The "PS3 Has No Games" stigma - Why is it still going strong?
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.fortified_concept
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Because fanboys are fanboys.
Simple.
Simple.
Jamesfrom818 said:
1. Way to sidestep calling me a Sony fanboy
2. Who's arguing against best being subjective? Odds are, there will be games that will appeal to someone on each of the consoles that you can only find on individual consoles. Call me optimistic, but I like to think that people are a bit open minded when it comes to games.
Kestastrophe
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wat. Sauce pleaseDr. Kitty Muffins said:
MedievalManIII
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Sensationalist news inseminates the baseless lies.
These type of memes need to be erased.
These type of memes need to be erased.
pulga
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Malakhov said:
As a Wii and 360 owner, I've only interest in two of those games: Uncharted and Resistance. If I wanted oblivion or VF5, I'd get them for my 360. So, no good enough reason to buy a PS3..yet. Call me back when GOW3 and the next Team Ico game comes out. This is the position the OP's cousin is in now, basically. We're playing the waiting game.
OldJadedGamer
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solid2snake said:yeah...
Just because it's *almost* available doesn't mean everyone will support it. Example: The PS3's best selling and highest ranked game in the US Call of Duty 4.
John Harker said:
Amen. EoJ and Ratchet are the 2 full retail games I have bought for the PS3 whereas I have about 30 retail 360 games. Things would probably be the exact opposite if the ps3 launched first however, the 1 year lead (+ xbox live/achievement integration) really did Microsoft a lot of good in this age of non-exclusivity. PS3 downloadable games have been really solid though, with about the same amount of truly worthwhile games even with the XBLA headstart.
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Kestastrophe said:
I posted awhile back about getting a refurb 20GB PS3 for 350. I signed up for a Sony credit card that gave me 100 bucks off my first purchase so it came out to 250.
I installed a 250GB HDD that I found at geeks.com on sale for 99 bucks (109 with shipping).
For some odd reason, I'm playing through Growlanser 3 like a mad man and wishing Vic Ireland would come swooping in to save the downloadable console games industry with localized japanese JRPG's. I'm clearly nuts.
ScrabbleBanshee said:
Missed this the first time around...
I've owned a 360 since launch, and got a PS3 for xmas. There's very little reason to own both. I think the 'the ps3 has no games' in this case is making multi-platform titles a wash since he can already play them.
Most multiplatform stuff has had better performance on the 360. Those that have broken even, in cases like his, get purchased on the 360 because he's established a friends list on there for multiplayer, or has gotten bitten by the achievement/gamerscore bug.
I've played a lot on PS3 since I've picked it up, but it's because I've made an effort to. I picked up Assassin's Creed on the PS3 because I wanted a game to play on it and was rewarded with terrible screen tearing. I traded CoD4 360 for the PS3 version and dealt with having no friends playing it. I bought Burnout on PS3 because it had marginally better performance on the PS3, and got the same friends situation... in fact, I still haven't played online because of it.
There are decent 1st party, but not what I'd consider enough for a 360 owner to justify the purchase. Ratchet and Uncharted were fantastic. Resistance was ok, but a 360 owner isn't in dire need of another shooter. Same goes for Warhawk. Lair and Heavenly Sword get lauded by people here that want to justify the purchase, but because they got panned by the gaming press, you aren't going to take a $400 chance, really.
The 'omg, then what am I playing' thing is dumb... I've seen it in threads for the PS3 and the Wii, and it's a difference of perspective. It's a fanboy response to a fanboy argument. You bought everything that got over a 7.0 on metacritic? Awesome, we're all impressed.
Kestastrophe
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Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
I hope they have that credit card offer again. I almost sprung on that deal before, but if they offered that same deal again I would bite.
Mammothtank
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So were those games worth $5,400.00 US Dollars?
It's not that is has no games, it's that it has no games relative to the competition.
A lot of the stuff on PS3 is cross-platform releases, and those that aren't really don't stand out as system selling titles, even Uncharted, as great as it is, doesn't excite people.
I have a PS3, and I tend to favor PS3 versions of games because I like the way the console works better than the 360 (and there's no fear of it failing outright from regular gameplay), but Sony has an image problem of their own creation. They really don't have enough system specific software for people to get excited about their console, and what's there is often too "Me too!" to help.
A lot of the stuff on PS3 is cross-platform releases, and those that aren't really don't stand out as system selling titles, even Uncharted, as great as it is, doesn't excite people.
I have a PS3, and I tend to favor PS3 versions of games because I like the way the console works better than the 360 (and there's no fear of it failing outright from regular gameplay), but Sony has an image problem of their own creation. They really don't have enough system specific software for people to get excited about their console, and what's there is often too "Me too!" to help.
Mammothtank
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Defcon said:
Every PS3 exclusive has to justify $599 US Dollars.
Dave Long said:
This is the year where that really seems to be turning around though. Both PSN and retail have some really awesome exclusive titles, and on top of that they're getting the majority of 3rd Party on the console as well.
Mammothtank said:
Don't be a moron. The PS3 certainly has justified itself in my household. I browse the internet, stream music, watch movies, and play games. Region free means I can freely import games that aren't out here yet (Yakuza 3), and the build quality means I don't worry about when it's going to die.
Every exclusive PS3 game is just icing on the cake. It's a great system worth your time. If you have a 360 already, it's a hard sell, but I'd imagine that if people's 360s keep breaking, they'll eventually sell off their collections. I can't imagine the hassle of replacing a console 2+ times.
Dead Prince
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Defcon said:
Uncharted is a $60 game but plays like a million dollar ;(
Mammothtank
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KTallguy said:
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Games on PSN have no influence on console sales IMO, certainly not among the masses.KTallguy said:
The whole idea of buying games via some built-in service is entirely alien to people in the greater videogame market. Hardcore gamers are driving all of that, and not anyone else.
People in a store don't have the faintest idea there's something called PSN or Xbox Live Marketplace or WiiWare or even Virtual Console. They see what's available on the racks next to the machine. PS3 has the least amount of available games, and many of them can be found on the other racks too.
That's a problem.
Alex
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I think it's doing pretty fine thus far, for coming out a year after the 360. It's probably got a solid 6-7 good exclusives (for my tastes) and the majority of 360's PC/Multi-plat lineup out or coming. I have 9 games for my PS3, compared to 13 for my 360, I really don't consider that bad for the gap.
I normally do not care for sales but I'm curious to see what PS3 does when it's big stuff starts hitting. Sony's personal studios produces some ridiculously strong content, I hope more of it is shown before too long as well.
I don't even know why the Wii lineup had to be brought up, but I can't even begin to understand Tom Clancy addicted you'd have to be to shrug off some of it's library. Good shit that came out a heck of a lot faster than on the GC. Just needs some damn Pikmin.
Anyway, all that said, I dont blame anyone for not wanting to own anything this generation. Shit is expensive, and good software is more commonplace than ever. System wars nonsense aside, a normal person could just own any one of the three or just play PC games or handhelds, etc, and have more than a full plate.
I normally do not care for sales but I'm curious to see what PS3 does when it's big stuff starts hitting. Sony's personal studios produces some ridiculously strong content, I hope more of it is shown before too long as well.
I don't even know why the Wii lineup had to be brought up, but I can't even begin to understand Tom Clancy addicted you'd have to be to shrug off some of it's library. Good shit that came out a heck of a lot faster than on the GC. Just needs some damn Pikmin.
Anyway, all that said, I dont blame anyone for not wanting to own anything this generation. Shit is expensive, and good software is more commonplace than ever. System wars nonsense aside, a normal person could just own any one of the three or just play PC games or handhelds, etc, and have more than a full plate.
ChaoticBlue
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i don't see a need of must have games for the 360 too. most of the games out for it can be played on my pc or ps3. :lol
Mammothtank
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Doubledex said:
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SIP YEK NOD
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Tom Penny said:
so your definition of worth owning is a game that can blow your socks off? good or great games aren't worth owning? a game falls into 2 categories, excellent and not worth owning?
SIP YEK NOD said:
That depends on how much expendable income you have, or how broad your tastes are.
I was buying a lot of PS3 games before, but now that there's more selection, I've been (heh) more selective with my purchases.
In a perfect world, I'd only buy games that are truly excellent. I just don't have all the time in the world to play shit games that get good after the first disc.
The long short of it is that people that don't own a ps3 yet don't count multiplatform games at all, cut all of those out and what are you left with really ? A couple racing games, a handful of sports titles, Uncharted, heavenly sword, lair , folklore, genji 2, ratchet future, resistance. Go one step further and the games people usually pick up the console to play aren't out for a couple more months or even a year or more- Final Fantasy, Gran tourismo, MGS4.
It's the same problem psp has, in the psp's case the arguement is that the best games can be downloaded on a pc or played on a ps2 and for the most part it's true but it still has some decent games just not enough to please the average mainstream audience enough.
Even the original xbox suffered from this issue a little bit, sure you could argue easily that 90% of it's ports were better then the ps2 or gamecube editions but it was still just ports and unlike right now the ps2 also had swaths of it's own exclusive content, there were simply tons of games to choose from.
It's the same problem psp has, in the psp's case the arguement is that the best games can be downloaded on a pc or played on a ps2 and for the most part it's true but it still has some decent games just not enough to please the average mainstream audience enough.
Even the original xbox suffered from this issue a little bit, sure you could argue easily that 90% of it's ports were better then the ps2 or gamecube editions but it was still just ports and unlike right now the ps2 also had swaths of it's own exclusive content, there were simply tons of games to choose from.
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ScrabbleBanshee said:
The stigma that a system gets in its first 6 - 12 months of existence stay with it an entire generation. No amount of actual change will change people's minds.
The PS3 has no games is the new The Gamecube is a kiddy system.
Just accept it and move on.
Other than the hardware argument (which is completely invalidated by how shitty most 3rd party games are on the PS3), there is not a single compelling reason why any gamer should choose the PS3 over the 360 if they're interested in games that aren't Sony exclusives.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
permutated
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I don't understand why people even care if other people talk shit about a consoles library, I mean if you have fun with your system let those idiots bathe in their own filth.
PistolGrip
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Once you are labeled is very hard to shake it off. I heard the 360 has no games argument until Wii and PS3 came out and then people dropped it because they compared it to the new systems.
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JB1981 said:
Controller preference? Free online?
gregor7777
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Innotech said:
What are you insinuating, good sir?
speculawyer
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It has a few good games now . . . but they are all pretty much full price whereas you can buy lots of great 360 games for $19.99 or $29.99 these days.
The situation is definitely getting much better though. And Blu-Ray victory was good for the PS3.
The situation is definitely getting much better though. And Blu-Ray victory was good for the PS3.
Green Shinobi
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To be perfectly honest, and I know that this will not be a very popular post, the 360's exclusive lineup completely blows the PS3's away at the moment, and will continue to do so until at least the second half of this year.Xisiqomelir said:
I'm just being honest here.
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