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"The thing about the iPhone 6 is that it just doesn't have problems"

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Does that ring true for your opinions? Reminded me of Ryan O'Donnell on the 1UP Show with Gears of War 2 :p

Am I missing out on anything if I get an iPhone 6 over a Samsung Galaxy Note 4?

I KNOW I KNOW EVERY PHONE NOW IS SO GOOD THAT YOU WON'T REGRET IT.

For some reason, I was looking for a best smartphone to buy right now, and came across this Verge video.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/26/6850721/the-best-smartphone-you-can-buy-updated

"Getting a phone with the right combination of hardware design, software, apps, camera, ecosystem and battery life is really really crucial. It's also really easy. Just buy an iPhone 6."

"The thing about the iPhone 6 is that it just doesn't have problems."

"The list of Android phones goes forever and honestly, most of them are pretty good. It's really hard to find a bad smartphone these days. But it's worth getting the best ones even if it costs a little more."

"So make sure you get the right one and the easiest way to do that is to buy the iPhone 6."

Now, the Verge writer in the video, David Pierce, gives enough reasons like having the most robust app ecosystem, a great 8MP camera, and great battery life.

I had already seen the Marques Brownlee video, "Smartphone Awards 2014". His best big phone was the Samsung Galaxy Note 4. His best smartphone was the HTC One M8. His second place was just like David Pierce, the Moto X. His third place was the iPhone 6 but he likes the 6 Plus way more.

But man is it usual for Verge writers to sound that evangelical for iPhone? Apple users tend to be the most evangelical among phone users, and Apple is well aware of that with their marketing and shop psychology feeding into that hysteria. Apple users are compared to very religious people in MRI results. But I expect this of the general public with intense brand loyalty, not critics who have to experience a wide range of products. Or do I need to get over myself and admit iPhone really is the best with its closed environment and non-universal methods?

My criteria:
1. I really need the best battery life cause I like to use the internet a lot when I'm out especially shopping to compare prices or tweet or other things.

2. I really would like a phone with a great internet experience. Where copy and pasting text is super easy rather than really frustrating on my current Nokia Lumia 920.

3. Can you drag and drop music files or any video stuff as easily as in any android phone because of the usb? That's kind of a big deal for me.

4. I really would like the best camera especially for night time. Desirable to have a great looking video at 1080p and doesn't look like a phone video with low framerate.

5. I really like using multiple apps at the same time.

6. I really don't want a slippery design. But is that a small niggle, like could I just buy a skin that gives it a stickier grip?


Honestly, the only draw for me to get an iPhone is the games because as a gamer, I've heard of a lot of cool games and know they'll never leave the iOS space (Monument Valley, The Sailor's Dream, 80 Days, Hitman GO, Crossy Road). Now if you're observant enough, you'll know most of these games aside from The Sailor's Dream are on Android. Is gaming on an Android device equivalent to an iPhone in terms of performance and other such factors? These aren't action games, so I'm guessing yes.
 

kmfdmpig

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1. I really need the best battery life cause I like to use the internet a lot when I'm out especially shopping to compare prices or tweet or other things.

Note 4 has much longer battery life than iPhone 6, and a fair amount longer than 6+
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4_id8577/benchmarks

2. I really would like a phone with a great internet experience. Where copy and pasting text is super easy rather than really frustrating on my current Nokia Lumia 920.

I think you'd be happy with either choice for this.

3. Can you drag and drop music files or any video stuff as easily as in any android phone because of the usb? That's kind of a big deal for me.

iTunes is still how you'd add music or video on iPhone, as far as I know.

4. I really would like the best camera especially for night time. Desirable to have a great looking video at 1080p and doesn't look like a phone video with low framerate.

In general it's a toss up with camera, but at night iPhone 6 will be better.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...3-LG-G3-Galaxy-S5-Galaxy-Note-3_id3822/page/4

5. I really like using multiple apps at the same time.

Note 4 would be much better for this.

6. I really don't want a slippery design. But is that a small niggle, like could I just buy a skin that gives it a stickier grip?

Yes. Both will have cheap/thin cases that you can buy online for a few bucks.
 
1. I really need the best battery life cause I like to use the internet a lot when I'm out especially shopping to compare prices or tweet or other things.

Note 4 has much longer battery life than iPhone 6, and a fair amount longer than 6+
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4_id8577/benchmarks

2. I really would like a phone with a great internet experience. Where copy and pasting text is super easy rather than really frustrating on my current Nokia Lumia 920.

I think you'd be happy with either choice for this.

3. Can you drag and drop music files or any video stuff as easily as in any android phone because of the usb? That's kind of a big deal for me.

iTunes is still how you'd add music or video on iPhone, as far as I know.

4. I really would like the best camera especially for night time. Desirable to have a great looking video at 1080p and doesn't look like a phone video with low framerate.

In general it's a toss up with camera, but at night iPhone 6 will be better.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...3-LG-G3-Galaxy-S5-Galaxy-Note-3_id3822/page/4

5. I really like using multiple apps at the same time.

Note 4 would be much better for this.

6. I really don't want a slippery design. But is that a small niggle, like could I just buy a skin that gives it a stickier grip?

Yes. Both will have cheap/thin cases that you can buy online for a few bucks.

Thank you. Might inch myself towards a Note 4.
 

zychi

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Love my iPhone 6+, but you need to realize that all your quotes are from the Verge, a well known Apple fanboy site.

Play with Android devices at the store play with the iPhone 6 or 6+ at the store. Then decide
 

neojubei

Will drop pants for Sony.
All i can way is my friend complains to me about this Android phone more than i do about my iPhone.
 

Meffer

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Having a 6 since last month and I haven't had any issues. Nothing glitchy or anything like that. It's pretty damn awesome.
 

Aldebaran

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The iPhone 6 is a solid phone but iOS 8 has a lot of bugs, so i wouldn't really say that it has no problems. Since iOS 7 text highlighting has been a horrible, there was a reddit discussion about this just a few days ago: link. Looks like the Note 4 would be the best choice for you, but you should really check out the Moto X 2014, all features added by Motorola are very useful.
 

Snaku

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I've owned an iPhone 5, then a Nexus 4, then a Lumia, and now an iPhone 6 Plus. I had various minor annoying problems with the first three, but the 6 Plus has been a perfect experience for me so far. I have no hesitation in recommending it.
 

Sgt. Pinback

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I went from the Note 3 to the iPhone 6 Plus.

There is no comparison. The Note 3 was horrible. Touchwiz is an abomination, and the Play store is a hot mess.

The iPhone works. It is awesome.
 

Ty4on

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My criteria:
4. I really would like the best camera especially for night time. Desirable to have a great looking video at 1080p and doesn't look like a phone video with low framerate.
iPhone 6 (plus, dat OIS).
3. Can you drag and drop music files or any video stuff as easily as in any android phone because of the usb? That's kind of a big deal for me.
Not iPhone 6.

Welcome to the world of smartphones. If you're familiar with Raw you can now shoot Raw with the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6. That way you can process night shots much better if you have the software.
 

Xrenity

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It just doesn't have problems*

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As long as you only try to do things that it will allow you to do
This exactly.

It's a pro for me, I just want my phone to run without problems. And I do think iOS is a smoother experience overall.
 

ZeroX03

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Honestly my 6 Plus has had a lot more problems than my 5S ever did. 5S was basically perfect.

However, it's still a still a shitload better than my Galaxy S3, Note 3 and Xperia Z ever were. They were all pretty awful and buggy. For Android products I'm sticking with Xiaomi and NVIDIA.
 
Just want to confirm that you're not trolling right now. Perfect as in it pretty much doesn't any improvements to it's aesthetic design or internals?
I don't get it. Are you saying the internals and design didn't change? The internals improved. Design improvement is subjective but it was always great and it's not not-great.

Pretty perfect as in it performs well, feels good, has a great app store, one of the best cameras, etc...I pretty much agree with the verge video and I don't even like that site AT ALL. I hate it in fact. But for other reasons. It's nothing revolutionary but why does it have to be? It does it all and it does it all at the top.
 

GWX

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iTunes is pretty awesome for music syncing, OP. Don't be afraid of it, it's very easy to maintain an organized iTunes library with correct tagging and easy syncing (Wi-Fi or tethered). iTunes 12 is specially cool, I love the new design. And if you really don't care for it, there are many third-party media managers and streaming services that the job done just as fine. I have an iPhone 5s, and apart from minor iOS 8 bugs, it's awesome. iPhone 6 must be better in every regard, so go for it.
 

Future

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My iPhone crashes about once a week randomly so it's not like the iPhone is perfection. You will be happy with either but if you want easy drag and drop files onto the phone get the note. I used dropbox whenever I need to do anything like that
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
If you're still debating and can wait, 6S should be out in the fall, and rumors are it'll have an even faster processor, double the RAM and a dual-lens, dslr-quality camera.

Happy to be on the S cycle! Honestly though I love my 5S, and am in no hurry to upgrade either way.

And TouchID works infallibly for me. The only time it doesn't is if my thumb is wet.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
My iPhone crashes about once a week randomly so it's not like the iPhone is perfection. You will be happy with either but if you want easy drag and drop files onto the phone get the note. I used dropbox whenever I need to do anything like that
Yeah that's the thing... There are lots of cloud storage apps on iOS, and they all connect to each program.

So the idea of drag and drop files seems a bit odd to me in 2015. So you connect it with a wire? Who needs it

I get with mp3s not wanting to use iTunes though.
 

greepoman

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There's been some discussion about music on iOS but I was wondering about movies...is there support for multiple formats and an easy way to get them on the phone or is it just gonna be iTunes and having to convert to what apple wants?
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
There's been some discussion about music on iOS but I was wondering about movies...is there support for multiple formats and an easy way to get them on the phone or is it just gonna be iTunes and having to convert to what apple wants?
App Store apps can play all formats.

Personally I like using air video HD. You can stream them from the PC, or download them to the device.

Or if you just want video playback there are apps like infuse. Actually on a jailbroken iPhone you can torrent... And open in other apps to play.
 

ZeroX03

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Yeah that's the thing... There are lots of cloud storage apps on iOS, and they all connect to each program.

So the idea of drag and drop files seems a bit odd to me in 2015. So you connect it with a wire? Who needs it

I get with mp3s not wanting to use iTunes though.

I still used wired with all file transfers. It's faster and 4G data caps make storing things in cloud storage unfeasible for the long term. Especially since I'm often transferring video to my iPhone.
 

MercuryLS

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iPhones are really simple and rock solid products, that's what reviewers mean by that. There's a high level of polish with iOS devices, being vertically integrated has its advantages. With Lollipop I think Android is close and better in many ways due to the freedom/customizability afforded.
 
The phone hardware itself? The ONLY hardware problem I have with my 128gb 6+ is the 1gb of ram. It's garbage. Barely able to keep a few apps open w/o them autoclosing.

On the software side iOS 8 is a buggy piece of shit. And I say that as someone with a macbook, iPad, apple tv. I'm not a hater but I call it like I see it.

Safari crashes, safari showing a previous cached page briefly when resuming safari, the upscaling briefly breaking when rotating the device between portrait/landscape, messages crashing, app store crashing, iTunes app crashing, returning to the home screen to just have it completely blank for 10-15 seconds....slowdown in terms of opening/minimizing apps on occasion. And the buggy keyboard along with a few bugs in iTunes and wifi issues (resolved since iOS8 launch) this has been the biggest iOS version I've used and I've been on iOS since 2.0
 
I got the iPhone 6 plus last week and it's an amazing phone. I didn't have any iOS issues.

If you want a phone you can use with one hand, than the iPhone 6 plus is not for you.

However if you accept it's size, than you will have one of the best currently available phone.
 
Switched over to the iPhone 6 from the Galaxy S III when my contract expired, and I'm absolutely loving it.

I do however regret getting just the 16 GB version. iOS 8 chews through a great bit of that space right off the bat.
 

Ashhong

Member
I don't know if my settings are wrong or something, but the camera on my S5 and my dad's Note 4 are such shit. It takes forever to actually snap the picture and then you have to hold it perfectly still for another second or so or else the picture comes out blurry. What the fuck? I have an iPhone 6 as my personal phone and the pictures are instant and great
 

Air

Banned
I love it. It's crashed on me a couple times, but it's nothing serious. It has plenty of problems, but they're all little annoyances really.
 
iPhones are really simple and rock solid products, that's what reviewers mean by that. There's a high level of polish with iOS devices, being vertically integrated has its advantages. With Lollipop I think Android is close and better in many ways due to the freedom/customizability afforded.

my iphone 5whatever constantly crashes programs.
 

reKon

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I don't get it. Are you saying the internals and design didn't change? The internals improved. Design improvement is subjective but it was always great and it's not not-great.

Pretty perfect as in it performs well, feels good, has a great app store, one of the best cameras, etc...I pretty much agree with the verge video and I don't even like that site AT ALL. I hate it in fact. But for other reasons. It's nothing revolutionary but why does it have to be? It does it all and it does it all at the top.

Sorry, I think I made an error in my post so it may have been hard to interpret.

I'm basically saying that there has to be at least something that you would change on the iPhone 6 that would make it truly perfect for you. Yes, I know it's not revolutionary, but I really don't think that Apple should stay complacent in terms of overall design. Other companies have taken steps increase the screen size while keeping similar dimensions (see Xperia Z1 Compact > Xperia Z3 Compact). Even with my phone, while it was the perfect phone for me out of everything released, I'm at least admitting that there are few things that could be added to make it truly perfect.


Regarding the iPhone 6, personally I think that the iPhone would be the 'perfect' overall phone if they did the following: increased the battery size (most flagships offer better battery life and Apple has not made significant improvements from the 5s), increase the screen size while maintaining the same dimensions, redesigned the look of iOS 8 (I don't believe the majority of users think that the whole translucent /bright colors look looks amazing (Apple can do better here), allow default applications.

Notice I didn't even mention anything about expandable storage or some other bullshit that other power users complain about. These are all things that Apple can easily implement...
 

medrew

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People still think the verge is an apple fanboy site? lol.

With the exception of vlad it pretty much is, their "writers" arent balanced in what they write on because they predominately use apple products and dont care to develop any knowledge outside of it.
Engadget actually now surpasses then in coverage of non-apple products/news. Although elon musk is the other exception. The verge is tabloid rags tech coverage.
 
Honestly, the only draw for me to get an iPhone is the games because as a gamer, I've heard of a lot of cool games and know they'll never leave the iOS space (Monument Valley, The Sailor's Dream, 80 Days, Hitman GO, Crossy Road). Now if you're observant enough, you'll know most of these games aside from The Sailor's Dream are on Android. Is gaming on an Android device equivalent to an iPhone in terms of performance and other such factors? These aren't action games, so I'm guessing yes.

If you're interested in mobile games, than iPhone is your best option.
 
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