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The UK votes to leave the European Union |OUT2| Mayday, Mayday, I've lost an ARM

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Jackpot

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Jesus Christ

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754

An aristocrat who wrote an online post offering £5,000 to anyone who ran over businesswoman Gina Miller has been found guilty of two charges of making malicious communications.

Rhodri Colwyn Philipps, 50 - the 4th Viscount St Davids - wrote the message four days after Ms Miller won a Brexit legal challenge against the government.

He was found guilty of two counts of making malicious communications and acquitted of a third at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

One of the counts related to a post regarding Ms Miller, published on Facebook on 7 November 2016, which said: "£5,000 for the first person to 'accidentally' run over this bloody troublesome first generation immigrant."

Philipps, of Knightsbridge, London, described her as a "boat jumper" and added: "If this is what we should expect from immigrants, send them back to their stinking jungles."

But Philipps denied the allegation that his posts were "racially aggravated" saying that describing Ms Miller as a "boat jumper" and that she should go back to the "steaming jungle" were "statements of fact not a racist comment at all".
 

Dougald

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I like how that is the go to line

Strangely none of these close friends who apparently don't mind putting up with these peoples racist bullshit ever come out as character references. Almost like they're either made up or "that bloke at work who says hi to me out of politeness sometimes"
 

-Plasma Reus-

Service guarantees member status
I've been working in Ireland for the past 6 months. As an EU citizen, I now have a job that pays 2x as much at one of The Big 3 Software companies. All of that income tax, and the UK is getting none of it. The brain drain has already started.
 

Dougald

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I've been working in Ireland for the past 6 months. As an EU citizen, I now have a job that pays 2x as much at one of The Big 3 Software companies. All of that income tax, and the UK is getting none of it. The brain drain has already started.

I am in a similar situation. I currently work in cloud services and a lot of our customers have expressed concerns about storing their data in the UK post-Brexit, as the Tories haven't seem to got a clue when it comes to technology.

I suspect a lot of businesses may have to set up new hardware in datacentres on the continent... in which case, why hire new staff to run it in the UK?
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-banks-idUKKBN19W1VS

Top executives at five of the largest banks in the capital told Reuters a staggered deal on leaving the European Union is only likely to be agreed late on in talks with Brussels, meaning they have already begun relocating staff.

"The timeframe for when we wanted a transitional deal has already passed," an executive at one global bank said, adding it had taken a decision to move hundreds of roles to continental Europe regardless of what the government does.

But James Bardrick, the UK head of U.S. bank Citi (C.N), said the government has been too slow to get any early deals with Europe and banks will have to be ready by September 2018.

"There's been a lot of talk and not a lot of action for a long time. I am anxious it is all a bit late," Bardrick said.

Executives say the timetable to relocate staff and operations is tighter than it looks because it could take longer than eighteen months to set up new buildings, get licenses, hire or relocate staff and build up the capital of EU divisions.

The chairman of one of Britain's largest banks told Reuters he recently resisted pressure from staff to enact his company's contingency plan, but he will probably have to give the go-ahead by the end of the summer.

"Every single day I have people coming into my office asking me to press the button on contingency plans," he said.

Time is running out.
 

Uzzy

Member
One gets the impression that there's several senior Conservatives who aren't all that bothered about time ticking away, or a lack of clarity. Boris yesterday, obviously, but Damien Green today hardly treat Brexit with the seriousness it deserves.
 

tuxfool

Banned
Stupid thing is she was born in a British colony whilst it was under British control.

I mean, that's far from the most stupid thing there but even the 'facts' are bad.

The commonwealth and the people in it are only a PR tool to make brexiters feel better about their place in the world. The default stance as demonstrated by this person is of xenophobia and racism towards these countries.
 

Zaph

Member
One gets the impression that there's several senior Conservatives who aren't all that bothered about time ticking away, or a lack of clarity. Boris yesterday, obviously, but Damien Green today hardly treat Brexit with the seriousness it deserves.

The true believer Tory crazies want it this way. Run out the clock as much as possible leaving no time for a real negotiation (and therefore no concessions made), so they get their hard Brexit and its too late to do anything about it once everyone else realises how bad it'll be for them.

These people are made and their wealth is well insulated - ideology is all that matters to them.
 
The commonwealth and the people in it are only a PR tool to make brexiters feel better about their place in the world. The default stance as demonstrated by this person is of xenophobia and racism towards these countries.

Yup. How many Daily Mail commentators would say 'trade with the Commonwealth!!' (read: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, maybe India because really they like cricket and as long as they don't come here, grudgingly have to admit they're a big deal) and in the same breath denounce people like Miller as immigrant troublemakers?
 

Burai

shitonmychest57
Yup. How many Daily Mail commentators would say 'trade with the Commonwealth!!' (read: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, maybe India because really they like cricket and as long as they don't come here, grudgingly have to admit they're a big deal) and in the same breath denounce people like Miller as immigrant troublemakers?

The only reason they have such a hard-on for the Commonwealth is because they feel those countries "belong" to us and are therefore more willing and compliant than our equals in the EU. They think they'll put their own interests aside and come to heel for the glory of Her Majesty's Empire.
 

Uzzy

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Just to add to my earlier comment, this is from today's Telegraph.

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Here's an article from the Guardian about the intervention.

In an extraordinary intervention that will raise the pressure on the prime minister to reassess her approach to Brexit, the comptroller and auditor general of the National Audit Office said the government had failed to take a unified approach to talks with the EU. He also revealed that a request to see a ministerial plan for the changes needed to leave the EU had been met with only “vague” assurances.

He said he has asked to see, but not been shown, a ministerial plan to guide government departments through structural and legal changes for the UK to leave the EU. He had only received “vague” assurances that the government would support struggling departments trying to enact complex and expensive changes made necessary by Brexit, he said.

Morse’s alarming verdict comes as the National Audit Office said there was “very little flexibility” in plans for a new customs system, which is due to be ready two months before Britain is supposed to leave the EU.
 
The only reason they have such a hard-on for the Commonwealth is because they feel those countries "belong" to us and are therefore more willing and compliant than our equals in the EU. They think they'll put their own interests aside and come to heel for the glory of Her Majesty's Empire.

Yeah I think there's truth to this.

Telegraph putting Amyas Morse's comments on the front page is good, the headline they used is even better. Strong & stable! Strong & stable!

Express leads with BRITAIN'S WIDE OPEN TO ILLEGAL MIGRANTS'. Ffs.


Yeah these companies are not going to wait and cross their fingers. They've got to make sure that they are up & running elsewhere before the shit hits the fan. Exodus begins between 4Q this year and mid-2018 I think. This is why DD needs to start speaking to the City immediately. Right now. Fuck your games and party, if the City leaves who is going to fill your tax hole?
 

Uzzy

Member
The Great Repeal Bill is finally here. It explicitly says that the Charter of Fundamental Rights will no longer apply, so there's the first big fight right there.
 

Number45

Member
Haven't they been saying this morning that it will ensure that everything remains EXACTLY the same as of day one? Or is that just for law?
 
Scots and Welsh not happy. Labour not happy.
Basically it's 'fuck you and the horse you rode in on'.
And your crocodile tears don't fool anyone, Theresa.
 
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/be2b22ce-67fc-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614

Britain has for the first time explicitly acknowledged it has financial obligations to the EU after Brexit, a move that is likely to avert a full-scale clash over the exit bill in talks next week.

In a written statement to parliament touching on a “financial settlement”, the government recognised on Thursday “that the UK has obligations to the EU . . . that will survive the UK’s withdrawal — and that these need to be resolved”.
 
Labour's Facebook post about Corbyn meeting Barnier is flooded with angry responses from people. At this point I've got to believe that things like this and the BBC comments section are being brigaded, right?
 

Kabouter

Member

Good, slightly lower chance then of the nightmare scenario of no deal. Glad they're starting to see reason on this.

Labour's Facebook post about Corbyn meeting Barnier is flooded with angry responses from people. At this point I've got to believe that things like this and the BBC comments section are being brigaded, right?

People who are angry will often comment on things, people who are fine with things generally not bothered enough to comment.
 

Maledict

Member
Another complete capitulation. They just love setting themselves up to fail so badly, don't they.

Boris Johnson will likely have to be kept away from the cameras for another week, I guess. So at least there's that benefit.

Boris Johnson should be fired - he's breaking collective cabinet responsibility. But Theresa May is so weak she can't. Government cannot function like this.

All he's doing is prepping himself for the leadership contest by saying nonsense he knows isn't true in order to appeal to the hard right brexiteers. He wants to make David Davis appear weak, ineffectual and not anti Europe enough and will box him in with comments like this.

Boris Johnson is, unbelievably, even more loathsome than Jacob Rees Mogg, something I never thought I'd say about anyone. But at least Mogg is consistent in his appalling beliefs, whereas Johnson is one of the most power hungry, amoral people in Britain. He *knows* this is fucking over Britain like nothing else, he was the Mayor of London ffs - but it doesn't care as it's all about him becoming PM.
 

8bit

Knows the Score
Part 3 (2) of Schedule Two seems to pull a fast one on the devolved assemblies. All those promises about their new powers suddenly disintegrate. It says that they can't make changes which would be "inconsistent" with those made by Westminster. In other words: you can do what you like as long as it's what we like. If the UK reduces the standards on the treatment of battery hens, for instance, the Scottish government cannot decide to stick to the previous EU level.

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/201...-repeal-bill-creates-unprecedented-new-powers


huh.
 

theaface

Member
easyJet picks Austria for EU air operator certificate after Brexit

British budget airline easyJet has chosen to apply for an air operator certificate in Austria, and will establish a new airline, easyJet Europe, to protect its flying rights once Britain leaves the European Union.

The new airline will be based in Vienna. The budget airline must have an air operator's certificate (AOC) in a European Union member to allow it to continue flying between EU member states after Brexit.

"The accreditation process is now well advanced and easyJet hopes to receive the AOC and licence in the near future," easyJet said in a statement.

More businesses piling into the 'happening bunker'. Are things looking pretty good yet?
 

Theonik

Member
easyJet picks Austria for EU air operator certificate after Brexit



More businesses piling into the 'happening bunker'. Are things looking pretty good yet?
People said that last year but were ignored. There is a sizeable wait for businesses to implement post-brexit moves so they needed re-assurances this time last year to be able to stay in the UK. The delay by May has simply meant that companies are slowly passing the point of no return and jumping to avoid huge disruption.
 

Found the part in question:
Power to implement withdrawal agreement
21 (1) A devolved authority may by regulations make such provision as the devolved authority considers appropriate for the purposes of implementing the withdrawal agreement if the devolved authority considers that such provision should be in force on or before exit day.
(2) A Minister of the Crown acting jointly with a devolved authority may by regulations make such provision as they consider appropriate for the purposes of implementing the withdrawal agreement if they consider that such provision should be in force on or before exit day.
(3) Regulations under this Part may make any provision that could be made by an Act
of Parliament.

(4) But regulations under this Part may not—
(a) impose or increase taxation,
(b) make retrospective provision,
(c) create a relevant criminal offence,
(d) confer a power to legislate (other than a power to make rules of procedure for a court or tribunal),
(e) modify this Act,
(f) modify any subordinate legislation made under this Act unless the regulations are modifying any subordinate legislation made by the devolved authority concerned or are made by a Minister of the Crown acting jointly with a devolved authority, or
(g) amend, repeal or revoke the Human Rights Act 1998 or any subordinate legislation made under it.
(5) Sub-paragraph (4)(d) does not prevent any modification of a power to legislate which involves an extension of the power and does not go beyond the subject-matter of the power.
(6) No regulations may be made under this Part after exit day.
(7) Regulations under this Part, so far as made by a devolved authority, are also subject to paragraphs 22 to 26.

No power to make provision outside devolved competence
22 (1) No regulations may be made under this Part by a devolved authority unless every provision of them is within the devolved competence of the devolved authority.
(2) In this Part “devolved competence” has the same meaning as in Part 2 (see paragraphs 18 to 20).

No power to modify retained direct EU legislation etc.
23 (1) No regulations may be made under this Part by a devolved authority which modify any retained direct EU legislation or anything which is retained EU law by virtue of section 4.
(2) No regulations may be made under this Part by a devolved authority which, when made, are inconsistent with any modification (whether or not in force) made by this Act, or a Minister of the Crown under this Act, of—
(a) any retained direct EU legislation, or
(b) anything which is retained EU law by virtue of section 4.

No power to confer certain functions relating to EU tertiary legislation
24 No regulations may be made under this Part by a devolved authority which confer functions which correspond to functions to make EU tertiary legislation.
 
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Boris Johnson is, unbelievably, even more loathsome than Jacob Rees Mogg, something I never thought I'd say about anyone. But at least Mogg is consistent in his appalling beliefs, whereas Johnson is one of the most power hungry, amoral people in Britain. He *knows* this is fucking over Britain like nothing else, he was the Mayor of London ffs - but it doesn't care as it's all about him becoming PM.

I have to agree. He is by some distance the most immoral politician in the United Kingdom. I don't often say much for Farage (don't ever?), but at least he had some conviction in Leave. Johnson is just a vacuum of morality desperate to be filled by power.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
Boris Johnson is so transparently power-hungry that it would be funny if it weren't so frightening. "Opportunist" is putting it lightly.
 

theaface

Member
How does this work then? Obviously it's bollocks because it's the Express but how do they work out having to build a city the size of Birmingham every 2 years with 125000 immigrants per year?

Never mind that, look at the right hand side. She's not a doctor, she's a nurse! She should be helping our NHS instead!
 

jelly

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This is brexit in a nutshell

One side has a stack of notes and looks prepared and the other has a smiling David Davis

Government wants hard Brexit and the EU to be the focus and cause of UK misery following Brexit because they wouldn't give us everything we want. It's so obvious.

Lol, bureaucracy is what Brexiters will say. Look at all that paper, let's leave now. No regulations, no rights, no porn, that's what we want. Get on with it.
 
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