The "PS3 Has No Games" stigma - Why is it still going strong?

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Kagari said:
To be fair, the PS3 is doing better this year already. The media has changed their outlook on it, people are buying the system AND they're buying games for it. You can't deny that the system IS gaining momentum that will be furthered by GT5:P, MGS4, and GTA4 in the next couple months.
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In japan, it is another story.

If I remember correctly, in 2008 the console is doing worse than in 2007.
 
Gaborn said:
Yeah but Sony chose to launch at $600, and from that point on all I've heard from Sony fans is not the price, but "Wait for" about a dozen different games, and each time, when the game either gives a temporary boost or it does nothing it's always "Well, yeah, but WAIT FOR..." and you gotta admit, that sounds a lot like "Well, all these other games aren't going to move systems but THIS game will"
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Kinda like don't worry MS will fix it, don't worry the zepher will do this, no wait the falcon. This gen has been all about waiting, I guess on both sides. :lol
 
wayward archer said:
I can only answer for myself.

If you're not a big MGS, Gran Turismo, or Final Fantasy fan (and I'm not) the system's exclusive lineup seems pretty barren. I'm not dissing the quality of those games, they are going to be AAA titles.

There are definitely a few games i'm interested in (LBP, Resistance 2, God of War 3, even MGS4), but it hasn't reached the critical mass of me wanting to throw down $400 for the hardware yet. I would buy MGS 4 on day one if I already had a PS3, but i'm not going to buy a PS3 in order to play MGS 4.

So many people just assume that you're crazy if you don't want to play those 4-5 incredible games coming out for system X... it just doesn't work that way and never has.
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Exact same POV as me...although I don't like the MGS series.
 
Kagari said:
To be fair, the PS3 is doing better this year already. The media has changed their outlook on it, people are buying the system AND they're buying games for it. You can't deny that the system IS gaining momentum that will be furthered by GT5:P, MGS4, and GTA4 in the next couple months.
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Yeah, but, in Japan at the moment for one example (and their home market) the PS3 is doing actually a bit WORSE than it was this time last year. In the US it's certainly doing a bit better, but I'm not sure that's true worldwide.

I agree it's doing better sales wise in the US though, but my point is the PERCEPTION the PS3 has no games is perpetuated by the Sony fans that would rather talk about how the games that are GOING to be released are GOING to boost sales rather than all of the wonderful games that are out now for the system.
 
muckhole said:
Maybe, as a 360 owner, he's not going to be interested in the multiplatform titles, and doesn't see enough that appeals to him in Sony's exclusive line-up at the moment to justify dropping $399. It isn't exactly small change.
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Exactly what I think. Sure there are some exclusive games I want but it's still too much while I have a 360 for the multiplatform games.
 
I own 90+ Playstation (ps1,psp,ps2) games and yet MGS4 is the first game to really make me consider getting PS3.

So yeah Sony sacrificed it's gaming crown of dominance for the glory of Brue Ray.


i think one thing ps3 and 360 owners can agree on is how shit the wii is.
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You'll be waggling in the next generation if you want to keep playing console games.
loser
 
It has some games, just not very many right now if you're hunting for the great or excellent titles. I was able to borrow my friend's PS3 and complete the games I wanted to, so no rush to buy until God of War 3 and FFXIII are out. 360 will keep me plenty of company until then.
 
A lot of these arguments sound a lot like the PS2 era. You're going to have people who'd say anything to make themselves feel better about not owning a PS3 especially now that the bigger titles are arriving.

Then you'll have guys making threads about how they finally got a PS3 asking about which 3+ year old games they should catch up on.

At this point and time the price argument is pretty weak to me. You either want it or you don't. The competing HD consoles are priced similarly and pretty much have the same games, excluding exclusives of course. You should ask him why he threw down 300$+ for a 360 just to get a rise out of him.
 
I have to say that as long as people get pissy about it others will continue to propagate the myth that the PS3 has no games.

Let it go and the idea will disappear before you know it....or so I think.

Anyway OP you still haven't posted your friend's gamertag.
 
Firewire said:
:lol

I hope not!
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It's a copycat industry, considering the success the Wii has seen, why WOULDN'T MS and Sony go the route of waggle? with Sony the main thing they'd need to do is put the PSEye standard with their next console. I suppose Microsoft would have to design something completely from scratch though so in their case it might be more difficult to make it wortwhile.
 
Firewire said:
:lol

I hope not!
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I think the next generation will indeed have waggle and HD as everyone converges on such. Mind you, I don't think it'll be forced waggle but there will be a market for it as each console supports it out of the box.
 
Firewire said:
:lol

I hope not!
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So you think they'll just watch when Nintendo makes everything with just a fraction of the cost they do it, and still makes bigger bucks?

:lol

The day waggle will be announced for PS4 and XY, you start loving it. Instantly. You'd do well to remember that dudes.
 
Gaborn said:
It's a copycat industry, considering the success the Wii has seen, why WOULDN'T MS and Sony go the route of waggle? with Sony the main thing they'd need to do is put the PSEye standard with their next console. I suppose Microsoft would have to design something completely from scratch though so in their case it might be more difficult to make it wortwhile.
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If waggle becomes the norm for either 360 or PS3, count me out next gen. I had a Wii from its launch and I've experienced the sometimes horrible controls with it. Still today when I watch reviews the motion controls get mentioned as a negative, apparently only Nintendo can make it work right in their own games.

Just the thought of trying to go through Red Steele makes me cringe.
 
Firewire said:
If waggle becomes the norm for either 360 or PS3, count me out next gen. I had a Wii from its launch and I've experienced the sometimes horrible controls with it. Still today when I watch reviews the motion controls get mentioned as a negative, apparently only Nintendo can make it work right in their own games.

Just the thought of trying to go through Red Steele makes me cringe.
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Growing pains. As titles are released, more standardized control methods using that form of input will come across. Sometimes it takes a bit of ingenuity as the DS suffered from a similar stigma with its touchscreen iirc. A lot of usage of it has been pathetic but then there are strokes of genius like the recent Ninja Gaiden DS.
 
Narag said:
Growing pains. As titles are released, more standardized control methods using that form of input will come across. Sometimes it takes a bit of ingenuity as the DS suffered from a similar stigma with its touchscreen iirc. A lot of usage of it has been pathetic but then there are strokes of genius like the recent Ninja Gaiden DS.
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This. There are always going to be excellent uses for any control scheme and horrific uses. Look at the earlier days of analog controls vs the later years (for example, Superman64 vs... well, anything released since)
 
Let's not forget that we are still in the beginning of this generation. I think we should have some patience.

We all want longer next-gen games with even more quality, I hope.
 
antiloop said:
Let's not forget that we are still in the beginning of this generation. I think we should have some patience.

We all want longer next-gen games with even more quality, I hope.
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2 years in is closer to the middle, using the 5 year generation cycle.
 
Narag said:
That was a 3rd party peripheral/game set, no?
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Indeed. I still doubt Sony plans on launching a PS2mote right when sales of PS3 are slightly gaining momentum. It would mean "we officially hate PS3".
 
zoukka said:
The day waggle will be announced for PS4 and XY, you start loving it. Instantly. You'd do well to remember that dudes.
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PS3 has had semi-waggle since launch. We're still not loving it.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
2 years in is closer to the middle, using the 5 year generation cycle.
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Japanese PS2 released March 4, 2000
Japanese PS3 released 11 November, 2006

So almost 7 years. PS3 has been out for only 1-1.5 year depending on where you live.
 
Because people mean exclusive games when they say "no games," mostly because the people saying this have a 360 already, and quite honestly, when some of the multiplatform games coming out are still better on 360 (which is still fucking ridiculous), can you blame people for propagating this rumor?
 
hauton said:
How the fuck has this thread still gone on?

THE PS3 FUCKING HAS GAMES, THE 360 FUCKING HAS GAMES. YOUR SUBJECTIVE FUCKING OPINION OF THOSE FUCKING GAMES IS NOT A VALID FUCKING ARGUMENT FOR TRYING TO FUCKING TROLL THAT EITHER CONSOLE HAS NO FUCKING GAMES.

Eat a cock, you zealot faggots.
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Quoting to highlight a board idiot.


Why is this thread still going? is a better query.
 
-The "PS3 Has No Games" stigma - Why is it still going strong?

-The "ShooterBox 360" stigma- Why is it still going strong?

-The "Next-Gen Sucks/PS2 rules "stigma -Why is it still going strong?

It just happens.
 
Ænima said:
I think the real question is, why does the phrase "the ps3 has no games" personally offend some of you so deeply?
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who wouldn't defend their $600+tax dollar purchases? :lol
 
Ænima said:
I think the real question is, why does the phrase "the ps3 has no games" personally offend some of you so deeply?
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Essentially I view it as a paradox for Sony fans. The PS3 does not seem to be selling well (particularly in Japan but it's not doing great in the US either), therefore there is a need to explain the lackluster sales. With price cuts making an economic argument less tenable the natural reaction is to blame lackluster sales on games currently released not being good enough, and that FUTURE games will be better. Unfortunately this translates in some Sony fans minds as unacceptable because it is conceeding that other consoles have more games. Therefore the argument that the PS3 doesn't have any good games out (the inevitable translation of "none of their games are selling well, so wait for x") causes these PS3 fans to create a feedback loop.

Much like the buttered cat.
 
Yoboman said:
False

Why should I? PS3 doesn't make a great secondary console, and neither does 360. If I started crossing out every game on 360 that I could play elsewhere, I could just as easily apply the same logic that it "has no games"
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Actually PS3 has been the best secondary console I have ever owned. Huge selection of HD movies broken up by a sprinkling of short entertaining exclusives throughout the year. Just enough to give my 360 a break
(or hold me over till I receive it back from the service center)
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Ænima said:
I think the real question is, why does the phrase "the ps3 has no games" personally offend some of you so deeply?
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Because people state is as fact, or use it as an argument, but it is totally, 100%, subjective.
 
inner-G said:
Because people state is as fact, or use it as an argument, but it is totally, 100%, subjective.
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And any sane person recognizes this and moves along but its always a fight on gaf.
 
Narag said:
And any sane person recognizes this and moves along but its always a fight on gaf.
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hence the reason this thread is still going. If people stopped trying to defend it and just let it go, it would probably be on page 8 by now and totally irrelevant.
 
Japans reason for getting into HD gaming will be FFXIII. That's it. It could have been Monster Hunter 3, but Capcom decided to gimp it by putting it on the Wii.
 
Gaborn said:
Essentially I view it as a paradox for Sony fans. The PS3 does not seem to be selling well (particularly in Japan but it's not doing great in the US either), therefore there is a need to explain the lackluster sales. With price cuts making an economic argument less tenable the natural reaction is to blame lackluster sales on games currently released not being good enough, and that FUTURE games will be better. Unfortunately this translates in some Sony fans minds as unacceptable because it is conceeding that other consoles have more games. Therefore the argument that the PS3 doesn't have any good games out (the inevitable translation of "none of their games are selling well, so wait for x") causes these PS3 fans to create a feedback loop.

Much like the buttered cat.
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Gaborn's post should be stickied so we don't have to see more threads like these.
 
I dont know how this stigma, was attached to the ps3. Its these idiot fanboys, who were comparing 360 2nd generation games to ps3's 1st generation games. When you look at Resistance, heavenly sword, uncharted, warhawk, all first generation games, are better then 360's first generatiom games. But they get put up against, their 2nd gen games. Not to mention how MS is in all the gaming mags and wesites pockets in america. If uncharted, or heavenly sword was a x box exclusive, when Xbox first came out, forget about it. It would of been raved about getting 10 scores. But you know xbox is american made, so its going to get pushed harder here, like sony and nintendo, destroys MS in Japan
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
In japan, it is another story.

If I remember correctly, in 2008 the console is doing worse than in 2007.
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It had a stonger start but lost steam, so, you can't really say if its better or worse than 2007, maybe its just a sasonal bad sales period.

Considering what sony did for PSP in japan, im not really worried with ps3. Eventually sony will manage to make PS3 a good seller in japan. They know their market, they know what to do.
 
rodneyrom27 said:
Not to mention how MS is in all the gaming mags and wesites pockets in america. If uncharted, or heavenly sword was a x box exclusive, when Xbox first came out, forget about it.
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I want to know how THESE stigmas still exist.
 
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