And why did you never mention Stan btw? He would have to be lying just as much as me?or Fear Factor
And why did you never mention Stan btw? He would have to be lying just as much as me?or Fear Factor
Stepping in real fast because this is partially my fault, but I need to clarify that the flavor in the Day 1 post is just that: Flavor.
The relevant bits are either in potential PMs (which, as per usual rules, you may not directly quote), or highlighted in the opening post.
That is all, sorry for the confusion. Carry on!
Black is whiteMODKILL: Blargonaut
Ok, joking aside, i think we should stop playing 'find the Xbox' until we actually find out what the prizes even do.
Baring in mind the stupidity of Blarg's arguments, this is an overwhelmingly neutral response.
Kyan is anyone anything other than a null read to you?
Careful, that last line was almost an opinion
Since the questionnaire was such a raging success in Danny Phantom, I have developed the next step in Mafia analysis...MAFIA RORSCHACH. This scientifically proven method will allow us to determine who the bad guys are.
What is the first thing that comes to your mind, if you look at this picture?
What is the first thing that comes to your mind, if you look at this picture?
We're almost done. One last picture. What is the first thing that comes to your mind, if you look at this picture? Remember that there are no right or wrong answers.
D1 lynch is typically someone who's thrown under the bus at the last second. Usually for the crimes of "fluff posting" or "inactivity."
I'm saying instead of wasting D1 on lynching someone who won't give us information. We should just target Blarg.
And scummy AF?
Please.
No scum player has the balls to push a lynch, 8 hours into D1.
Kark decided to (effectively) RNG a lynch target. Chaos ensued in the process.
We "democratically" decided who to use my D1 override on....via plinko.
im good thanks, been a nice relaxing day, followed by a momentary panick over just how much i might have missed. turns out alot but not really anything.
favorite game show? well i doubt you've ever seen it, but a show called 7 days, NZ game show that basically has random teams of notable comedians riffing on current events through a paper thin game show disguise.
I should mention that i have never seen a single episode of the Price is Right. im determined to wear that ignorance proudly.
blarg is being blarg, surprise surprise. Dragonz made a supposed scumtell but im not sold on it. Splinters maybe going overboard on it but eh, what else ya gonna do?
plinko looked fun, shame i missed it.
how are you?
Baring in mind the stupidity of Blarg's arguments, this is an overwhelmingly neutral response.
Kyan is anyone anything other than a null read to you?
Well, either we are gonna go for an advanced degree in Understanding Blarg or we might as well policy lynch. Because if not, whining about him certainly will not get anything straight forward from him.Careful, that last line was almost an opinion
That's also the second person to use the "Blarg being Blarg" excuse. Not a fan
Really interested in hearing about your theory and methodology on RNG and target selection probability.
Your RNG, yes.
How did you RNG a vote on Oceanic? What method did you use?
And how do you figure Blarg has a 50/50 chance of flipping scum?
I want the specifics.
Yes or no questions? What?
You told us specifically that there's a 50% chance Blarg is scum. I want you to show the work for that oddly specific claim.
To elaborate on that note about Kawl:
Dusk posts some questionable logic.
Kawl dismisses it. Dusk's post wasn't awful but I'm more on board with Kawl here.
Dusk makes the aforementioned scummy as hell post. "Don't over think", "50/50 scum", "Listen to me so you don't suck like you usually do"
Now here's where Kawl loses me:
Doesn't seem to have a problem with the scumminess of Dusk's post, but instead doubles down on defending Blarg.
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Also on Dusk's scummy post, I must have misread before because I didn't realise he's advocating against lynching inactives on day 1. Lol at that
Inactive partners dusk?
I agree with your points on Dusk there Splinter but I'm having trouble seeing Kawl playing Defend the Blarg. It seemed to me he was simply stating don't overthink whatever Blarg does, something people have a habit of doing that just ends up taking time.
Dusk is scummy af though
Yeah, Dusk that 50/50 scum for Blarg is odd, which you still haven't explained. Also, pushing for a lynch before everybody has checked in any meaningful fashion is kinda ridiculous, even for Day 1.
-checks Dusk for 'new player' tag-
-sees nothing-
Alright, either this is a really huge newbie mistake (I've never played with this guy), or a really dumb scum tell.
Well, either we are gonna go for an advanced degree in Understanding Blarg or we might as well policy lynch. Because if not, whining about him certainly will not get anything straight forward from him.
But I do wonder, if I understood his picture correctly, why nobody died on N0. Either mafia was forbidden (which would be interesting), a clutch block by town, or part 2 of one the lousy decisions I've seen mafia make and they decided to not kill someone in the night phase.
So everything begins with Dusk's 50/50 argument: Blarg is scum or won an immunity. Let's ignore the argument itself and look at the reactions. I'm thinking that scum would like to get some #townpoints by throwing shade at Dusk's strange theory: "oh that looks scummy oh wow", blend in with the others.
Sawneeks is the 1st to post what I see as a bit of a drive-by. Nothing else is added to the discussion than the fact that she considers Dusk scummy as fuck. Shade successfully thrown.
#pointcalculator awards #aggressivescumpoints for Splinter and Sawneeks yaaaaay.
I mean, I can't really defend myself against the drive-by claims because that's kinda what it was. I was out at a Convention all day yesterday and used my down time to check in and make a post or two and none of them were really substantial at all. :x
Now that I'm home I can properly explain my reasons ( with quotes and all! ) if you want me to. I'm still unsure on Dusk but I have my sights on Blarg atm, unlike earlier where it was the opposite.
Please do offer some details, if you are able to.
Logically, we can assume at this point that either Kawl won some sort of immunity from the Xbox, or Kawl is scum.
Don't over think this.
I know you guys want to consider all options and everything, but Blarg has a 50/50 chance of flipping scum.
It's day one, let's not waste it on an inactive as per usual gafia tradition.
Everyone has a 50/50 chance to flip Scum. Neutrals muck up that percentage but let's play this on the assumption there are no Neutrals ( seeing as we have no evidence of one atm ). When it comes down to it you're either Scum or you're not, hence '50/50'.
Well that's more like it, but is it opposite day? "Offers no opinion", "minimal shade" is fine, while trying to lynch obvious scum is scummy?So everything begins with Dusk's 50/50 argument: Blarg is scum or won an immunity. Let's ignore the argument itself and look at the reactions. I'm thinking that scum would like to get some #townpoints by throwing shade at Dusk's strange theory: "oh that looks scummy oh wow", blend in with the others.
Karkador desires the specifics. How did Dusk arrive at this conclusion? He finds the 50/50 oddly specific, but offers no other opinion. Amount of shade thrown, minimal.
*Splinter does things somewhat differently. He declares Dusk's posts scummy rather quickly. Again, consider the circumstances. When Splinter makes it known that he considers Dusk's 50/50 scummy as hell, Dusk is being questioned by Karkador who wants Dusk to give the details behind the argument. Just like with Blarg later on, in my opinion, Splinter throws shade rather quickly indeed and he has plenty to toss.
Sawneeks is the 1st to post what I see as a bit of a drive-by. Nothing else is added to the discussion than the fact that she considers Dusk scummy as fuck. Shade successfully thrown.
The second to quickly pass the scene is OceanicAir. He is more reserved in terms of shade and even desires an explanation about Dusk's posts. Only small amounts of shade detected.
Lastly, we have StarSketch. She offers explanations for Dusk's post and only offers a hint of shade between the lines.
#pointcalculator awards #aggressivescumpoints for Splinter and Sawneeks yaaaaay.
Of course not.OA do you believe Blarg when he claims all the contestants were in the opening flavor?
I could understand the mafia not being allowed a night kill on the opening night phase. It would effectively be kicking someone out of the game before they even had a chance to play. Not only would that kill not provide anyone with any useful information (sure, a positive for mafia), but would be pretty unfair gameplay wise to the one killed.
That's incredibly reductive. I understand Blarg well enough to know when he's furiously backpedaling from a stupid fucking question, or when he's throwing gambits for the sake of gambits.Well, either we are gonna go for an advanced degree in Understanding Blarg or we might as well policy lynch. Because if not, whining about him certainly will not get anything straight forward from him.
But I do wonder, if I understood his picture correctly, why nobody died on N0. Either mafia was forbidden (which would be interesting), a clutch block by town, or part 2 of one the lousy decisions I've seen mafia make and they decided to not kill someone in the night phase.
We know a typical mafia game involves a minority of players being mafia. Even adding in neutrals, the balance here wouldn't be 10 mafia/etc. and 10 town. Its not a 50/50 shot to flip scum, especially not on Day 1. It's more like 25/75, 30/70.
I pressed the 50/50 because it did seem oddly specific. Either Dusk was mistaken enough to stick his neck out for a faulty claim, or he was operating on some kind of inside info. Maybe the game IS somehow 50/50. Or maybe Dusk is in a role that made him off-handedly think of the 50/50 number.
Now, what also makes me a bit curious is that you're trying to rationalize and cover for his gaffe by also insisting the chance to flip scum is 50/50. It's like trying to repeat 2+2=5 enough times until we believe it's true.
Ok Sawneeks I was being facetious with Stathamville.You realize I'm being incredibly lazy and not doing actual numbers, right? Also if saying 'Dusk is scummy af' is me covering for his mistake I don't know what to tell you.
I can't speak for Dusk but I assumed he was only talking about Blarg's alignment. A person's alignment is one of two things: Town or Scum. I'm not saying overall the Roster is split down the middle with 10 Scum and 10 Town, I'm saying an individual's alignment is split down the middle being 50/50.
You realize I'm being incredibly lazy and not doing actual numbers, right? Also if saying 'Dusk is scummy af' is me covering for his mistake I don't know what to tell you.
I can't speak for Dusk but I assumed he was only talking about Blarg's alignment. A person's alignment is one of two things: Town or Scum. I'm not saying overall the Roster is split down the middle with 10 Scum and 10 Town, I'm saying an individual's alignment is split down the middle being 50/50.
Scum team is going to target power roles, he just made himself their number one target.
He either has some sort of immunity protecting him from being NK, or he's part of the scum team and knows he doesn't have to worry about it.
His argument is that the scum team will obviously target power roles and by claiming to have the Xbox, blarg made himself the primary target. Because of this, blarg must get some sort of immunity to nks, or is scum since those are the only two guaranteed ways for blarg to not be killed after making himself such a big target.Don't over think this.
I know you guys want to consider all options and everything, but Blarg has a 50/50 chance of flipping scum.
It's day one, let's not waste it on an inactive as per usual gafia tradition.
By the way, what's your thoughts currently on Blarg now that the rug has been unceremoniously pulled out from under him? Same for Dusk, what do you think of him?
Does it? Ok, thanks for the heads up.Hey Magnum, i think your vote need to be on a separate line in order to count.
To elaborate on a previous point about the item, I don't think the winner should step forward. If it's a pro-town item, scum has a 1/4 chance of hitting someone with it tonight (lower of course if scum was a contestant).
*snip*
A few observations:
-Blarg is not helping with the fake item info and the flavour analysis. It's one thing to generate discussion; it's another to misdirect town. In a game about lying, town has to be truthful to have an advantage over scum.
*snip*
Are you fucking kidding me?
Are you fucking kidding me??
So your theory, before being quashed by Sophia, was that the scum team was me, Corn, CM, and Stan, identified as a full team on day 1 through a combination of fluff hints and pointless lies?
And you believed this?
Black is white
Up is down
StarSketch is speaking sense
Careful, that last line was almost an opinion
That's also the second person to use the "Blarg being Blarg" excuse. Not a fan
On a related note, I think I've agreed with everything Kark has said this game (I'm assuming Plinko was silliness). I don't think that's ever happened before.
I'm scared and I don't know what to do.
...
Moving on
That's incredibly reductive. I understand Blarg well enough to know when he's furiously backpedaling from a stupid fucking question, or when he's throwing gambits for the sake of gambits.
I'm not whining, I'm strongly advising we lynch him.
Because he's scum.
Ok sure, I see where your coming from, but seriously? Hints from the moderator? Is this your first game?
"I won an item"
"j/k I didn't get it"
That's what I meant.
Does it? Ok, thanks for the heads up.
vote: Dusk Solder
*snip*
Maybe it's just the horrors of VI coming back but Blarg is acting a lot like he did when he played Scum in that game. Threw a bunch of things at the wall to see what stuck and once he got something good it was everything he talked about and pushed in discussion. Blarg is also asking us to make huge decisions not only on flavor but on knowledge that only he posses and we have no way of knowing if he is telling the truth.
Even before the clarification came forward having the poem be posted is what gave it away. You're pushing really hard for decisions that are based on you twisting flavor and having ''''''insider knowledge'''''' of everything.
VOTE: Blargonaut
But... Plinko is played with chips, not balls!
Magnum,
I mean at the end of the day you are your own person, and you don't have to agree with me.
Again I'm not making any wild assumptions.
It doesn't matter whether or not Blarg won the Xbox.
It doesn't matter whether or not we know what exactly the Xbox does.
It doesn't matter whether or not we know who submitted bids last night.
What matters is the fact that Blarg was willing to come forward, unprompted, and claim that he was the Xbox winner.
Why does that matter?
It matters because if at any point in the future, any point at all, a prize winner reveals that their item gave them an ability, a flip will switch in the scum chat, and they will decide that all prize winners have to go.
That may not necessarily happen tonight. Maybe one or two days phases from now. But it just takes one prize winner to reveal that they got an ability, and ALL confirmed prize winners become scum targets. They will not take a chance with this. They would be stupid to.
Usually players that win prizes or roles keep that information secret until they have something useful to tell town. This is because as everybody knows, scum do not want town players with abilities alive in the game. Not only did he tell us he won a prize, but he didn't tell us what the prize did or give any useful information to help town win.
He took what could end up being a very big risk to his personal survival, to not tell town anything useful...
Coming forward that early and claiming he won the Xbox demonstrates that he is NOT scared that he will be targeted by scum, and again there are only two reasons why someone would not be afraid of being night killed.
All of Blarg's actions at this point should be a major red flag to you. I 100% get it. You're scared to mislynch, but this one is a gimme.
vote: Blargonaut