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The Passion Recut - release 3/11, 500-750 theatres
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robertsan21
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Meier said:
old news but man who cares!
i used to love Mel until he decided to earn money on something that other people have been tricked in to believing"the bible"
the bible is fiction.
its sad to see him try to make more money out of this pice of crap movie.
the first version was more than enough
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Escape Goat
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robertsan21 said:
Just at tip but you may want to look up the word "Bible" in the dictionary.
robertsan21
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Teh Hamburglar said:
hahah i wrote bibel "thats how you spell it in swedish" i mixed them up sorry
bob_arctor
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I wonder if they'd ever release a blooper reel for this flick. I imagine it'd probably be as funny as Chappelle's "Roots" bloopers.
Drensch said:
I know what you mean man lol. One of my family members rented the film and gave it to me to watch and I was shocked this thing didn't get a NC-17 rating. I think the religious bias in the gov allowed this ultra violent garbage to get out in the public. There wasn't even any story. It was just an hour or two of ultra slow motion beatings which you would think I would like since I'm into gore but I didn't.
DonasaurusRex
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damn i might be able to stomach watching it again now finally...
Ninja Scooter
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so its basically "The Passion-Pussified Edition"?
DonasaurusRex
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He's a special ex turbo world warrior ed fool
DonasaurusRex
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..Yeah well ..yeah the ass beating was confirmed even from secular sources....
Whatever. The Romans(and that's who killed Jesus, not the Jews, folks) beat the shit out of and killed LOTS of people. The law of averages said they were gonna get the Son of God at one point or another.
Look, the Romans were fucked up. Sometimes when I think America is awful, I just smile and remember the Romans. Caligula fucking anything that moves then having it killed, naming his horse pro-Consul of Rome, ordering his soldiers to take sea shells off the beach and calling it "treasure from Briton", then Nero doing his famous "Well Rome sure wasn't built in a day but I BURNED it in a night" fiddle performance, the orgies, the vomitoriums... on our worst day, we're only half as bad as the Romans. Without the neo-Cons in power, we'd only be 1/4 as bad as the Romans. Those people were fucked in the head.
Look, the Romans were fucked up. Sometimes when I think America is awful, I just smile and remember the Romans. Caligula fucking anything that moves then having it killed, naming his horse pro-Consul of Rome, ordering his soldiers to take sea shells off the beach and calling it "treasure from Briton", then Nero doing his famous "Well Rome sure wasn't built in a day but I BURNED it in a night" fiddle performance, the orgies, the vomitoriums... on our worst day, we're only half as bad as the Romans. Without the neo-Cons in power, we'd only be 1/4 as bad as the Romans. Those people were fucked in the head.
robertsan21 said:
Please do impart some more of the infinite wisdom you've gleaned from...being a model.
I've never seen "The Passion", btw. I guess I just resent it a bit when a person who likely hasn't critically examined these matters for himself tells me that I've been "tricked" into believing something. Let me ask you something, robertsan, banger of hot chicks: Who do you believe would be more susceptible to chicanery-- you or I?
Think before you speak next time. Let it be known that I take no issue with rational disagreement with the notion of God's existence or the veracity of specific religious ideologies, provided that I feel a person has adequately examined the relevant issues; this is why you'll never see me snipe like this at Drinky, or Hito, or xsarien, or -jinx-. But quite frankly, you've never shown me any proof that there's anything substantial going on in that head of yours, so forgive me if I view your comments the same way I would if they came from a child. In other words: stick to what you know. You've likely spent more time on your hair than you have examining these issues-- and there's nothing wrong with that. At all. It becomes somewhat farcical, however, when you then try to lecture people on anything other than which pomade to use.
I wouldn't lecture you on which way to point your head in order to minimize glare for your photo-ops; please return the courtesy and don't make silly comments about how others have been "tricked". It's indecorous.
ManaByte
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Official site is now up with a video introduction by Mel Gibson where he explains it's about five minutes shorter but still a hard film:
http://www.passionrecut.com/
They even cut a new trailer for the re-release. The trailer has one shot of Judas I don't remember from the original release (need to watch it again to be sure), so it's possible Gibson slipped in a new shot or two in addition to cutting it down.
http://www.passionrecut.com/
They even cut a new trailer for the re-release. The trailer has one shot of Judas I don't remember from the original release (need to watch it again to be sure), so it's possible Gibson slipped in a new shot or two in addition to cutting it down.
crisdecuba
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I think this is a good thing, though. My mother, for example, would probably have had a heart-attack if she saw the original scourging scene. This would perhaps be a version she can see.
~Cris
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Is this movie really that great? I have a friend who's real religious and when I, and some of my other friends, declined an invitation to go see it with him in the theaters he took great offense. We've opted out of other movies before but for some reason he got heated and as he slammed the car door said, "We go and see stupid shit like Tuxedo all the time, but now that a good movie's out no one wants to go see it!"
Personally, anything religious is a turn off for me. Then again, so is anything that for the most part involves groups of people.
Edit: I took it to heart when he called Tuxedo "stupid shit" BTW.
Personally, anything religious is a turn off for me. Then again, so is anything that for the most part involves groups of people.
Edit: I took it to heart when he called Tuxedo "stupid shit" BTW.
Kabuki Waq
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COCKLES said:
wow just wow.
Drozmight said:
I'm religious, and I'd like to say that it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. It's like a tie between The Passion of The Christ and Coffee & Cigarettes. While the later of the two was just boring, the former is just horrifyingly bad cinema. The following is why.
Jeez, I don't even know where to start... okay, let's start with little details and then move up. Some parts of the movie just don't make any fucking sense. There's no purpose in having demon children crawl out of Satan's coat and attack Judas. I'm not exactly sure what a blue, fuzzy ton-ton roasting in the sun had to do with Judas killing himself. And why WHY WHY WHY, Mel Gibson, did you have Jesus fall down with the cross NO LESS THAN 8 TIMES. It makes no fucking sense. It killed the dramatic moment after the third time. It was absolutely ridiculous.
Jim Cavaizel's acting has to be some of the poorest acting in movie history. Perhaps this was Mel Gibson's directing, but every line with Jesus went something like this:
Authoritarian figure asks a question. Jesus does not answer, he is looking down, somewhat perturbed. Authoritarian figure demands that Jesus answer. Jesus slowly looks up at him, spouts a Bible verse, and is taken away. That's it. Every single fucking dialogue is like that.
When you can understand the dialogue, that is. I have no problem with subtitled movies. Sometimes, I think that subtitling a movie makes it better, and makes it a treat to watch. But when you subtitle a movie, ESPECIALLY a movie with such an intricate language as Arabian, you have to subtitle the ENTIRE movie! Which Passion simply doesn't do. At some points, you'll be wondering what the Pharisees are yelling, but you will never know. Because they didn't subtitle it. This was not a deliberate choice. Mel Gibson didn't want to thrust the audience into a state of confusion- this was simply bad filmmaking.
The editing in Passion is laughable to say the least. Do you remember the old 1950s black-and-white horror films, where the actors would finish their dialogue and sit on screen for a good 2 seconds? Yep, it's back, only now it's in color and cost millions of dollars to make. I shit you not, I remember a scene where Mary is center frame for 5 seconds, no dialogue, doing absolutely nothing, and then it cuts back.
The R rating bends the limits of proper cinema. It encouraged people to not only sneak in kids, but it made cinemas allow minors into R rated films to avoid being label as "anti-Christian."
And the gore. The gore was the worst part. Now, I'm not opposed to splatter flicks. Some of the greatest horror films of all time were extremely gory flicks like Dawn of the Dead (the original). But the gore in Passion had two very big problems. The first problem is that the gore makeup is absolutely terrible. It's too... meaty. It looks like raw meat mixed with Prego. This is a constant throughout the whole film.
The second, it just has way too much. I understand that Mel Gibson wanted to show how much Christ suffered during his execution, but he made it over the top. Examples include the blood jet when he was stabbed in the side, the ripping of his ripcage, the closeup of the thorn digging into his forehead.... I could go on and on.
Jim Cavaizel's acting has to be some of the poorest acting in movie history. Perhaps this was Mel Gibson's directing, but every line with Jesus went something like this:
Authoritarian figure asks a question. Jesus does not answer, he is looking down, somewhat perturbed. Authoritarian figure demands that Jesus answer. Jesus slowly looks up at him, spouts a Bible verse, and is taken away. That's it. Every single fucking dialogue is like that.
When you can understand the dialogue, that is. I have no problem with subtitled movies. Sometimes, I think that subtitling a movie makes it better, and makes it a treat to watch. But when you subtitle a movie, ESPECIALLY a movie with such an intricate language as Arabian, you have to subtitle the ENTIRE movie! Which Passion simply doesn't do. At some points, you'll be wondering what the Pharisees are yelling, but you will never know. Because they didn't subtitle it. This was not a deliberate choice. Mel Gibson didn't want to thrust the audience into a state of confusion- this was simply bad filmmaking.
The editing in Passion is laughable to say the least. Do you remember the old 1950s black-and-white horror films, where the actors would finish their dialogue and sit on screen for a good 2 seconds? Yep, it's back, only now it's in color and cost millions of dollars to make. I shit you not, I remember a scene where Mary is center frame for 5 seconds, no dialogue, doing absolutely nothing, and then it cuts back.
The R rating bends the limits of proper cinema. It encouraged people to not only sneak in kids, but it made cinemas allow minors into R rated films to avoid being label as "anti-Christian."
And the gore. The gore was the worst part. Now, I'm not opposed to splatter flicks. Some of the greatest horror films of all time were extremely gory flicks like Dawn of the Dead (the original). But the gore in Passion had two very big problems. The first problem is that the gore makeup is absolutely terrible. It's too... meaty. It looks like raw meat mixed with Prego. This is a constant throughout the whole film.
The second, it just has way too much. I understand that Mel Gibson wanted to show how much Christ suffered during his execution, but he made it over the top. Examples include the blood jet when he was stabbed in the side, the ripping of his ripcage, the closeup of the thorn digging into his forehead.... I could go on and on.
AND THE WORST PART is the milking he did of the movie. Not only did he distribute the film with a movie companion, for extra money!, he had the gaul to make tons of money making merchandise! He did one of the worst things I can think of- Mel Gibson sold out his beliefs to make a buck.
Shame on Mel Gibson for re-releasing Passion.
ManaByte
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Dude, you don't need to spoiler tag anything about this movie. I think most people know how it plays out.
Uh, firstly the movie is is Aramaic, Hebrew, and "street" Latin. There's not a word of "Arabian" spoken in the entire thing. It's spoken in the languages that were used at the time, and Mel Gibson originally didn't want to subtitle it at all. He knew the target audience knew the story well enough that he didn't want to include any subtitles, but somewhere along the line someone convinced him to include them.
You can thank its content and the MPAA for the R rating. In fact, if this was any other movie not creating a Passion Play, it would be NC-17.
On the same note, rumor has it the recut version would've got a PG-13 - if it wasn't dealing with religious tones.
Just as the director of Constantine. It doesn't matter about the content of your film, if you deal with religious tones these days you instantly get an R from the MPAA.
Hm...lets see. They released the movie on DVD and video. Oh that's so evil. They released the score (which was nominated for an academy award). That's wrong too. Then there were two CDs of gospel/Christian music. There was also a hardcover coffee table book released well before the movie.
The biggest piece of evil merchandise is a church resource DVD Icon productions put together for churches to use during worship services with video, stills, powerpoint presentations, and other useful things. They are using the popularity and word of mouth over the movie to get people more involved with their church and there is nothing wrong with that. On a side note, the church resource DVD also gives the church who orders it the license to do a free public screening of The Passion of the Christ.
Oh and shame on ABC for getting advertising money every single Easter for airing The Ten Commandments.
Jim Bowie said:
Uh, firstly the movie is is Aramaic, Hebrew, and "street" Latin. There's not a word of "Arabian" spoken in the entire thing. It's spoken in the languages that were used at the time, and Mel Gibson originally didn't want to subtitle it at all. He knew the target audience knew the story well enough that he didn't want to include any subtitles, but somewhere along the line someone convinced him to include them.
Jim Bowie said:
You can thank its content and the MPAA for the R rating. In fact, if this was any other movie not creating a Passion Play, it would be NC-17.
On the same note, rumor has it the recut version would've got a PG-13 - if it wasn't dealing with religious tones.
Just as the director of Constantine. It doesn't matter about the content of your film, if you deal with religious tones these days you instantly get an R from the MPAA.
Jim Bowie said:
Hm...lets see. They released the movie on DVD and video. Oh that's so evil. They released the score (which was nominated for an academy award). That's wrong too. Then there were two CDs of gospel/Christian music. There was also a hardcover coffee table book released well before the movie.
The biggest piece of evil merchandise is a church resource DVD Icon productions put together for churches to use during worship services with video, stills, powerpoint presentations, and other useful things. They are using the popularity and word of mouth over the movie to get people more involved with their church and there is nothing wrong with that. On a side note, the church resource DVD also gives the church who orders it the license to do a free public screening of The Passion of the Christ.
Oh and shame on ABC for getting advertising money every single Easter for airing The Ten Commandments.
Zelda-Bitch
Member
Christ is so over-rated.
Most of us seek our spirituality through profit anyways. Why not profit off of other people's spirituality?
It's really no different then re-releasing a christmas-themed movie during christmas or an academy award winner after the awards.
This is just one of the first "Easter" movies ever made .... so it does make sense.
Why the fuck do you care if Bobby Joe from Bible Belt, Texas and his congregation pays to see this movie again? What's your fucking hangup?
It's really no different then re-releasing a christmas-themed movie during christmas or an academy award winner after the awards.
This is just one of the first "Easter" movies ever made .... so it does make sense.
Why the fuck do you care if Bobby Joe from Bible Belt, Texas and his congregation pays to see this movie again? What's your fucking hangup?
Lucky Forward
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ManaByte said:
Don't forget about the complete line-up of share-the-passion jewelry:
http://www.sharethepassionofthechrist.com/index.htm
SteveMeister
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I have just as much interest in seeing this re-release as I did in seeing the original.
That is to say, none.
That is to say, none.
I really don't get the allure of this film. Jesus must be scratching his benevolent head.
"These sick bastards PAID to watch me getting beaten for an hour? Can't they be...I dunno', starting a youth group or something."
I'm not the most devout religious individual, but isn't Jesus more about the good he did on this earth and after rather than the horror of his death? We needn't see it in gruesome detail to understand the sacrifice. But this has all been said before and is merely my opinion...
"These sick bastards PAID to watch me getting beaten for an hour? Can't they be...I dunno', starting a youth group or something."
I'm not the most devout religious individual, but isn't Jesus more about the good he did on this earth and after rather than the horror of his death? We needn't see it in gruesome detail to understand the sacrifice. But this has all been said before and is merely my opinion...
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