Error Macro
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It's not like they even need to tone down They Live anyway. The only time they ever show it is at like 3 in the morning.
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The stupidest example of TV editing EVER.
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Scarface DVD has a featurette that compares the TV and theatrical versions of the film.
TV
"Where'd you get the beauty scar, toughguy? Eating pineapple?"
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"Where'd you get the beauty scar, toughguy? Eating pussy?"
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"Where'd you get the beauty scar, toughguy? Eating pineapple?"
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"Where'd you get the beauty scar, toughguy? Eating pussy?"
BobbyRobby
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Eminem said:
That's definitely the worst offender.
Error Macro
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Flynn said:
I agree. I can't understand why they didn't include those scenes (or maybe use seamless branching) and the Ray Parker Jr. music video when they came out with the Special Edition.
Error Macro said:
Alternate take trivia:
It's a diverging subject, but people like Abbot and Costello and Laurel and Hardy would shoot every scene of their shorts and movies in several different languages for worldwide distribution. Universal shot Dracula shot for shot identical and on the same sets as the Bela Lugosi classic except with all Spanish actors.
Back on subject:
I think the most famous bad TV edit was Smokey and the Bandit, because the actor they got to cover up all of Gleason's profanity sounded like a drunk Fred Flintstone.
Actually, you hit the nail on the head. The reason the line was censored was not in spite of the beer commercial or an example of some hypocritical, puritannical network standard, but because of it. Program content cannot seem to endorse commercial content, i.e. the beer commercial.Minotauro said:
Another example I'm familiar with from working in TV in the past includes children's shows. You can't advertise Transformers during the Transformers shows, for instance. One kid's sitcom had an episode featuring a talent show where the characters sang the song, "I Want Candy." Jolly Ranchers ads had to be dropped from that broadcast. They even went as far as to edit out a reference to Metamucil in some movie because that sponsor had bought ad time during the time slot.
So now you see, television censorship isn't all to do with decency standards, it's also about FCC commercial advertising regulations.
Teddman said:
Hm, that's odd. I never even considered that. There's a ton of product placement in mainstream movies though. Do you mean to tell me that everytime someone drinks a can of Coke in a movie, the logo has to be blurred when they show it on television? Or, could they just not advertise Coke during the same block of programming?
MrPing1000
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The USA government controls u and yur TV!
Warm Machine
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Man Canadian TV is so much better. I haven't really watched a movie on a regular network in such a long time. When I do catch one it is always the non gutted version.
They may lose some of their impact, but I think that's an acceptable trade-off to be able to hear movies and songs on television and not have them butchered to hell. Besides, words that aren't obscene can still have plenty of impact; consider "I'm angry" versus "I'm enraged".scola said:
I'm not sure what you mean by this. The newest English obscenity I could find was "fuck", and it appeared in writing in the early 16th century -- newer than many English words, certainly, but definitely not a candidate for "changing often".Bad words are certainly not archaic, that they change as often as (or even more often than in some cases) the rest of our speach speaks volumes about their importance
Obscene words grew mainly out of describing the taboo/indecent, during times when discussions of things like going to the bathroom and having sex had to be minced around. Now that our society is more accepting of such things, the words are only kept obscene because we allow them to be -- their original purpose is long out-dated, much like saying "God bless you". This is what I was referring to when I said that we have an inability to get rid of many of these now-useless elements from our past.
Right, not advertise during that block of programming. But it depends on time of day and particular network policy. Some of the examples I gave were more strict, because children's programming is more tightly regulated. And I forgot to mention that it's not always advertising conflicts, but sometimes "public responsibilty," AKA they don't want to risk even the remote possibility of litigation over product claims.Minotauro said:
For example, I remember that in the Metamucil example, the character in the movie said something like, "I take my Metamucil so that I get my daily fiber and keep the old colon clean." The TV network did not want to be responsible for that claim, so safer to just remove it completely.
In the case of Training Day and the beer, maybe they got nervous because the characters had been driving or were going to drive later and didn't want to seem like they were advocating DUI. A beer commercial during that block could have made it even touchier, since maybe the advertiser did not want to be associated with dirty cops drinking beer. Broadcast networks have to be careful about that stuff or they can get sued, so often they are super cautious.
Hey, thanks for the info, Teddman! Content editing has always been something of great interest to me. It's funny to think that behind every stupid instance of censorship, there is an equally stupid regulation behind it. Oh, well, I guess the scumfuck lawyers of the world need work too.
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tedtropy said:
I actually like these "creative" replacements, for shits n giggles. Thing is, if you really want to see the movie, rent the DVD I say.
Comedy Central had Jay and Silent Bob Strike back uncensored this weekend at like 1-2am. The warning said language and nudity. I didnt see enough to see if there was nudity but I guess so. I did hear a ton of "fuck" though. Comedy Central's also done the South Park movie uncensored
Prince of Space
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You guys are missing out on a classic:
Pulp Fiction -- when Vincent accidentally shoots Marvin in the face. The censors actually SHOW the back of his head exploding, but then the screen goes black, Vincent says, "Oh man, I just shot Marvin in the face," and the scene automatically shifts to Jules and Vincent drinking coffee with Jimmy. No explanation on why they're there or anything, just a clumsy cut. There are obviously many more (Pulp Fiction, like The Big Lebowski, just doesn't work censored), but that one sticks out the most to me.
Pulp Fiction -- when Vincent accidentally shoots Marvin in the face. The censors actually SHOW the back of his head exploding, but then the screen goes black, Vincent says, "Oh man, I just shot Marvin in the face," and the scene automatically shifts to Jules and Vincent drinking coffee with Jimmy. No explanation on why they're there or anything, just a clumsy cut. There are obviously many more (Pulp Fiction, like The Big Lebowski, just doesn't work censored), but that one sticks out the most to me.
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