developers are totally hatin' Nintendo's game from you next-gen?

 

[Spike]

so... should we be expecting more crazy rants about the bad state of the gaming industry and how developers are totally hatin' Nintendo's game from you next-gen?

WTF?!?! Do you have me mixed up with someone else perhaps?

 

[DrGAKMAN]

You make some interesting points, but innovative gameplay and great production values don't have to be mutually exclusive. Just because Nintendo executives focus on innovation when they talk about the Revolution doesn't mean the console won't be capable of some astonishing visuals. The company views increased horespower as merely the entry point for the next generation, something to be assumed. That's why it's not brought up often.

A reader wrote in asking why Nintendo hypes up innovation instead of graphics 'cos the most hyped GCN games this year are ones with good graphics (RE4 & LOZ). Well there's the answer. Nintendo believes that graphics naturally jump every generation...it's a give in. However, before Revolution was even announced Nintendo has stood by a next generation way of playing games...not just next generation graphics. That's NOT to say that it's either one or the other, it's more to say that graphics will go thru a natural evolution from generation to generation, but Nintendo wants a REVOLUTION in the way games are played. Why? NES = revolution, SNES = evolution, N64 = revolution, GCN = evolution...you get the point. In the past competitors have always pounded the evolution of graphics into our skulls as a way to sell thier systems, Nintendo believes that graphical evolution is to be assumed and are instead looking for a new way to sell their next system besides just graphics.

 

[Firest0rm]

Q: Is Revolution "two-to-three times more powerful than GameCube?


A: USA Today reported this news based on a comment from Nintendo of America's vice president of corporate affairs, Perrin Kaplan. The information was later determined to be false. We do not yet know how much more power Revolution wields over its predecessor.

From IGN's updated Revolution FAQ

 

[lexi]

From IGN's updated Revolution FAQ

 

[John Harker]

I don't know why everyone was so dissapointed hearing, even if it isnt true, that Rev would be three times the power of GC. I mean, what if they didn't mean strictly raw power, but actual, functional strength? Meaning, Rev games in play would be three times those seen on GC.

You would be VERY hard pressed to convince me that the 360 games I played at E3 were more than directly "three times" more powerful/better than Xbox games. Some of them I couldn't even tell the difference, if the controller I was looking at wasnt white!
They look like glorified 3rd generation Xbox games, most of the vids I saw. Sure, not all of them, but most. And if you see Gears of War, that to me looks about 2X - double - current Xbox games, not "magnitues" better. They are just talking about processing numbers and crap, Nintendo doesn't do that, they prolly mean how games would actually appear/look/play etc, which three times to me is pretty impressive in itself.
Wouldn't you say GC over N64 was only like 2-3 times?

So its a pretty standard leap if you ask me.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

If Nintendo was really done with GC before or the same time Sony was done with PS2's hardware, then why did Nintendo announce one set of specs in 2000 and then announce that the GPU had been downgraded in May 2001?

 

[Firest0rm]

If Nintendo was really done with GC before or the same time Sony was done with PS2's hardware, then why did Nintendo announce one set of specs in 2000 and then announce that the GPU had been downgraded in May 2001?

For efficiency, they brought down the GPU and brought up the CPU.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

Common sense should of told you guys that. Why would Perrin Kaplan make a comment like that to the press. I continued to posed the question to you guys, and you didn't give it a thought.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

I don't know why everyone was so dissapointed hearing, even if it isnt true, that Rev would be three times the power of GC. I mean, what if they didn't mean strictly raw power, but actual, functional strength? Meaning, Rev games in play would be three times those seen on GC.

You would be VERY hard pressed to convince me that the 360 games I played at E3 were more than directly "three times" more powerful/better than Xbox games. Some of them I couldn't even tell the difference, if the controller I was looking at wasnt white!
They look like glorified 3rd generation Xbox games, most of the vids I saw. Sure, not all of them, but most. And if you see Gears of War, that to me looks about 2X - double - current Xbox games, not "magnitues" better. They are just talking about processing numbers and crap, Nintendo doesn't do that, they prolly mean how games would actually appear/look/play etc, which three times to me is pretty impressive in itself.
Wouldn't you say GC over N64 was only like 2-3 times?

So its a pretty standard leap if you ask me.

Well the 360 games weren't running on final hardware, and the real devkits won't be out until July.

 

[Gahiggidy]

Uh oh, look what I found....

President Iwata: "The Revolution is 3 times more powerful than..."

 

[John Harker]

Uh oh, look what I found....

President Iwata: "The Revolution is 3 times more powerful than..."

... the human brain!

 

[Shaheed79]

From IGN's updated Revolution FAQ

I love it when I'm vindicated. Not that Rev isn't just 2-3x more powerful but that Perrin is an idiot when it comes to being tech savvy. I hope Perrin learns from this incident to keep her big trap the fuck shut when someone asks here a technology question.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Well the 360 games weren't running on final hardware, and the real devkits won't be out until July.

And the Revolution hardware isn't finalized.

Damn, I guess Specs-Age will have to wait for the spec-wars until further notice.

 

[Particle Physicist]

i just remembered something. didnt ati leak that both nintendo and microsoft had about the same budget for the dev of their chips??

that should assuage the minds of people that think this will just be a GC 1.2

anyone have a link to that story?

 

[Ulairi]

i just remembered something. didnt ati leak that both nintendo and microsoft had about the same budget for the dev of their chips??

that should assuage the minds of people that think this will just be a GC 1.2

anyone have a link to that story?

I believe it was in a confrence call talking about their numbers/future business.

 

[jarrod]

i just remembered something. didnt ati leak that both nintendo and microsoft had about the same budget for the dev of their chips??

Yep. And given the extra performance Moore's law should yield from a 6-8 month advance after 360, plus Nintendo having (unquestionably) the more talented ATi team on their chip... something tells me Revolution won't be lacking compared to the competition. It'll be less DS/PSP and more GC/PS2 in that sense.