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"The thing about the iPhone 6 is that it just doesn't have problems"

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6+ has alot of little bugs, but over all the battery life makes up for the constant safari crashes, unresponsive home button, multitasking crashes
 

Kibbles

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If you plan to multi task do not get the iPhone 6+, I'm constantly losing data switching between apps, it has to refresh stuff completely a lot, it's just terrible at multitasking. Love it otherwise, but man...

Oh and Chrome crashes a lot, But I probably just need to use a better browser (edit: welp people above say Safari crashes a lot too. I am doomed. Battery life is awesome yup)
 

Jonnax

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http://www.gsmarena.com/ Is a great site for detailed reviews and they've standardised their web browsing test as well.

1)
According to them they got 10hours44 from the Note 4 browsing the west

9 Hours 5 minutes with the 6+

10 Hours 29 with the 6

They're all pretty close so that really shouldn't be a factor.


2) I've found copy and pasting to do the job well on IOS and Android. Both are decent experiences.

3) You can't drag and drop on iOS. You gotta use iTunes which has format limitations. You can download media player apps like vlc to play stuff like mkvs but you gotta upload it through the app and only the app can see it or transcode the video.

4) No idea.

5) Note 4 Multitasking
Not sure about the new mutitasking stuff on 6+

6) Cases on phones seem to be the thing to get these days to protect it. Don't want that glass cracking. Thermoplastic polyurethane (TPU) cases are quite popular and they're very grippy.
 

Corgi

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6+ has alot of little bugs, but over all the battery life makes up for the constant safari crashes, unresponsive home button, multitasking crashes

glad im no tthe only one with this... this stuff is pretty embarassing for a phone that often scores extremely high in reviews.

I easily see the hard startup apple logo at least once a week on my iphone 6+...
 

McLovin

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I´m thinking about getting a 6 as well. I´ve been an android guy since the beggining but my last android broke me. I have a galaxy s4 and the screen broke 4 times on me, 2 of those times the lcd went out too. My last fix didnt even last a week and the first time it broke was in my pocket with nothing in there. Even if it hadnt broke so many times I think I would be done with them anyway. Bloatware from different carriers and always waiting for the new version of android is too damn annoying.
 

golem

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I´m thinking about getting a 6 as well. I´ve been an android guy since the beggining but my last android broke me. I have a galaxy s4 and the screen broke 4 times on me, 2 of those times the lcd went out too. My last fix didnt even last a week and the first time it broke was in my pocket with nothing in there. Even if it hadnt broke so many times I think I would be done with them anyway. Bloatware from different carriers and always waiting for the new version of android is too damn annoying.

My 6+ smokes my S4 from orbit, but then again I prefer ios so ymmv
 

rezuth

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With the exception of vlad it pretty much is, their "writers" arent balanced in what they write on because they predominately use apple products and dont care to develop any knowledge outside of it.
Engadget actually now surpasses then in coverage of non-apple products/news. Although elon musk is the other exception. The verge is tabloid rags tech coverage.

Unless you are talking about computers then I have no idea what you mean. They have been shitting on the iPhone intheir podcast the past three years. I'm not sure even one of their main writers that have been using the iPhone as their main phone the past years.
 

highrider

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When you look at the new stuff, note 4, 6+/6, nexus 6, s5, g3, z3, one+, m8.. They are all excellent really. Just a question of what features are most useful and fun for you. I have a note because I love to draw anywhere, but if that didn't matter I'd probably have a 6+ or nexus 6.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
wait wut

like oculus rift on a phone?

Oh boy, you're in for a surprise. Yes, but better than the current Oculus Development kits in some ways because Note 4 is 1440p, higher res.

Gear VR is a $200 headset from Samsung, co-developed with Oculus, that the Note 4 plugs into directly, and lets you do this stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeoOCiGmtAc

You can't plug it into a PC as an Oculus Rift however, so all apps run on the Note 4 hardware. Right now its only available in the US (and keeps selling out) but its supposed to roll out elsewhere in the next few months. I want one so bad but can't afford it, but the sheer fact the Note 4 can do this puts it into an entirely different league to the iPhone in my opinion.
 

linkboy

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If Apple would let me set apps as default, I'd still be using an iPhone. I hated jail breaking my phone just to change the default web browser or any other apps.
 

Ambient80

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With the exception of vlad it pretty much is, their "writers" arent balanced in what they write on because they predominately use apple products and dont care to develop any knowledge outside of it.
Engadget actually now surpasses then in coverage of non-apple products/news. Although elon musk is the other exception. The verge is tabloid rags tech coverage.

That's just simply not true. Tom Warren uses WP8, Vlad uses Android, Ziegler switches all the time but right now is using a new Moto X iirc, Nilay uses iPhone and whatever is the new Android hotness as he has two different carriers. Yeah they almost all use MacBooks but that's mostly because they're really freaking good laptops.
 

Wreav

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The 6 has been the closet any phone has gotten to checking all my boxes. The best Android I've used is leagues behind.
 

rezuth

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Oh boy, you're in for a surprise. Yes, but better than the current Oculus Development kits in some ways because Note 4 is 1440p, higher res.

Gear VR is a $200 headset from Samsung, co-developed with Oculus, that the Note 4 plugs into directly, and lets you do this stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeoOCiGmtAc

You can't plug it into a PC as an Oculus Rift however, so all apps run on the Note 4 hardware. Right now its only available in the US (and keeps selling out) but its supposed to roll out elsewhere in the next few months. I want one so bad but can't afford it, but the sheer fact the Note 4 can do this puts it into an entirely different league to the iPhone in my opinion.

I wouldn't suggest paying 200 bucks for something that will never catch on.
 
I can't justify spending $600+ on a phone.

This. My Moto G is perfectly fine and not insanely expensive. Sure, it doesn't have much RAM so its hard to multitask at times and the camera is pretty iffy in low light, but outside of that its perfectly fine for normal phone use (great screen, fast OS, browsing internet and watching videos, playing games that aren't infinity blade, texting, etc.)
 
http://www.gsmarena.com/ Is a great site for detailed reviews and they've standardised their web browsing test as well.

1)
According to them they got 10hours44 from the Note 4 browsing the west

9 Hours 5 minutes with the 6+

10 Hours 29 with the 6

They're all pretty close so that really shouldn't be a factor.


2) I've found copy and pasting to do the job well on IOS and Android. Both are decent experiences.

3) You can't drag and drop on iOS. You gotta use iTunes which has format limitations. You can download media player apps like vlc to play stuff like mkvs but you gotta upload it through the app and only the app can see it or transcode the video.

4) No idea.

5) Note 4 Multitasking
Not sure about the new mutitasking stuff on 6+

6) Cases on phones seem to be the thing to get these days to protect it. Don't want that glass cracking. Thermoplastic polyurethane (TPU) cases are quite popular and they're very grippy.

Have you read GSMArenas comparison of the note 4 and 6 plus? It's laughable and should definitely color your view of the site. Like seriously, anybody who hasn't should read it. It's a joke. They were altering photos of the HTC One X in their comparisons to look purposefully worse than the GS3. They've always been shady.

If you think the Note 4 will give you better battery life than a 6 Plus, you're delusional. Period. Not to mention the standby time is waaaay better on the 6 Plus. Once you download more apps, IOS gives you much better control of background app refresh as well. With an aftermarket charger, it too can charge pretty damn fast. They're both good phones but this point needed addressing.
 

cDNA

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Honestly, the only draw for me to get an iPhone is the games because as a gamer, I've heard of a lot of cool games and know they'll never leave the iOS space (Monument Valley, The Sailor's Dream, 80 Days, Hitman GO, Crossy Road). Now if you're observant enough, you'll know most of these games aside from The Sailor's Dream are on Android. Is gaming on an Android device equivalent to an iPhone in terms of performance and other such factors? These aren't action games, so I'm guessing yes.

Uhm all of these games are on Android now(except the Sailors's Dream) they usually come later in Android than in the iPhone.
 

Protome

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I like my iPhone 6, but the screen is a pretty sizable downgrade when switching from a cheaper android phone (Nexus 5 in my case.) The resolution seems just a little blurry on a screen that size now.

That said, I have been enjoying everything else about my switch. Although I do miss having a fully featured version of Pushbullet (and how much easier sharing things is on Android in general.)

For reference, my last iPhone was a 3G. After that shitshow I switched to Nexus Phones and thanks to the cheapness of them bought a new one yearly until this year (I also dabbled with Windows Phone briefly twice during this time, decent OS that still has so few well made apps that it's only worth buying the cheap ones.) The increase in price and the screen size being bigger than I wanted made me tip back over to iOS.

That's just simply not true. Tom Warren uses WP8, Vlad uses Android, Ziegler switches all the time but right now is using a new Moto X iirc, Nilay uses iPhone and whatever is the new Android hotness as he has two different carriers. Yeah they almost all use MacBooks but that's mostly because they're really freaking good laptops.

Shhhh, don't use facts. That's cheating. Everyone who writes for a tech site who says the iPhone is good uses one all the time and has never used an Android phone for a reasonable amount of time, you big silly.

For whatever reason the Verge crew do seem a bit more skewed towards Apple in their writing than their podcast. They use clickbait headlines which fuels this but overall they seem pretty balanced. They even gave the new Blackberrys fair chances, if you exclude they only reviewed the Passport as a lost bet.
 

Heshinsi

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Pretty spot on in my opinion. After having only iPhones till I swapped to a Note 3 (needed the bigger screen) early last year, and then going back to an iPhone 6+; it feels so damn good to go back to an iPhone. Battery life is unbelievable.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I wouldn't suggest paying 200 bucks for something that will never catch on.

Yeah. People hate Oculus developed VR. I can't see this thing that keeps selling out and creating evangelists every single day catching on.
 

MiszMasz

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Posting this from my 4S with iOS8.

Unless I'm working i use it more than my laptop and tablet combined. VLC with Dropbox/whatever is good for streaming over my local net and for formats iTunes doesn't like. My only problems are more than a couple of apps open at a time will cause things to auto-refresh and .gif threads sometimes crash Safari.
I'm not looking to upgrade, but if someone offered me a 6 or 6+ I wouldn't say no.
 

Red

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The iPhone 6 is great, but don't be swayed by The Verge. They have a habit of confusing preference for fact and tend toward a pro-Apple narrative so opaquely it's as if they're under Cook's employ.
 
Just another feel-good piece written by the technologically illiterate for the technologically illiterate.

1. No removable battery. Apple does not use magic. Its batteries are governed by the same physical laws as the rest of the universe, though I've seen Apple users swear differently. After a year a battery will have noticeably degraded and it continues getting worse from there. Android users can simply pop in a fresh battery. Apple users cannot. In addition, Android users can keep a spare battery for emergencies. Apple users cannot.

2. Camera. Apple users love to tout that Apple uses some magic on their camera that makes it somehow better than the superior camera stats on Android flagships. Then PhoneArena took over 3,000 people and had them compare photos between the two phones. Surprise, the Nexus 6 took home 77% of the votes.

3. Expandable storage. If you want to move to 64 GB in an Apple, prepare to pay hundreds of dollars. Android? Throw a twenty on the Amazon table and you get 64 GB in ADDITION to what you've already got, or throw down $100 and get a whopping 128 GB expansion. Android users can also keep multiple microSD cards, storing them as they fill them up with pictures and videos. My wife has 4 64 GB cards filled with videos and is working on her 5th. If she had an Apple, I'd be paying an extra $125+ a year in cloud storage, plus the data costs for transferring on the fly.

4. Screen. There's no point arguing this. Android has superior resolution and superior pixel density. While the iPhone 6 comes in at a pathetic 326 ppi, Android flagships are sporting pixel densities just under or just over the 500 mark. Android screens aren't just 10%, 15%, or 20% higher resolution. They're beating the iPhone 6 by FIFTY PERCENT.

5. RAM. It is hilarious to hear some technologically illiterate hipster blogger talking about "no problems that I can see with the iPhone 6" when developers threw a shit-storm when the iPhone 6 was announced to have a piddly 1 GB of RAM. Many developers outright said they were done with Apple, because developing apps for that limited of an environment is a waste of effort and, even with that effort, would never produce a desirable user experience. Meanwhile, Android flagships are rolling out with 3 GB of RAM and I wouldn't be surprised to see a 4 GB model hitting the market soon.

6. Cost. This is a hard one. Some people define their self worth by the brands they paste themselves with. For the people who carry Gucci purses, you're not going to have much luck convincing them that paying hundreds of dollars more for a technologically inferior product is wasteful. They don't base value on performance. They base value on the cost and the brand. For everyone else, Apple is a waste of fucking money.

I can continue, but I figure this is a good breaking point.
 

Smokey

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I currently have a M8. I think I'm going to get my second Apple product - 6s this fall. I used to be heavily against Apple, but I picked up a Macbook Pro for my wife a few months ago. Really like their products.
 

Mully

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It's funny you mention O'Donnel's Gears of War 2 Review since it was his opinion which sold my broke high school ass to buy the game. It was the most enjoyable singleplayer experience I had last generation.
 
1. No removable battery. Apple does not use magic. Its batteries are governed by the same physical laws as the rest of the universe, though I've seen Apple users swear differently. After a year a battery will have noticeably degraded and it continues getting worse from there. Android users can simply pop in a fresh battery. Apple users cannot. In addition, Android users can keep a spare battery for emergencies. Apple users cannot.

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3. Expandable storage. If you want to move to 64 GB in an Apple, prepare to pay hundreds of dollars. Android? Throw a twenty on the Amazon table and you get 64 GB in ADDITION to what you've already got, or throw down $100 and get a whopping 128 GB expansion. Android users can also keep multiple microSD cards, storing them as they fill them up with pictures and videos. My wife has 4 64 GB cards filled with videos and is working on her 5th. If she had an Apple, I'd be paying an extra $125+ a year in cloud storage, plus the data costs for transferring on the fly.

To be fair, the best Android phones do not usually have removable batteries or SD slots.
 

rezuth

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Yeah. People hate Oculus developed VR. I can't see this thing that keeps selling out and creating evangelists every single day catching on.

Google Glass have been selling as a popular Dev Kit too but we're not seeing them anywhere. Buying an VR accessory for a phone seems like a huge gamble. The install base wont be big enough to support it and its high price point will keep it from selling well. In a year or two it will be long forgotten.
 

Protome

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I can continue, but I figure this is a good breaking point.


While I mostly agree with you, it seems like a strange point for you to use the Nexus 6 as an example of a better camera, when it then doesn't have expandable storage or a replaceable battery like you list. You need to make concessions no matter what phone you are getting and whether it is on Android or iOS. Personally, the Nexus range was my favourite because cheap price, quickest OS updates, generally some fast snappy performance because of the lack of bloatware etc etc. The lack of battery and extra storage wasn't an issue there (and isn't on my iPhone now.)
I'm glad the Nexus 6 finally put a decent camera on them too, it's just a shame it's so big.
 
As someone who jumps back and forth between Android and iOS for work, I'd say I prefer current Android (Lollipop, 5.0.2) to current iOS (8.1.2). Android has fixed many of their early bugs and their presentation is top-notch with Lollipop. There are also a number of niggling issues that bother me, like iOS lack of app info sharing compared to Android, the way iOS handles notifications (lack of grouping) and widgets, and the weird WiFi bug on my iPad mini since iOS 8 launched.

The iPhone hardware is still an amazing product. You'll only get close to that build quality if you rock an HTC One, but the G3 and Note 4 are still solid phones.
 
1. No removable battery. Apple does not use magic. Its batteries are governed by the same physical laws as the rest of the universe, though I've seen Apple users swear differently. After a year a battery will have noticeably degraded and it continues getting worse from there.

May I present my two year old iPhone 5 which I just pulled out of the drawer.

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90% capacity after two years and still ticking.
 
To be fair, the best Android phones do not usually have removable batteries or SD slots.

I'm sure they do exist, but none of the models I see out in the wild. At my office it's all either:

Note 4
S5
iPhone 6

After the Note 3, S4, iPhone 5 generation, half the Apple users jumped ship. I don't know if any of the Apple users will remain loyal after this generation. The price premium vs technological limitations were just too stark.
 
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