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The Resistance: Avalon [mafia?] |OT| I Put on my Robe and Wizard Hat
- Thread starter Droplet
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Well. I still can't be sure I picked the right team, but hopefully I got lucky.
In the case that I didn't, we're going to need to get it right next time.
It's still worth discussing why people rejected it or approved it. I see no reason to assume we've won, even if the votes look damning at the moment.
In the case that I didn't, we're going to need to get it right next time.
It's still worth discussing why people rejected it or approved it. I see no reason to assume we've won, even if the votes look damning at the moment.
They're the same people that I already have proposed too, I trust them. That's why I approved.
This was largely my logic. I would have picked a similar team, and I didn't want LoC to have a chance at team 4, nor Ultron for Team 5. I'm fine with them being T1 and T2 on the next one though.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Notice I said I would approve it before actually rejecting it? It was an attempt to bait scum.
But in the case that 4/5 of the remaining town is on that team, then good job. If this one passes then Quest 4 is guaranteed to succeed.
But in the case that 4/5 of the remaining town is on that team, then good job. If this one passes then Quest 4 is guaranteed to succeed.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Passing this was a mistake.
If it succeeds, it doesn't really matter who we add, since scum needs 2 fails next quest.
If it fails, we're back to square one. I'm somewhat leaning towards Kalor being scum and L_P being town despite this latest vote, due to the first vote. I'd probably swap Ultron for L_P and hope for the best.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Quest 3 has SUCCEEDED.
Lord of Castamere now has 48 hours to submit a team of five players for approval.
Note: Evil will have to submit two "Fails" to successfully sabotage Quest 4.
Lord of Castamere now has 48 hours to submit a team of five players for approval.
Note: Evil will have to submit two "Fails" to successfully sabotage Quest 4.
Lord of Castamere
Member
FINALPROPOSAL:
TheExodu5
ultron87
Palmer_V1
CzarTim
Rynam
TheExodu5
ultron87
Palmer_V1
CzarTim
Rynam
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
The proposal phase for Quest 4, Proposal 1 has ended. The proposed team is TheExodu5, ultron87, Palmer_v1, CzarTim and Rynam. You all have 24 hours to approve or reject this team. Please PM me your votes and refrain from posting here until time is over.
kingkitty and the rest of the Evil team have correctly deduced the identity of Merlin, and have therefore won the game! Congrats Evil!
Roles:
Merlin: Rynam
Percival: TheExodu5
Loyal Servants of Arthur: Lone_Prodigy, Palmer_v1, CzarTim, ultron87
The Assassin: kingkitty
Morgana: UltraJay
Minions of Mordred: Kalor, Lord of Castamere
Minion chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/xeL3f44TEg5
Lord of Castamere
Member
Sorry guys /: That was too easy. Kinda feels like a hollow victory.
Good game. I had fun.
Figured we were boned on Merlin. I did try to make it seem as though I was coming up with fake theories to make me seem like a more experienced Merlin, but yeah, Rynam picking 6 town was too much.
As a heads up to new Merlins, you should probably never make your votes and picks that flawless.
Figured we were boned on Merlin. I did try to make it seem as though I was coming up with fake theories to make me seem like a more experienced Merlin, but yeah, Rynam picking 6 town was too much.
As a heads up to new Merlins, you should probably never make your votes and picks that flawless.
That was a fun game and I would be interested in playing again if we did it. It was a nice change in pace compared to regular Avalon or Mafia.
Though I agree that LoC that it is a bit of a hollow victory. It was clear from Rynam's first proposal that he had some kind of knowledge or luck.
Though I agree that LoC that it is a bit of a hollow victory. It was clear from Rynam's first proposal that he had some kind of knowledge or luck.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Oh the flavor... Oh... ):
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Ugh, I thought that might happen.
We really did have 3 town on the first quest, huh.
We really did have 3 town on the first quest, huh.
Aside from Merlin and wisdom teeth, that was our most discussed topic! I mean, for like 4 whole posts but spectator chat wasn't much more alive than this thread.
My face hurts
If we play again, I would definitely tweak things and add more roles. I mostly have experience with 6-8 player games, so it's a bit hard to figure out the balance for 10 players.
Sadly, it takes a good 3-4 games to really get the balance right in my experience.
Lady of the lake would be very interesting for 10 players, but would probably slow things down a lot. Might want to skip that for a forum game.
I'd say the balance is a bit evil shifted in this format.
The first thing I would change is not allow the evil team to discuss strategy beforehand. This completely eliminates a dimension from the game, as it's a very valid tactic to throw several minions on a team for a potential double fail.
Besides that, you could add Oberon and possibly Mordred, but I'd probably stick to one change per game.
Sadly, it takes a good 3-4 games to really get the balance right in my experience.
Lady of the lake would be very interesting for 10 players, but would probably slow things down a lot. Might want to skip that for a forum game.
I'd say the balance is a bit evil shifted in this format.
The first thing I would change is not allow the evil team to discuss strategy beforehand. This completely eliminates a dimension from the game, as it's a very valid tactic to throw several minions on a team for a potential double fail.
Besides that, you could add Oberon and possibly Mordred, but I'd probably stick to one change per game.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
My reads were garbage. What made Rynam stand out as Merlin? His relative inactivity (I think I only saw him make proposals)?
EDIT: Just wanted to say thanks to Rats and Droplet for running a very punctual game, and congrats to the scum team. Apologies to town for seeming so belligerent; I was operating on the fact that it wasn't conventional Mafia and I could post whatever I want without fear of being voted out.
EDIT: Just wanted to say thanks to Rats and Droplet for running a very punctual game, and congrats to the scum team. Apologies to town for seeming so belligerent; I was operating on the fact that it wasn't conventional Mafia and I could post whatever I want without fear of being voted out.
He passed any team with only town on it. He rejected any team with scum on it. He picked no less than all 6 town players when making his team.
His proposal was very random at the time it was made and it was conveniently all good players. The proposal itself did jump out to me though I'll admit, I had stopped caring about Merlin's identity about halfway through so I didn't connect the dots.
Those changes sound perfect.
Also, I wouldn't bother creating a separate chat at all. Minions should discuss in the main thread post game. That makes the wait for the end more enjoyable and suspenseful for the rest of us.
Oh they were communicating the entire time? There's no way that works for this game. I thought a pre-game chat was bad enough.
I also just generally dislike Merlin It's too swingy. I'm a big fan of Oberon though, and the Lady of the Lake, though they swing it to Town's favor a bit.
I also just generally dislike Merlin It's too swingy. I'm a big fan of Oberon though, and the Lady of the Lake, though they swing it to Town's favor a bit.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Hmm okay something to keep in mind for future games. My approvals/rejections were kind of random.
No, they only communicated pre-game and "post-game"
The post-game portion was just to discuss Merlin.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Well, I can address the separate scum chat. I like the idea of keeping the Merlin hunt separate since I don't want to tell Good "you won!" and then "just kidding" within a 24 hour period. I felt that was too long a time for them to wait, so it was easier to not announce we were even on the last quest and just to have Evil discuss it.
The pre-game chat was Rats' idea because players are normally friends who have an idea of how to interact with each other, have metas to throw fails, or at the very least can make eye contact before they do anything. I don't think this particular one helped or hurt scum in any way, but if we were to use it again I wouldn't announce the proposal list beforehand. But I think you guys can handle no chat, although the whole building camaraderie thing was nice.
And no, scum couldn't talk to each other during the actual game.
Other stuff, I'd like to put more hidden roles in the game to make Merlin less of a walking target. And I think Czar is right in making proposal phases go faster. Initially they were actually 36 hours to make sure everyone could see and comment on them, but apparently that was no good so we extended it to 48.
The pre-game chat was Rats' idea because players are normally friends who have an idea of how to interact with each other, have metas to throw fails, or at the very least can make eye contact before they do anything. I don't think this particular one helped or hurt scum in any way, but if we were to use it again I wouldn't announce the proposal list beforehand. But I think you guys can handle no chat, although the whole building camaraderie thing was nice.
And no, scum couldn't talk to each other during the actual game.
Other stuff, I'd like to put more hidden roles in the game to make Merlin less of a walking target. And I think Czar is right in making proposal phases go faster. Initially they were actually 36 hours to make sure everyone could see and comment on them, but apparently that was no good so we extended it to 48.
I sort of prefer resistance and the mission leader cards =p
We use those WITH avalon sometimes for fun.
BTW, in the midst of all this, I discovered that BGG has an entire play by forum area for resistance and avalon, including tournaments and shit. Might want to poke your head in there to see how they do some things.
Merlin sounds like the hardest thing ever to play. Props to Rynam regardless for being cursed/awarded with that role first in gafia. Experimental nature oif this on the forums aside, he had a lot of meta that he had to try to work with from nothing.
Yeah I saw that as well. They had some ridiculous 10 player game with Lady of the Lake, and two roles/aspects I have never heard of: Excalibur and Gallahad.