The Surge - Behind the scenes
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DevilTakoyaki
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Fuck that 4th boss man. I've been trying for a few hours now.
I need to stop and go to sleep bcuz I've got work tomorrow...
I need to stop and go to sleep bcuz I've got work tomorrow...
Fuck that 4th boss man. I've been trying for a few hours now.
I need to stop and go to sleep bcuz I've got work tomorrow...
Is it difficult or is it "bullshit i get fucked by the game" difficult.
Fuck that 4th boss man. I've been trying for a few hours now.
I need to stop and go to sleep bcuz I've got work tomorrow...
So is it a Git Gud moment?
Fuck that 4th boss man. I've been trying for a few hours now.
I need to stop and go to sleep bcuz I've got work tomorrow...
So every epic victory I've had in Bloodborne? Oh yeah I'm gonna like this game
Fuck that 4th boss man. I've been trying for a few hours now.
I need to stop and go to sleep bcuz I've got work tomorrow...
Hoooboy. Even though I love this type of game, my tolerance for super hard games seems to be waning. I summoned for the last few Nioh bosses, mainly because I was wildly under leveled.
Still probably buying The Surge. Zero willpower.
Yes this game is hard. And I've played through every Souls game, Nioh and Bloodborne solo without any summons and this game is testing me. You just really, really have to be careful with your attacks and dealing with multiple enemies. You can be dropped quickly.
As for the embargo mess. I will say the publisher was super nice. He said he went and watched some of my videos and actually wished me success. Complimented my channels lack of screaming over videos and appreciated my impressions I gave. Even the negative ones. On top of that, whoever complained wanted me to get a strike on my channel, but the person who responded to me said that's harsh and they just requested politely to make it private for a day. Really cool of them. I'm just glad I was able to give out some info to you guys.
That's why I make my videos man, to just share and be apart of gaming and the community around it. It's what I love to do, I'm happy even though my channel is tiny people here appreciate my approach. Thanks for all the kind words gaf, you guys have been awesome!
As for the embargo mess. I will say the publisher was super nice. He said he went and watched some of my videos and actually wished me success. Complimented my channels lack of screaming over videos and appreciated my impressions I gave. Even the negative ones. On top of that, whoever complained wanted me to get a strike on my channel, but the person who responded to me said that's harsh and they just requested politely to make it private for a day. Really cool of them. I'm just glad I was able to give out some info to you guys.
That's why I make my videos man, to just share and be apart of gaming and the community around it. It's what I love to do, I'm happy even though my channel is tiny people here appreciate my approach. Thanks for all the kind words gaf, you guys have been awesome!
More_Badass
Member
Has the enemy variety been decent? Also how grindy has the gear progression been? Needing to collect multiples of the same weapon/gear to craft seems like it might get annoying
And yeah, that Nioh review you shared definitely got me to subscribe. I only really watch gaming youtube channels for discussion and analysis (ie Game Makers Toolkit, Extra Credit, Cane and Rinse, Ultrabrilliant) and your stuff was well-spoken, concise, and to the point
More_Badass
Member
A preview based on six hours of play
https://www.pcgamesn.com/the-surge/the-surge-vs-dark-souls
https://www.pcgamesn.com/the-surge/the-surge-vs-dark-souls
DevilTakoyaki
Member
One thing that I loved about this game and forgot to mention is, you will get a new move/combo when you level up your weapon proficiency.
I'll make a new video about every weapon in action again, after I've got a maximum level on each type of weapon.
Oh boy, this game is so gooooooooood. xD
I'll make a new video about every weapon in action again, after I've got a maximum level on each type of weapon.
Oh boy, this game is so gooooooooood. xD
More_Badass
Member
Do all weapons in a class share the same moves (ie all twin-rigged), or do different twin-rigged weapons, for example, have different moves?
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Deleted member 325805
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Did you play Lords of the Fallen? Did you enjoy it?
Haha this preview is going to trigger the more hardcore Souls fans. Gotta say I like a lot of what I'm hearing about this game.
Several people have said its harder than Nioh and even some of the Souls games but that's probably a big YMMV situation
DevilTakoyaki
Member
Yes, I think so. But I'll try that for you after work. Just in case.
Yes but just a little bit. Got it from a PS Plus free game but I don't like it that much so I stop. :\
I said that too. lol
I've played all Souls games, Nioh and Bloodborne.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Is that croch-evade move part of the moveset of all weapons? Some kind of skill? Just another evasion move?
I saw it in some of the trailers/footage shown, but It seems like is not a standard move?, since I never seen any streamer do it...
I saw it in some of the trailers/footage shown, but It seems like is not a standard move?, since I never seen any streamer do it...
That's good to hear, I'm always up for a good challenge.
You can equip different chips that do everything from give you an estus flask type healing item/ability and other distinct stuff so perhaps there is a dodge one. I also haven' seen anyone using it.
More_Badass
Member
Hope it's good. I recall you being pretty excited to try the review build
Karak
Member
Normal videos without impressions/review are tomorrow. Tuesday for the rest
I have a feeling this is going to review well. It would be great if The Surge could be a real breakthrough game for this developer. Sounds like they've made tremendous strides since Lords of the Fallen. The linked 6 hr preview from a few posts up called their progress between the two games "seismic".
Hype.
Hype.
More_Badass
Member
Haven't played it myself, but I did ask Phloxy how the movement and controls felt during his stream the other day and he described the movement and combat as snappy and responsive
It's a real solid game. I just got through my 4th boss. After playing more, I think I have a better sense of why it is difficult. It really feels like the game was designed to punish you for your mistakes, and then capitalize on the impatience of trying to get back to where you were.
I know this is common in the Souls games, but it feels much more pronounced here. The real difference in regards to this is how you approach each enemy and what you want to gain from the encounter.
So far, I have yet to find any weapons or armor just laying around. No magic chest that includes a great set of gear to help carry you through. You have to target and hunt down everything you want from the enemies themselves.
It's brilliant design, because doing this forces you into two options. You can either attack and enemies unarmored limb, which helps you defeat them MUCH easier. However, you are almost never going to get scrap,materials, or gear doing this. On the flip side, you go for an armored limb. Problem is the armored limbs have much higher damage resist, the enemies can withstand getting stunned or knocked down, and sometimes eat one of your attacks while also dishing it back for big damage.
It creates a real fun, difficult, but extremely rewarding balance. The move sets for the weapon types are also very deep. With horizontal and vertical attacks, being able to charge them, and then when you mix them together creating completely different strings of attacks. It only has 5 weapon types, although at first that seemed limiting, it's actually a better design decision because you need to become intimate with each and every attack you attempt to use in combat.
Depending on who,what, or how many enemies I'm fighting I may not even use certain moves at all. What may work great for targeting an unarmored limb on a solo enemy, might be terrible for managing and kiting a group.
Now, after 10 hours, it does have one glaring problem. So far, the games look, tone, and mood, have been pretty drab. I haven't run into any real big set-piece or boss encounter that is really memorable. Part of it is the environment, part of it is the musical score. It's not bad in anyway but it isn't memorable either. Nothing compared to the scope and grandeur of the Souls games.
Still, if you have seen my factual opinion series, I am giving this game a 4/5. I feel it's a big step-up, and if you are wanting a new Souls game or a sci-fi arpg, this game is extremely easy to recommend. Just be aware of the difficulty, it is very punishing. On the flipside, the sense of reward is awesome. I've beaten bosses and stood up in my chair fist pumping and talking shit to my monitor. Hopefully this mock-review/impressions helps you guys out!
Also, Karak, you are a huge influence on me. You have shown that guys who aren't screaming and shouting and like to be in depth with their thoughts and analysis have a place in the world. I appreciate that.
I know this is common in the Souls games, but it feels much more pronounced here. The real difference in regards to this is how you approach each enemy and what you want to gain from the encounter.
So far, I have yet to find any weapons or armor just laying around. No magic chest that includes a great set of gear to help carry you through. You have to target and hunt down everything you want from the enemies themselves.
It's brilliant design, because doing this forces you into two options. You can either attack and enemies unarmored limb, which helps you defeat them MUCH easier. However, you are almost never going to get scrap,materials, or gear doing this. On the flip side, you go for an armored limb. Problem is the armored limbs have much higher damage resist, the enemies can withstand getting stunned or knocked down, and sometimes eat one of your attacks while also dishing it back for big damage.
It creates a real fun, difficult, but extremely rewarding balance. The move sets for the weapon types are also very deep. With horizontal and vertical attacks, being able to charge them, and then when you mix them together creating completely different strings of attacks. It only has 5 weapon types, although at first that seemed limiting, it's actually a better design decision because you need to become intimate with each and every attack you attempt to use in combat.
Depending on who,what, or how many enemies I'm fighting I may not even use certain moves at all. What may work great for targeting an unarmored limb on a solo enemy, might be terrible for managing and kiting a group.
Now, after 10 hours, it does have one glaring problem. So far, the games look, tone, and mood, have been pretty drab. I haven't run into any real big set-piece or boss encounter that is really memorable. Part of it is the environment, part of it is the musical score. It's not bad in anyway but it isn't memorable either. Nothing compared to the scope and grandeur of the Souls games.
Still, if you have seen my factual opinion series, I am giving this game a 4/5. I feel it's a big step-up, and if you are wanting a new Souls game or a sci-fi arpg, this game is extremely easy to recommend. Just be aware of the difficulty, it is very punishing. On the flipside, the sense of reward is awesome. I've beaten bosses and stood up in my chair fist pumping and talking shit to my monitor. Hopefully this mock-review/impressions helps you guys out!
Also, Karak, you are a huge influence on me. You have shown that guys who aren't screaming and shouting and like to be in depth with their thoughts and analysis have a place in the world. I appreciate that.
I would imagine that as always with these games, it depends on the gear.
But LotF was SUPER heavy regardless of gear, and the gameplay I've seen so far of this definitely seems snappier. The dodging in particular.
j0hnnix
Member
That for me is a huge positive!
texhnolyze
Banned
Alright, I think I'm in. When's the embargo gonna be lifted?
names2hard4you
Member
I'm so in. That Pro support looks delicious too. I'll take both modes for a spin, although I usually prioritize image over performance (fucking hate dem jaggies), something that I definitely did for Tomb Raider. However, with Nioh I found out pretty quickly that not playing in Performance mode just felt wrong. Probably will end up doing the same here.
Nice to see that impressions are good so far. One of the main things that still worry me is the variety in environments, and hopefully there are memorable bosses as well. Music is okay from what I've heard in the boss fights so far, although it hasn't really caught my attention
SlasherJPC
Banned
Ok for those playing. Im freaking lost. I fought the first boss. Went down in the dark tunnels. Got to a security door. Now Im just going in circles and no idea how to progress.
PeregrinSe7en
Member
Karak
Member
If you beat the bosses there is always a tram right near by or within the level that opens
SlasherJPC
Banned
Yep just figured this out. I'm dumb lol.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Hearing the game doesn't have a spectacle/Vistas or traditional armor loot is a bit disheartening. So many great moments in souls are from reaching these breathtaking new places. I also have a lot of fun getting different armor and making myself look exactly how I want fashion souls style. As strong as the gameplay might be I can't say that's enough to carry my interest.
But hey, I'm at least willing to hear more impressions and watch the acg review
But hey, I'm at least willing to hear more impressions and watch the acg review
supernormal
Member
All the stuff I'd seen from this game look really janky. This footage looks so much better. It definitely turned things around for me.
Karak
Member
LOL brother its going to be the #1 question about the game when it comes to location and the games world.
Really been hooked on your reviews, dude. All content and honest impressions with zero filler. Looking forward to your review on The Surge.