Holy crap, that's hilarious.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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Holy crap, that's hilarious.
Darkstorne
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Yeah, I completely agree, and I know what you mean about feeling elitist. It's annoying to have to worry about that. My brother's girlfriend lives in a council flat, has a five year old and a one year old. She got pregnant as soon as she finished her GCSEs and has never worked a single job since. She lived on benefits at home with her first kid, and as soon as the second kid started school and my brother asked her to find a job now that she had free time in the day, she suddenly ended up pregnant again. Hmmm.
Naturally, she voted Leave, because she's sick of all these immigrants coming to our country and living on benefits. I've always hated her, and this result has killed her relationship with my brother. He's planning on leaving her this year because he's sick of being the only one trying to make a living and having to spend every penny on bills and his two kids while his partner literally sits around on Facebook all day. Blaming immigrants is her scapegoat mechanism.
Yup, best case scenario if we manage to stay in is a generation-long stint on the naughty table. No more trying to resist "ever closer union" legislation, no more taking advantage of our unique EU membership, and no more holding our own on the whole-stage as everyone will know our influence has been very publicly knee-capped.
Palculator
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One of the funniest things I've seen all year.
HazySaiyan
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It's actually astonishing, both the government and the opposition have gone into hiding and the only person trying to do anything is the First Minister. It'd be funny if it was so infuriating and spineless.
No there isn't anything to stop the government to raising the minimum wage but considering that 60% of Romanian and Bulgarian immigrants claimed self-employment status I'm not sure a rise in the minimum wage rate would ease any downward pressure.
Can corroborate. My dad has a fanatical interest in the internet and uses it almost exclusively to research UFOs and 911 conspiracy theories. Access to the internet is not an automatic access to the truth.
I blame the EU (fire safety regulations)
Um, no?
No-one can force Cameron to do anything now. The Brexiters have precisely 0 power over him. That went with the resignation speech. All they can do is spee dup the process - which the brexiters don't want either, because they know that means they will have to invoke article 50.
Cameron *wants* the economy to go south. He wants things to get so bad people start panicking. It's the way out of the horrific mess he's created. I don't think that's a pipedream - I think it's unlikely, but I think day by day right now people are seeing the issues and changing their mind. The flat out lies from the lev campaign over spending and immigration are being exposed constantly - I thought it would take much longer for the wheels to come off that particular bus.
The UK as a proper member of the EU without all the idiot posturing and sense of superiority would be something I would love to see. Seems pretty unlikely at this point, however.
Understatement of the year. If UKIP are the only party on a pro-Leave ticket they will be hard to keep out of power.
intheinbetween
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If, by any chance, you get to stay in the EU, I'm afraid you will face conflicts because many people wanted to leave but they finally didn't, so this might looks hyperbollic, but that could be a really tough problem.
GamerMax73
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Things are going to get messy either way.
UKIP have been the only party on a pro-Leave ticket for over a decade. It's got them one MP so far.
If a general is held, and the economy has gone south, and Boris Johnson ends up campaigning on a platform which doesn't involve article 50, I don't think we'll suddenly see 200+ UKIP MPs.
This is just bullshit. The vast majority of politicians only do things for their own self interests. It has been this way since the beginning of democracy. It's up to the electorate to decide what is and isn't true. Thinking this way absolves the electorate from any responsibility for their actions. It wasn't my fault you see it was the politicians fault for lying, it was their fault for not getting all their facts out, it was their fault for not having convincing enough arguments, and it was their fault for this or that. Politicians lie. It's what they do best. It's up to the people to stay informed, and make informed decisions because politicians generally don't have their best interest at heart. At the end of the day the people only have themselves to blame for this situation.
PJV3
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The government needs to offer enough to make it manageable. It will have to if they want a functioning country.
No, but politicians can blame the EU anyway.
One things that hurts most through all this discussion - as being part of the 48% Remainers that are being met from people all round the world with 'Oh Well, too bad fuck all the UK, self important pricks'
As a remainer I will remember this kind of compassion when other nations are in need of some
As a remainer I will remember this kind of compassion when other nations are in need of some
ferrasvansen
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Get on the blower to Elon Musk and promise Brexiters London will pay for a Hyperloop going all the way up North.
Juncker basically said the same thing. Schulz will surely be up for it as well.
Because they wouldn't be in a position to implement it? Because having a detailed plan that gets picked apart line by line is just going to lose them votes?
Carl2291
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He's a fascist cunt who leads a party that claimed close to 4 Million votes in the last GE and has single handedly forced the issue of this referendum. He's forever in the news, for better or for worse, and following the results of this referendum his party has never been in a stronger position.
If a GE is called when the Tories choose a leader, you can bet your bollocks that UKIP and Farage will be extremely well. Labour and the Tories are fractured, Lib Dems are dead in the water and the Greens are a joke.
While UKIP will never win, they'll be a force in British politics if the major parties don't stop fucking up every step of the way.
One things that hurts most through all this discussion - as being part of the 48% Remainers that are being met from people all round the world with 'Oh Well, too bad fuck all the UK, self important pricks'
As a remainer I will remember this kind of compassion when other nations are in need of some
Welcome to being an American on gaf
One things that hurts most through all this discussion - as being part of the 48% Remainers that are being met from people all round the world with 'Oh Well, too bad fuck all the UK, self important pricks'
As a remainer I will remember this kind of compassion when other nations are in need of some
it's a sad day for our standing in the world but this is quite common
remember all the grief americans got around the globe when they re-elected george w bush
by a 51%-48% margin....
Don't argue with people who are obviously idiots?
Last time was 1700s
The Conservatives stood at the last general on a ticket of providing a referendum on membership of the EU. Which they have now done.
If you seriously think those people who are still happy with their Leave vote are going to vote Conservative again when they are campaigning to ignore the referendum then you are sorely mistaken. The Remain vote is going to be split three or more ways.
The only question is, what percentage of Leave voters still support Leave.
One things that hurts most through all this discussion - as being part of the 48% Remainers that are being met from people all round the world with 'Oh Well, too bad fuck all the UK, self important pricks'
As a remainer I will remember this kind of compassion when other nations are in need of some
I'm Greek. In Germany. Imagine my life during the whole Grexit chaos.
I could still use some actual numbers to counter it tho because in the coming days i'm gonna have to argue with a lot of idiots, and economy isn't my strong point
RedSparrows
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He's also talking shit. Single market only worth £4 billion a year to UK? Righto!
wow Alastair campbell just ethered pretty much everyone on BBC right now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcnews
rewind to 17:27
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcnews
rewind to 17:27
I assume the Tories will run on a pro-leave ticket. If there's any hint of them them regressing on the referendum in an election then they'll suffer like the Lib Dems did over tuition fees. However if they are pro-leave then that makes UKIP a bit redundant so the Tories could win votes back from them.
Perhaps we could have a new party with Pro-Eu Tories and New Labour to go in between Boris and Corbyn.
So don't reveal it to the public?
Napoleonthechimp
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I'd just like to point out that the city of my birth (Leicester) voted to remain in the EU. It was a narrow victory but I'm glad they did.
Palculator
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You should've disguised yourself as being German by feigning enthusiasm for Butterkuchen, but you stubbornly refused!
jakonovski
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How about asking him to back up all the claims and numbers he's putting out, because they're obviously all made up.
As long as Britain hasn't triggered art. 50, none.
I can't imagine it won't exit though.
That was a very interesting and disconcerting read. Thanks for posting, it's definitely got me thinking and is changing my mind a bit on some stuff.
video?
ClosingADoor
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If they stay, they stay on the same conditions as now and nothing changes. If they leave and then want to rejoin, they would likely lose the special status they have now when it comes to Schengen, Euro and rebate.
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One things that hurts most through all this discussion - as being part of the 48% Remainers that are being met from people all round the world with 'Oh Well, too bad fuck all the UK, self important pricks'
As a remainer I will remember this kind of compassion when other nations are in need of some
People who take that attitude are idiots. It boils down to a large number of people delivering a vote of no-confidence in an institution that is far, far, from being above criticism, it's not like we've declared war on anyone.
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