CyberPunked
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dees graffiks tho
And with 4xMSAA! So hype
The Order 1886 Gamescom Gameplay Trailer
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And with 4xMSAA! So hype
Fair enough. As a collective, this franchise is considered a triumph so no problem with some having a different opinion. Some would say "this franchise is the best ever" and some would say "its 7/10 at best". The vast majority though will disagree with you and we don't need to have the same opinion. That would make threads boring.
SniperHunter
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hahaha nice
LegendofDragoonLives
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Do you mind repeating it a few more times how your opinion that goes against most gamers and critics is somehow of more value? Are you not getting enough attention at home that you throw this shit constantly to get a reaction?
You mention this almost every time Uncharted is added into a discussion, if you're not of course the one starting it. Would like to tell us more preferences of popular games that aren't that good, just get it out in 1 post and then try to not mention it for 3 weeks. My guess is you can't do it.
ProfessorMoran
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The order gameplay looks more like gears than uncharted, whether it's the control scheme or just how heavy the movements look, the gunplay is not super accurate or snappy.
Acquiescence
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That's interactive as well. People know this, right? Like the footage where Galahad prises the lid off of the wooden crate, picks up the gun and rotates it in his hands, I imagine the player is able do a similar thing with that Tesla contraption.
RustyNails
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Uncharted is not only regarded as fun, but it's also critically acclaimed. I understand your point, but for me, there has to be a correlation between fun and good gameplay. I don't see a franchise with bad gameplay get the praise or provide the enjoyment Uncharted does.
For me, Uncharted is among the most fun and varied third TPS around.
SniperHunter
Banned
Why I think Uncharted is a 7/10 series:
-Too much trial and error involved at times (horse chase sequence at the end of Uncharted 3. truck chase in Uncharted 2 etc)
-too cinematic which diminishes replay value
-enclosed environment and minimal exploration
Both Uncharted 2 and 3 were 7/10 worthy, Uncharted 1 was ok and GA was garbage
-Too much trial and error involved at times (horse chase sequence at the end of Uncharted 3. truck chase in Uncharted 2 etc)
-too cinematic which diminishes replay value
-enclosed environment and minimal exploration
Both Uncharted 2 and 3 were 7/10 worthy, Uncharted 1 was ok and GA was garbage
I would say 4/10 Gunplay.
Bulletsponge should never ever be in any shooter...ever.
Now LoU = 10/10 Gunplay, how they went from Uncharted to this beast is an achievement on itself.
Fuck that noise. TloU has good gameplay and shooting, the UC series has always been an average shooter at best. And what puzzles? I don't think the series has one actual puzzle, they are always just good looking pacing tools where you carry something to somewhere or activate cool looking ancient devices and cool shit happens.
I played all three of them and in every one I got fatigued of the encounters because the mechanics just aren't that deep or interesting. But the presentation made it worth to go through them once.
I would gladly discuss this with you because I love the franchise, but we are derailing from this thread, so next time I guess.
Skinny Pete
Banned
dees graffiks tho
Wow. The future is looking very bright graphics wise. Unreal.
SniperHunter
Banned
dees graffiks tho
great graphics engine for sure
Massively disagree with you here, and even though my post is comparing the game to Tomb Raider, I think it details what makes Uncharteds combat so engaging, diverse and fun, and it's namely to do with the mobility options and degree of dynamism.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=120771382&postcount=618
On a side note, we're getting way off topic now.
Ughh. Serious derail. Can't believe the merits of Uncharted series are being argued again even in this thread.
Anyways I have faith Rad will deliver a great product the demo that was at Gamescom was from gdc meaning we haven't seen a newer build and the game is some ways off.
Anyways I have faith Rad will deliver a great product the demo that was at Gamescom was from gdc meaning we haven't seen a newer build and the game is some ways off.
TheOctodad
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TheSpaceBetween
Member
Oh so we're talking about God of War, Uncharted, and a Canadian turd now. Alright then...
I always have to shake my head when I hear people say things like this. Apparently his lead design work on GOW, GOWII, and GOWIII mean absolutely nothing.
I find it hard to believe you could go through U3, the first half of which you probably spend more time doing puzzles than anything else, and say the series doesn't have any puzzles.
I always have to shake my head when I hear people say things like this. Apparently his lead design work on GOW, GOWII, and GOWIII mean absolutely nothing.
I find it hard to believe you could go through U3, the first half of which you probably spend more time doing puzzles than anything else, and say the series doesn't have any puzzles.
I meant in the traditional sense. Like idle Galahad doing a camera pan during gameplay.
- trial and error has never been an issue for me but i'll take your word for it. hopefully its more than just a horse section though cuz that's a very minor complaint.
- not everything is meant to be played over and over. tons of genres don't have replay value and aren't supposed to. if anything, i'm amazed at how much i've enjoyed replaying UC games.
- it's not an open world game. you might as well complain that it's not a dating simulator.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, nothing really looks out of place in that gif...Very impressive.
martino
Member
There is a lot of thing that are acclaimed because they do things very well and others well enougth and Uncharted is certainly not aclaimed for everything it does.
An extreme exemple of current case will be last telltate games. they are critically acclaimed but they have poor gameplay.
What you find fun is the whole package...
Uncharted copy carbon gameplay with bad graphic and bad storry telling won't have the same perception on everyone. That's for sure
And i'm pretty confident even you who seems to be a huge fan can find it boring with thoses changes
Cinematographic games keep on setting the trend for now...but they keep weak spots even if they don't really matter to most.
"Too cineamtic?"
If anything that is a huge replay point of value for me. I love to revist the setpieces, the desert, etc. Too cinematic? Pft...
TheOctodad
Member
SniperHunter, so we have reference, can we please get a list of your top 5 favorite games of all time?
Read my post again. The puzzles are just time killers, not actual puzzles.
SniperHunter
Banned
1.) Battlefield 1942
2.) Half Life 2
3.) Halo CE
4.) Jak 3
5.) Red Faction Guerrilla
They're more than time-killers but not actual puzzles. They're pseudo-puzzles to help the player believe that they're actually in an ancient temple or whatever with carefully guarded secrets. Uncharted is not a puzzle game, or even a Zelda game. It's an Indiana Jones game, and the "puzzles" are simply intended to sell the environment, not to be difficult.
Mechanics should always service the level design and tone of the game. It is the marriage of the two that determines the greatness of the game. Silent Hill 2's gameplay taken in isolation has crappier melee than Godhand, Crappier shooting than any shooter you would see. Objectively worse camera control than most games. Yet it's mechanics perfectly serve it's tone and level design. All elements together make a game. You might as well say Resident Evil or Silent Hill with same gameplay but bad story telling, atmosphere, and graphics would not have the same perception. That is a pointless argument to make.
I would be lying if I said that characters, entertaining storytelling and the overall production values aren't big part of why people (myself included) find the franchise appealing, but like I said, for me the core gameplay is great mainly because its offers great movility and diversity.
The first shooting segment in UC3's ship graveyard alone is more varied and dynamic than most TPS's out there.
Anyway... I've been way off topic here, so I'll retire from this convo.
Yes, it's the best looking 800P game I've seen to date.
CyberPunked
Member
1920x800, so equivalent to 1080p IQ wise.
But breh.. the games on your list aren't even original. All the devs did was iterate on other game studios formulas. Hell, none of the ips listed are great by any stretch. All those games are 7/10 at best. Here is why I think these games are no better than 7/10:
- They're all garbage
- Trolling
- Shitposting
Oh god, here we go.
This post just makes it sound like you're upset that people are allowed to have opinions.
There's nothing wrong with someone disliking Uncharted as long as they say why, which he did.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Seriously? What new brand of tomfoolery is this?
I am upset at the stupidity that people get away with.
Edit: Anyone can troll a thread and then when they get called out on it try to legitimize it with: "but guys my opinions are totally valid because of this list of reasons"
TheJollyCorner
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hey guys.... about that Uncharted series.....!
This. It's idiotic to say that being cinematic decreases replayability. That's why nobody buys dvds and blu-rays or rewatches movies whenever they happen to be on TV right?
TheSpaceBetween
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They are puzzles, period. They require logic and some experimentation to solve. They are extensions of puzzle types that have been in video games for ages including spacial, shape/pattern memorization, switch pushing, visual, book reference, etc. These are textbook examples of video game puzzles if I've ever seen them. You can call them time killers if you want, but they are still puzzles.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
people make a few mediocre-to-decent PSP games and people start treatin them like they're fuckin' Valve Software...
No, that's exactly why they aren't Valve. RaD actually make games.
Oh oh