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The Price Is Right MAFIA edition |OT| Come on down!!!

Stepping in real fast because this is partially my fault, but I need to clarify that the flavor in the Day 1 post is just that: Flavor.

The relevant bits are either in potential PMs (which, as per usual rules, you may not directly quote), or highlighted in the opening post.


That is all, sorry for the confusion. Carry on!

MODKILL: Blargonaut

Ok, joking aside, i think we should stop playing 'find the Xbox' until we actually find out what the prizes even do.
 

Kyanrute

Member
Baring in mind the stupidity of Blarg's arguments, this is an overwhelmingly neutral response.

Kyan is anyone anything other than a null read to you?

Bearing in mind that this is day one and everything is based on the slightest of things, I'd say that my response is realistic. Consider the circumstances. In addition to the date, we are talking about Blarg and he has not yet explained himself yet either. In other words, while it is justifiable to be suspicious, I'd advice against going further until Blarg explains himself.

Your own response to everything Blarg said rings a bit in my ears. Tad too aggressive to my liking.
 

*Splinter

Member
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Careful, that last line was almost an opinion

That's also the second person to use the "Blarg being Blarg" excuse. Not a fan
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Okay now that I'm actually home and not on my phone it's time to play the game.

Since the questionnaire was such a raging success in Danny Phantom, I have developed the next step in Mafia analysis...MAFIA RORSCHACH. This scientifically proven method will allow us to determine who the bad guys are.

What is the first thing that comes to your mind, if you look at this picture?
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The Mother Ships from the game Xevious.

What is the first thing that comes to your mind, if you look at this picture?
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A rocket ship with cool fins near the top

We're almost done. One last picture. What is the first thing that comes to your mind, if you look at this picture? Remember that there are no right or wrong answers.
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Royyor Spaceships.

I'm apparently on a space-kick right now. :x

D1 lynch is typically someone who's thrown under the bus at the last second. Usually for the crimes of "fluff posting" or "inactivity."

I'm saying instead of wasting D1 on lynching someone who won't give us information. We should just target Blarg.

And scummy AF?

Please.

No scum player has the balls to push a lynch, 8 hours into D1.

Wroooong. Not only wrong because I believe Blarg is Scum and he has been trying to lead conversation all Day but even before that there have been plenty of times where Scum try to lead Day 1. It's not an unheard of strategy.

Also you're deflecting the questions thrown at you. Although, interestingly enough, you want to lynch Blarg and at the moment he is way scummier than you are. Depending on what he ends up flipping you might be in the clear for me.

Kark decided to (effectively) RNG a lynch target. Chaos ensued in the process.

We "democratically" decided who to use my D1 override on....via plinko.

Never change guys <3

im good thanks, been a nice relaxing day, followed by a momentary panick over just how much i might have missed. turns out alot but not really anything.

favorite game show? well i doubt you've ever seen it, but a show called 7 days, NZ game show that basically has random teams of notable comedians riffing on current events through a paper thin game show disguise.
I should mention that i have never seen a single episode of the Price is Right. im determined to wear that ignorance proudly.

blarg is being blarg, surprise surprise. Dragonz made a supposed scumtell but im not sold on it. Splinters maybe going overboard on it but eh, what else ya gonna do?
plinko looked fun, shame i missed it.

how are you?

UNVOTE: StanleyPalmtree

I'm doing pretty well actually. Got a good nights sleep and now I'm looking forward to Mafia and Overwatch for a nice Sunday evening. c:

We can wear our Price is Right ignorance proudly. I'm tempted to look up the opening but i figured nah, I'll stay committed. Maybe I'll go back to watching Whose Line instead?

By the way, what's your thoughts currently on Blarg now that the rug has been unceremoniously pulled out from under him? Same for Dusk, what do you think of him?

Baring in mind the stupidity of Blarg's arguments, this is an overwhelmingly neutral response.

Kyan is anyone anything other than a null read to you?

Thank you.

Maybe it's just the horrors of VI coming back but Blarg is acting a lot like he did when he played Scum in that game. Threw a bunch of things at the wall to see what stuck and once he got something good it was everything he talked about and pushed in discussion. Blarg is also asking us to make huge decisions not only on flavor but on knowledge that only he posses and we have no way of knowing if he is telling the truth.

Even before the clarification came forward having the poem be posted is what gave it away. You're pushing really hard for decisions that are based on you twisting flavor and having ''''''insider knowledge'''''' of everything.

VOTE: Blargonaut
 
Careful, that last line was almost an opinion

That's also the second person to use the "Blarg being Blarg" excuse. Not a fan
Well, either we are gonna go for an advanced degree in Understanding Blarg or we might as well policy lynch. Because if not, whining about him certainly will not get anything straight forward from him.

But I do wonder, if I understood his picture correctly, why nobody died on N0. Either mafia was forbidden (which would be interesting), a clutch block by town, or part 2 of one the lousy decisions I've seen mafia make and they decided to not kill someone in the night phase.
 

Kyanrute

Member
Really interested in hearing about your theory and methodology on RNG and target selection probability.

Your RNG, yes.

How did you RNG a vote on Oceanic? What method did you use?

And how do you figure Blarg has a 50/50 chance of flipping scum?

I want the specifics.

Yes or no questions? What?

You told us specifically that there's a 50% chance Blarg is scum. I want you to show the work for that oddly specific claim.

To elaborate on that note about Kawl:

Dusk posts some questionable logic.


Kawl dismisses it. Dusk's post wasn't awful but I'm more on board with Kawl here.


Dusk makes the aforementioned scummy as hell post. "Don't over think", "50/50 scum", "Listen to me so you don't suck like you usually do"


Now here's where Kawl loses me:

Doesn't seem to have a problem with the scumminess of Dusk's post, but instead doubles down on defending Blarg.


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Also on Dusk's scummy post, I must have misread before because I didn't realise he's advocating against lynching inactives on day 1. Lol at that

Inactive partners dusk?

I agree with your points on Dusk there Splinter but I'm having trouble seeing Kawl playing Defend the Blarg. It seemed to me he was simply stating don't overthink whatever Blarg does, something people have a habit of doing that just ends up taking time.

Dusk is scummy af though

Yeah, Dusk that 50/50 scum for Blarg is odd, which you still haven't explained. Also, pushing for a lynch before everybody has checked in any meaningful fashion is kinda ridiculous, even for Day 1.

-checks Dusk for 'new player' tag-

-sees nothing-

Alright, either this is a really huge newbie mistake (I've never played with this guy), or a really dumb scum tell.

So everything begins with Dusk's 50/50 argument: Blarg is scum or won an immunity. Let's ignore the argument itself and look at the reactions. I'm thinking that scum would like to get some #townpoints by throwing shade at Dusk's strange theory: "oh that looks scummy oh wow", blend in with the others.

Karkador desires the specifics. How did Dusk arrive at this conclusion? He finds the 50/50 oddly specific, but offers no other opinion. Amount of shade thrown, minimal.

*Splinter does things somewhat differently. He declares Dusk's posts scummy rather quickly. Again, consider the circumstances. When Splinter makes it known that he considers Dusk's 50/50 scummy as hell, Dusk is being questioned by Karkador who wants Dusk to give the details behind the argument. Just like with Blarg later on, in my opinion, Splinter throws shade rather quickly indeed and he has plenty to toss.

Sawneeks is the 1st to post what I see as a bit of a drive-by. Nothing else is added to the discussion than the fact that she considers Dusk scummy as fuck. Shade successfully thrown.

The second to quickly pass the scene is OceanicAir. He is more reserved in terms of shade and even desires an explanation about Dusk's posts. Only small amounts of shade detected.

Lastly, we have StarSketch. She offers explanations for Dusk's post and only offers a hint of shade between the lines.

#pointcalculator awards #aggressivescumpoints for Splinter and Sawneeks yaaaaay.
 

Ynnek7

Member
Well, either we are gonna go for an advanced degree in Understanding Blarg or we might as well policy lynch. Because if not, whining about him certainly will not get anything straight forward from him.

But I do wonder, if I understood his picture correctly, why nobody died on N0. Either mafia was forbidden (which would be interesting), a clutch block by town, or part 2 of one the lousy decisions I've seen mafia make and they decided to not kill someone in the night phase.

I could understand the mafia not being allowed a night kill on the opening night phase. It would effectively be kicking someone out of the game before they even had a chance to play. Not only would that kill not provide anyone with any useful information (sure, a positive for mafia), but would be pretty unfair gameplay wise to the one killed.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
So everything begins with Dusk's 50/50 argument: Blarg is scum or won an immunity. Let's ignore the argument itself and look at the reactions. I'm thinking that scum would like to get some #townpoints by throwing shade at Dusk's strange theory: "oh that looks scummy oh wow", blend in with the others.

Sawneeks is the 1st to post what I see as a bit of a drive-by. Nothing else is added to the discussion than the fact that she considers Dusk scummy as fuck. Shade successfully thrown.

#pointcalculator awards #aggressivescumpoints for Splinter and Sawneeks yaaaaay.

I mean, I can't really defend myself against the drive-by claims because that's kinda what it was. I was out at a Convention all day yesterday and used my down time to check in and make a post or two and none of them were really substantial at all. :x

Now that I'm home I can properly explain my reasons ( with quotes and all! ) if you want me to. I'm still unsure on Dusk but I have my sights on Blarg atm, unlike earlier where it was the opposite.
 

Kyanrute

Member
I mean, I can't really defend myself against the drive-by claims because that's kinda what it was. I was out at a Convention all day yesterday and used my down time to check in and make a post or two and none of them were really substantial at all. :x

Now that I'm home I can properly explain my reasons ( with quotes and all! ) if you want me to. I'm still unsure on Dusk but I have my sights on Blarg atm, unlike earlier where it was the opposite.

Please do offer some details, if you are able to.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Please do offer some details, if you are able to.

I got u fam

Logically, we can assume at this point that either Kawl won some sort of immunity from the Xbox, or Kawl is scum.

He meant *Blarg and not Kawl, something Dusk fixed in a following post but figured I would clarify again here so it's not so confusing.

At the time of Dusk making this post everyone was still trying to figure out who played and Blarg had come forward stating he had already won. This post in particular felt a lot like role fishing as well as contributing to the conversation by making a blanket 50/50 statement he could back out of later if he gained too much heat.

"Well, Blarg could be protected by the Xbox and that's why he is coming forward ooooor he is Scum. idk"

meaning later he could either say 'let's not lynch Blarg because he has immunity' OR 'he is obviously lying and we should lynch the liar'.

It felt like Scum trying to safely contribute while having an easy out for any following situations.

Don't over think this.

I know you guys want to consider all options and everything, but Blarg has a 50/50 chance of flipping scum.

It's day one, let's not waste it on an inactive as per usual gafia tradition.

Everyone has a 50/50 chance to flip Scum. Neutrals muck up that percentage but let's play this on the assumption there are no Neutrals ( seeing as we have no evidence of one atm ). When it comes down to it you're either Scum or you're not, hence '50/50'.

His numbers aren't what bother me like some other people, it's his refusal to explain why he uses the '50/50' number as his pushing point against Blarg. See here:

www.random.org


Specifics? What do you want to know? Use yes or no questions.

Kark asks him for specifics on where he got his 50/50 number from on Blarg. Dusk never answered that question at that point and instead deflects it by asking for 'yes or no questions'. So far the only reason I can tell for Dusk thinking Blarg is scum is because of the possible chance that he is lying about the Xbox and is why he is so active. Now that I think about it, this actually contradicts his line of thinking that Scum wouldn't push an active lynch so early yet he believes Blarg could be Scum because of the fake Xbox. Both arguably require an active Scum gambit so why he would dismiss one and believe the other is beyond me.

My initial Scum feelings for Dusk kind of break down into a Scum playing it safe and attempting to contribute but, when backed into a corner and questioned, had no real answer for his own statement. I'm still unsure on Dusk but I would much rather lynch Blarg first as it seems a lot of alignments hinge on him and depending on his flip it will influence what I feel about Dusk.
 

Karkador

Banned
Everyone has a 50/50 chance to flip Scum. Neutrals muck up that percentage but let's play this on the assumption there are no Neutrals ( seeing as we have no evidence of one atm ). When it comes down to it you're either Scum or you're not, hence '50/50'.


We know a typical mafia game involves a minority of players being mafia. Even adding in neutrals, the balance here wouldn't be 10 mafia/etc. and 10 town. Its not a 50/50 shot to flip scum, especially not on Day 1. It's more like 25/75, 30/70.

I pressed the 50/50 because it did seem oddly specific. Either Dusk was mistaken enough to stick his neck out for a faulty claim, or he was operating on some kind of inside info. Maybe the game IS somehow 50/50. Or maybe Dusk is in a role that made him off-handedly think of the 50/50 number.

Now, what also makes me a bit curious is that you're trying to rationalize and cover for his gaffe by also insisting the chance to flip scum is 50/50. It's like trying to repeat 2+2=5 enough times until we believe it's true.
 

*Splinter

Member
I don't see your problem Kark

I mean, either I'm Jason Statham or I'm not

Hence, it's 50/50 I'm Jason Statham

Same is true for everyone, so 50% of the population is Jason Statham

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Q.E.D
 

*Splinter

Member
So everything begins with Dusk's 50/50 argument: Blarg is scum or won an immunity. Let's ignore the argument itself and look at the reactions. I'm thinking that scum would like to get some #townpoints by throwing shade at Dusk's strange theory: "oh that looks scummy oh wow", blend in with the others.

Karkador desires the specifics. How did Dusk arrive at this conclusion? He finds the 50/50 oddly specific, but offers no other opinion. Amount of shade thrown, minimal.

*Splinter does things somewhat differently. He declares Dusk's posts scummy rather quickly. Again, consider the circumstances. When Splinter makes it known that he considers Dusk's 50/50 scummy as hell, Dusk is being questioned by Karkador who wants Dusk to give the details behind the argument. Just like with Blarg later on, in my opinion, Splinter throws shade rather quickly indeed and he has plenty to toss.

Sawneeks is the 1st to post what I see as a bit of a drive-by. Nothing else is added to the discussion than the fact that she considers Dusk scummy as fuck. Shade successfully thrown.

The second to quickly pass the scene is OceanicAir. He is more reserved in terms of shade and even desires an explanation about Dusk's posts. Only small amounts of shade detected.

Lastly, we have StarSketch. She offers explanations for Dusk's post and only offers a hint of shade between the lines.

#pointcalculator awards #aggressivescumpoints for Splinter and Sawneeks yaaaaay.
Well that's more like it, but is it opposite day? "Offers no opinion", "minimal shade" is fine, while trying to lynch obvious scum is scummy?

I don't even disagree that Kark (Plinko aside) has been looking pretty townie, but I don't really get your reasoning here.
 
OA do you believe Blarg when he claims all the contestants were in the opening flavor?
Of course not. This is Blarg we're talking about Besides the fact the it was said that the opening flavor is just flavor, Corn and CM both said that they bid. Blarg hasn't given much of a reason either as to why he would believe that post-mod clarification.

I could understand the mafia not being allowed a night kill on the opening night phase. It would effectively be kicking someone out of the game before they even had a chance to play. Not only would that kill not provide anyone with any useful information (sure, a positive for mafia), but would be pretty unfair gameplay wise to the one killed.

We had a game where there was a full set of N0 actions, because the flip would give us more to talk about since D1 is usually awfully boring. Beyond a straight night kill there could be some sort of poisoner also to avoid getting kicked out before actually starting. Although with the reduced time for D1 that might not be necessary either.
 

*Splinter

Member
On a related note, I think I've agreed with everything Kark has said this game (I'm assuming Plinko was silliness). I don't think that's ever happened before.

I'm scared and I don't know what to do.

...

Moving on

Well, either we are gonna go for an advanced degree in Understanding Blarg or we might as well policy lynch. Because if not, whining about him certainly will not get anything straight forward from him.

But I do wonder, if I understood his picture correctly, why nobody died on N0. Either mafia was forbidden (which would be interesting), a clutch block by town, or part 2 of one the lousy decisions I've seen mafia make and they decided to not kill someone in the night phase.
That's incredibly reductive. I understand Blarg well enough to know when he's furiously backpedaling from a stupid fucking question, or when he's throwing gambits for the sake of gambits.

I'm not whining, I'm strongly advising we lynch him.

Because he's scum.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
We know a typical mafia game involves a minority of players being mafia. Even adding in neutrals, the balance here wouldn't be 10 mafia/etc. and 10 town. Its not a 50/50 shot to flip scum, especially not on Day 1. It's more like 25/75, 30/70.

I pressed the 50/50 because it did seem oddly specific. Either Dusk was mistaken enough to stick his neck out for a faulty claim, or he was operating on some kind of inside info. Maybe the game IS somehow 50/50. Or maybe Dusk is in a role that made him off-handedly think of the 50/50 number.

Now, what also makes me a bit curious is that you're trying to rationalize and cover for his gaffe by also insisting the chance to flip scum is 50/50. It's like trying to repeat 2+2=5 enough times until we believe it's true.

You realize I'm being incredibly lazy and not doing actual numbers, right? Also if saying 'Dusk is scummy af' is me covering for his mistake I don't know what to tell you.

I can't speak for Dusk but I assumed he was only talking about Blarg's alignment. A person's alignment is one of two things: Town or Scum. I'm not saying overall the Roster is split down the middle with 10 Scum and 10 Town, I'm saying an individual's alignment is split down the middle being 50/50.
 

*Splinter

Member
You realize I'm being incredibly lazy and not doing actual numbers, right? Also if saying 'Dusk is scummy af' is me covering for his mistake I don't know what to tell you.

I can't speak for Dusk but I assumed he was only talking about Blarg's alignment. A person's alignment is one of two things: Town or Scum. I'm not saying overall the Roster is split down the middle with 10 Scum and 10 Town, I'm saying an individual's alignment is split down the middle being 50/50.
Ok Sawneeks I was being facetious with Stathamville.

I'm on board with everything else you've said, but this 50/50 thing is a weird, mathematically bogus, hill to die on.
 

Kalor

Member
I could get behind a Blarg or Dusk lynch today. For Blarg I don't think we got much information out of him claiming to have won the bid. It created discussion but I don't know if the confusion was worth it.
Dusk's reasoning has been weird but I'm split on them. Sometimes I read their earlier posts and see them as town figuring stuff out but the "50/50 odds" thing is what sticks out. I understand the reasoning behind why they would say it and that's all been discussed but I don't know what effect that statistic was meant to have. He got focused on Blarg really early and unless I missed it never really covered the idea of Blarg being town. He just immediately jumped to either him getting immunity or being scum.
 
You realize I'm being incredibly lazy and not doing actual numbers, right? Also if saying 'Dusk is scummy af' is me covering for his mistake I don't know what to tell you.

I can't speak for Dusk but I assumed he was only talking about Blarg's alignment. A person's alignment is one of two things: Town or Scum. I'm not saying overall the Roster is split down the middle with 10 Scum and 10 Town, I'm saying an individual's alignment is split down the middle being 50/50.

Uh that isn't how probability works.
 
Sawneeks, I may have been a bit reductive in my earlier posts, but the normal probability of someone flipping scum isn't 50/50 it's closer to 25/75, as scum only make up around 25% of the player base.

The 50/50 figure comes from the fact scum almost always target player roles at night.

Because of this, it's common sense for players with abilities to keep quiet about them until they either have useful information to contribute or they are under pressure to be lynched.

Blarg was neither of those things when he very flimsily soft claimed winning the xbox.

Which means he's not worried about being night killed.

There are only two reasons why someone with a power role wouldn't be worried about that. They either have a bulletproof like ability, or they are scum.

That's where the 50/50 odds come from. When he dies he will flip one or the other. Scum or bulletproof.
 
Catching up here.

Page 1 is initial day 1 fluff. Conversation revolves are Blarg who claims he won the XBOX, and some discussion about who actually placed a bid.

About halfway through Page 2, when suspicion has been leveled on Dusk for some questionable posts (50/50, scum wouldn't be pushing a vote so early, let's not go for inactives), WAMD (Splinter seemingly catches her in a scum slip-up) and Blarg (says he won the item and then didn't), Kark brings out Plinko.

After Plinko, more item discussion, the contestants reveal themselves (Blarg, Kawl, Corn, CM), Blarg goes on about flavour until Sophia intervenes and says "flavour is flavour".

A few observations:

-Blarg is not helping with the fake item info and the flavour analysis. It's one thing to generate discussion; it's another to misdirect town. In a game about lying, town has to be truthful to have an advantage over scum.
-Dusk is making mistakes. It seems like scum who has tripped over themselves and are trying to salvage the situation, or it could be a well-meaning townie trying too hard.
-CM was the last to come forward as a contestant. And no one claimed to have won the item. However, CM asks a very loaded "does it matter who won the item" which suggests that a) they won and are keeping quiet or b) they didn't win and want the winner to come forward. Considering how they posted right after Blarg recants his item win, they had ample opportunity to come forward as a contestant, but didn't.
-After CM says they're the last contestant, no one brings up the fact that no one admitted to winning the item. Everyone is then sidetracked by Blarg reading too much into flavour.
-Finally, Kalor's post #322 above. Already narrowing the vote candidates to 2 when votes are still very much split? Trying to shoo away suspicion and discussion on anyone else?

Scum suspects for today:
-Blarg
-Dusk
-CM
-Kalor
 
To elaborate on a previous point about the item, I don't think the winner should step forward. If it's a pro-town item, scum has a 1/4 chance of hitting someone with it tonight (lower of course if scum was a contestant).
 

MagnumBoy20xx

Neo Member
Fake edit:I was writing this before dusk solder responded to Sawneeks and was too far into it to scrap the whole thing. I still think that I make some good points in this post though.

Alright I just reread the thread, and something stuck out to me.

Dusk's "50/50" argument: this has been one of the most talked about things so far,mainly because it doesn't make that much sense. Here's the argument I'm question:
Scum team is going to target power roles, he just made himself their number one target.

He either has some sort of immunity protecting him from being NK, or he's part of the scum team and knows he doesn't have to worry about it.
Don't over think this.

I know you guys want to consider all options and everything, but Blarg has a 50/50 chance of flipping scum.

It's day one, let's not waste it on an inactive as per usual gafia tradition.
His argument is that the scum team will obviously target power roles and by claiming to have the Xbox, blarg made himself the primary target. Because of this, blarg must get some sort of immunity to nks, or is scum since those are the only two guaranteed ways for blarg to not be killed after making himself such a big target.

The reason this makes no sense is because it relies on alot of assumptions. First, that blarg is a power role. We have no idea if power roles are even in the game. Of course, the counter argument could be that he ment that they would target item holders but that's rendered moot by his second assumption, that blarg's item gives him nk immunity. We don't know what the Xbox does at all, making assumptions on what it does makes any argument sketchy. All of this relies on the third and final assumption: that Blarg even had the Xbox in the first place. When Dusk made this argument, we only had two confirmed"contestants" Blarg and Kawl. The other two, CM and CornB had not chimed in yet, which means that Dusk was taking Blarg's claim as truth. That is the biggest assumption to make at that moment in time, especially since CM or CornB could have killed it at any moment beforehand by counterclaiming blarg. All of these assumptions are necessary for his argument that we have a 50/50 chance of getting scum by lynching blarg. It just retired on too many assumptions being right.

With all of that said, vote:Dusk Solder

Of course Blarg has since "recinded" his claim, but I think that that's just blarg being blarg. No one else has claimed to have the Xbox, so I'm just going to assume that blarg actually has it still it is stated otherwise.
 
Hey Magnum, i think your vote need to be on a separate line in order to count.

By the way, what's your thoughts currently on Blarg now that the rug has been unceremoniously pulled out from under him? Same for Dusk, what do you think of him?

with Dusk,
im not very sure what to make of it, i guess i see his logic as unconvincing as it is, and i could see this as a towny getting to caught up in his own theory.
honestly im just more interested in where he goes from here.

with Blarg,
now with blarg, i dont really look at blarg like a puzzle to be solved. i look at blarg like and Abstract expressionist piece. Take in everything, the shitposting and the logical accusations, and find meaning not in what you think, but what you feel.
and right now hes feeling kinda scummy.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
To elaborate on a previous point about the item, I don't think the winner should step forward. If it's a pro-town item, scum has a 1/4 chance of hitting someone with it tonight (lower of course if scum was a contestant).

I agree with LP on this one. While we don't know what the prize is for winning during the Night phase it should be a safe guess to say it's probably some sort of Power Role ( x-shot perhaps?) or even NK immunity. Having the winner step forward essentially makes them a walking target.
 
Magnum,

I mean at the end of the day you are your own person, and you don't have to agree with me.

Again I'm not making any wild assumptions.

It doesn't matter whether or not Blarg won the Xbox.

It doesn't matter whether or not we know what exactly the Xbox does.

It doesn't matter whether or not we know who submitted bids last night.

What matters is the fact that Blarg was willing to come forward, unprompted, and claim that he was the Xbox winner.

Why does that matter?

It matters because if at any point in the future, any point at all, a prize winner reveals that their item gave them an ability, a flip will switch in the scum chat, and they will decide that all prize winners have to go.

That may not necessarily happen tonight. Maybe one or two days phases from now. But it just takes one prize winner to reveal that they got an ability, and ALL confirmed prize winners become scum targets. They will not take a chance with this. They would be stupid to.

Usually players that win prizes or roles keep that information secret until they have something useful to tell town. This is because as everybody knows, scum do not want town players with abilities alive in the game. Not only did he tell us he won a prize, but he didn't tell us what the prize did or give any useful information to help town win.

He took what could end up being a very big risk to his personal survival, to not tell town anything useful...

Coming forward that early and claiming he won the Xbox demonstrates that he is NOT scared that he will be targeted by scum, and again there are only two reasons why someone would not be afraid of being night killed.

All of Blarg's actions at this point should be a major red flag to you. I 100% get it. You're scared to mislynch, but this one is a gimme.

vote: Blargonaut
 
I get that Blarg is just being Blarg, but a good point was made that there's really no reason to lie about winning the prize other than to fuck with town and lead us astray.

Do you have an actual explanation, Blarg? I know that's your playstyle but I'm also really confused and you're doing nothing to help that so...

Vote: Blargonaut[/vote]
 

Sophia

Member
oceanicair (0)
dusk soldier 53 (333)

cornbro (0)
*splinter 56 (153)

stanleypalmtree (0)
sawneeks 64 (307)

wherearemahdragonz (1)
*splinter 153

karkador (0)
blargonaut 206 (208)

magnumboy20xx (1)
blargonaut 215 (231)
karkador 222

blargonaut (3)
sawneeks 307
dusk soldier 333
wherearemahdragonz 336

dusk solder (1)
magnumboy20xx 327 (331)
magnumboy20xx 331

Majority is 11

Day 1 ends:

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*snip*

A few observations:

-Blarg is not helping with the fake item info and the flavour analysis. It's one thing to generate discussion; it's another to misdirect town. In a game about lying, town has to be truthful to have an advantage over scum.

*snip*

"fake item info"? Where are you looking?

I never talked about the Xbox's capabilities as a gift, thanks for the baseless accusation, LP

Hint: It's because I don't have the Xbox

And then you have the gall to chide me for misdirection?

Welcome to my naughty list, hypocrite

and no, scum deserves to be fucked with too
 
Tell me, you ingrates; assuming that every Day would start with 4 named contestants in the opening post, how long would you all have spent talking about those 4 named contestants, and whether if they were the actual Nightly contestants or not, had I not secured early, tangible, public mod confirmation of the opening post's pure flavourness for you all?

You're welcome, so kill me
 
You say that its pure flavourness was a given, and that what I did was unnecessary, but I refute that; just look at how far my questioning of a "given" has brought your discussion, to the point of directing Today's lynch target (me)

If it was truly a given, the conversation wouldn't have went this far and in-depth. But continue revelling in your complacency, nerds
 
Are you fucking kidding me?

Are you fucking kidding me??

So your theory, before being quashed by Sophia, was that the scum team was me, Corn, CM, and Stan, identified as a full team on day 1 through a combination of fluff hints and pointless lies?

And you believed this?

Black is white

Up is down

StarSketch is speaking sense

Careful, that last line was almost an opinion

That's also the second person to use the "Blarg being Blarg" excuse. Not a fan

On a related note, I think I've agreed with everything Kark has said this game (I'm assuming Plinko was silliness). I don't think that's ever happened before.

I'm scared and I don't know what to do.

...

Moving on


That's incredibly reductive. I understand Blarg well enough to know when he's furiously backpedaling from a stupid fucking question, or when he's throwing gambits for the sake of gambits.

I'm not whining, I'm strongly advising we lynch him.

Because he's scum.

Where's your vote on me, brah?

keep talking

*Splinter:

  • wants to lynch an active player on D1 instead of an inactive; thereby stifling thread bumps and therefore conversation going forward
  • keeps on attacking me but doesn't have the Plinko balls to actually vote for me and stick to it
  • continues to cling to my insanely obvious #bait posts like they're lifesavers on a stormy sea
  • now that the mod has clarified the 4 names were just flavour (which through MY post contributions, I got the mod to confirm that for you all, thereby eliminating a conversation piece you all could potentially waste time talking about), he double-downs on accusing my previous and totally justifiable-at-the-time question of "Why are you lying (about being a named Contestant)?" of being "stupid fucking" (lol?) and advocating my questioning of him as a lynchpin on me; newsflash, fool(s), the mod confirmation I got for you all is the answer to my question to *Splinter. When I saw it wasn't going anywhere with him, I moved to mingle with the upper class for results instead, not peon(s) who sidewind away from a simple question. Why don't you furiously backpedal into some courage, huh?
good news for you, *Splinter, despite all this, I'm not even going to fight/vote you

scum will sort you out for me

Ok sure, I see where your coming from, but seriously? Hints from the moderator? Is this your first game?

Every game is my first game
 
"I won an item"

"j/k I didn't get it"

That's what I meant.

No one would/should be foolish enough to publicly counter-reveal my bid win claim, so as a contestant last Night who didn't win the bid, why would I pass up the opportunity to run interference for the real bid winner (who is hopefully Town)?

I could be lying about not having gotten it after having said I had, but I could be lying about saying I hadn't gotten it after saying I had. You know who you are.
 
*snip*

Maybe it's just the horrors of VI coming back but Blarg is acting a lot like he did when he played Scum in that game. Threw a bunch of things at the wall to see what stuck and once he got something good it was everything he talked about and pushed in discussion. Blarg is also asking us to make huge decisions not only on flavor but on knowledge that only he posses and we have no way of knowing if he is telling the truth.

Even before the clarification came forward having the poem be posted is what gave it away. You're pushing really hard for decisions that are based on you twisting flavor and having ''''''insider knowledge'''''' of everything.

VOTE: Blargonaut

3 others have the knowledge I possess, and 1 of them has more, owning the Xbox themselves; I assisted in the proof that me, Stan, *Splint and Kawl may not actually be all of Night 0's contestants, despite all of us being named as such.

and pls specify what "huge decisions" I'm Trumpesquely asking all 19 other players to consider; last time I checked, I wasn't the bro that advocated we lynch a Plinko result.

As a participant in the bidding last Night, I could've went 'fuck you, got etc.' like the other 3? are, and left you all discussing that named flavour without my insider input. That's gratitude for you. If it wasn't me who goaded the mod into confirming that was just Flavour, then who would it have eventually been? Someone would bring it up eventually. Would you lynch that person too?

and to top it all off, a false equivalence based on nostalgia as the foundation for your vote against me

That's fine
 
y'know what? i take it back.

his recent performance-art piece and further review of his initial actions has me feeling the opposite about blarg.

im thinking hes town.
 
Magnum,

I mean at the end of the day you are your own person, and you don't have to agree with me.

Again I'm not making any wild assumptions.

It doesn't matter whether or not Blarg won the Xbox.

It doesn't matter whether or not we know what exactly the Xbox does.

It doesn't matter whether or not we know who submitted bids last night.

What matters is the fact that Blarg was willing to come forward, unprompted, and claim that he was the Xbox winner.

Why does that matter?

It matters because if at any point in the future, any point at all, a prize winner reveals that their item gave them an ability, a flip will switch in the scum chat, and they will decide that all prize winners have to go.

That may not necessarily happen tonight. Maybe one or two days phases from now. But it just takes one prize winner to reveal that they got an ability, and ALL confirmed prize winners become scum targets. They will not take a chance with this. They would be stupid to.

Usually players that win prizes or roles keep that information secret until they have something useful to tell town. This is because as everybody knows, scum do not want town players with abilities alive in the game. Not only did he tell us he won a prize, but he didn't tell us what the prize did or give any useful information to help town win.

He took what could end up being a very big risk to his personal survival, to not tell town anything useful...

Coming forward that early and claiming he won the Xbox demonstrates that he is NOT scared that he will be targeted by scum, and again there are only two reasons why someone would not be afraid of being night killed.

All of Blarg's actions at this point should be a major red flag to you. I 100% get it. You're scared to mislynch, but this one is a gimme.

vote: Blargonaut

You're goddamn RIGHT it's a gimme

It's a "gimme a break"

MAFIA WANTING TO KILL PRIZEWINNERS IS OBVIOUS.

IT'S THE MOST OBVIOUS FACT IN THIS GAME.

Why would they NOT want to kill prizewinners?

These prizes can't just be meaningless MacGuffins, they're obviously x-shot power gifts; especially considering that a bid winner can't return to Contestants' Row for the remainder of the game. These prizes do something, and they do something that lasts.

You're acting like the fact that prizes do shit and scum wanting to preempt "confirmed" prizewinners, is some kind of monolithic revelatory #scumtell; what kind of inane, insubStantial accusation is this?

If people actually ride your shitpost against me, I would seriously question their motives, and/or ability for critical analysis

You're right that in the end, the points don't really matter; but take a step back and actually think about what a failed bid winner claimant can do. Fuck yeah what I did was a huge risk to my personal survival, that's why I did it. I'm a team player like that. And practical, too.
 

*Splinter

Member
As much as I hate to defend Blarg, Dusk is ignoring a real possibility of a fake claim in order to protect the real winner.

That said I still think he's scum, and tbh I thought I voted him yesterday.
Let me fix that:

VOTE: Blargonaut

And now you're trying to claim credit for confirming that fluff is fluff?

Blarg I have some water here, could you just check its wet for me? Ta.
 
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