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The Underground Website Where You Can Buy Any Drug Imaginable
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parrotbeak
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Would rather have an adrenal gland.bengraven said:
tearsofash
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Sounds more complicated than those mail order marijuana sites where the only safeguard is being forced to use anonymous email sites.
Someone is selling a jailbroken ipad 2 there in the "Other Drugs" category. XD
Someone is selling a jailbroken ipad 2 there in the "Other Drugs" category. XD
Something Wicked
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Sell the Dollar.
Sell the Euro.
Buy the Bitcoin.
Sell the Euro.
Buy the Bitcoin.
RustyNails
Member
Bitcoins will be destroyed by the governments and will only work as secret underground currency to be used in placed like illegal drug markets.
Yeah, that's not true.PantherLotus said:
I used to order stuff from Canadian websites all the time a few years ago. Mostly research chemicals, like 2c-I, but occasionally we got other, less legal stuff (acid and weed were the easiest to obtain). This is a logical step in the drug trade. I won't be testing it out, although it is tempting to get some opium from them.
ChoklitReign
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Normally I'd agree with him, but there's a little problem called the corporation. Economic crimes should be an exception to the rule.
Here comes the crackdown.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senators-seek-crackdown-on-rb-4251307580.html?x=0&.v=1
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senators-seek-crackdown-on-rb-4251307580.html?x=0&.v=1
no shit.
this kind of stuff is going to force policy change on the war on drugs. control is slipping through their fingers and the only way they're going to be able to maintain control is through legalisation, decriminalisation, and regulation. more relaxed marijuana laws sweeping across america, state by state, are a prelude to this.
hell, it's about time.
Seraphinianus
Banned
bump--
was reading about TOR this weekend and Silk Road in particular. I decided it's not illegal to browse and took a look.
Wow. just wow. This is the real internet, folks.
The article doesn't talk about all the other shit for sale there--
--guns + ammo
--probably child porn ( there's a "XXX" section and I'm assuming it's not videos you can find on Xhamster...but I didn't click it)
--other illegal weapons (monkey fists, brass knuckles, knives, chemicals)
--not just drugs, but every single drug under the sun and a ton that I didn't recognize
--various guides to tell you how to hack various things for money, passwords, etc.
--credit card readers
From what I can tell, a lot of people on that side of the internet have a pretty strong Libertarian slant (no surprises.) Many would like to see Silk Road be an example of a legitimate free market built entirely on bitcoins, so you see random legal items up there too. It's pretty fucking fascinating. They've got a forum where people discuss every aspect of buying and selling, from setting up PGP to laundering bitcoins to packaging, receiving, etc. Apparently there are 50,000+ users, with a big boom after the gawker article, which forced them to upgrade and decentralize their hardware after their servers crashed from the traffic. The mods on the site think it's a good thing that there are so many users-- I imagine it makes it less likely that the government will go after low level buyers (1/8 bag of weed) and go after the higher level guys instead (dealers, weapon/CP buyers.)
I was reading about other onion sites on reddit-- apparently there are "assassination" boards where people can request...yeah. Seemed inconclusive as to whether it's real or not. I imagine if the government could do something about it, they would have by now.
There's a feedback system and all the sellers want every communication coded in PGP. No feedback system for buyers though. If this is a honey trap, well, it's pretty damn elaborate because people are buying, selling, and receiving drugs.
anyway, just thought some people would find this interesting. I get my herb locally, but I wouldn't rule out trying it in the future. Kind of a high technical level of entry though (but hey, you've always wanted to learn how to launder money...right?!) On the other hand, senators spoke out about it around the time the Gawker article came out and wanted it busted, so it's probably a matter of time before the cops get some busts off of it.
was reading about TOR this weekend and Silk Road in particular. I decided it's not illegal to browse and took a look.
Wow. just wow. This is the real internet, folks.
The article doesn't talk about all the other shit for sale there--
--guns + ammo
--probably child porn ( there's a "XXX" section and I'm assuming it's not videos you can find on Xhamster...but I didn't click it)
--other illegal weapons (monkey fists, brass knuckles, knives, chemicals)
--not just drugs, but every single drug under the sun and a ton that I didn't recognize
--various guides to tell you how to hack various things for money, passwords, etc.
--credit card readers
From what I can tell, a lot of people on that side of the internet have a pretty strong Libertarian slant (no surprises.) Many would like to see Silk Road be an example of a legitimate free market built entirely on bitcoins, so you see random legal items up there too. It's pretty fucking fascinating. They've got a forum where people discuss every aspect of buying and selling, from setting up PGP to laundering bitcoins to packaging, receiving, etc. Apparently there are 50,000+ users, with a big boom after the gawker article, which forced them to upgrade and decentralize their hardware after their servers crashed from the traffic. The mods on the site think it's a good thing that there are so many users-- I imagine it makes it less likely that the government will go after low level buyers (1/8 bag of weed) and go after the higher level guys instead (dealers, weapon/CP buyers.)
I was reading about other onion sites on reddit-- apparently there are "assassination" boards where people can request...yeah. Seemed inconclusive as to whether it's real or not. I imagine if the government could do something about it, they would have by now.
There's a feedback system and all the sellers want every communication coded in PGP. No feedback system for buyers though. If this is a honey trap, well, it's pretty damn elaborate because people are buying, selling, and receiving drugs.
anyway, just thought some people would find this interesting. I get my herb locally, but I wouldn't rule out trying it in the future. Kind of a high technical level of entry though (but hey, you've always wanted to learn how to launder money...right?!) On the other hand, senators spoke out about it around the time the Gawker article came out and wanted it busted, so it's probably a matter of time before the cops get some busts off of it.
Technosteve
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i could buy a minkey's paw on the internet? I must prepare my wishes
Seraphinianus
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Technosteve said:
don't wish for a board with a nail so big that it'll destroy the whole world plz
MWS Natural
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I can finally get my Roid Rage on!!
picklecannon
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ajim said:
Yeah I think there was a thread either here or on reddit not to long ago where some dude went on a couple of these hidden websites and got a forum full of drug dealing, prostitution and people hiring hitmen. Crazy stuff.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I'd be afraid to go there.
Seraphinianus
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mr stroke said:
mail drugs to your house.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Wow, online black market?
DO THEY SELL $99 HP TOUCHPADS!?!
DO THEY SELL $99 HP TOUCHPADS!?!
Seraphinianus
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FantasticMrFoxdie said:
no, but i'm sure you could buy the poison to take out the morning line up and be first in line to buy one, complete with a free kiddy to diddle afterwards.
Its only a matter of time before the DEA/FBI/INTERPOL/BATMAN comes down hard on tor related illegal activities, but still, something like this has almost unlimited potential to grow. Even if law enforcement created a magical machine that could give up every tor users identity, the next day drug dealers are just going to be back with another shiny new device thing to sell the product. Ive browsed tor just out of curiosity some and I can't even imagine what a "deeper" web could escalate to.
Seraphinianus
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Futureman said:
it shot up to something ridiculous like $20 after the Gawker article came out. Silk Road automatically adjusts pricing when this happens, apparently (sellers set prices in USD, Silk Road converts it dynamically. They aren't really off the dollar's teat, which I feel clashes with some of the libertarian arguments in favor of it.)
One of the big bit coin sites got hacked and lost $250,000 worth of the stuff and maybe there were some others, but it stayed strong throughout that. Probably thanks to it being the main currency on Silk Road...I imagine the other shady dealings sites use it too.
oddly enough, bit coin is the most fascinating part of this whole thing to me. (besides the whole "amazing drugs delivered to your door" part.) Makes me look at money a lot differently.
Seraphinianus
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Previous said:
this is my issue with buying herb from there. there haven't been any busts yet, afaik. which means there are busts coming-- this thing can't just grow and exist without getting fucked with at some point (and probably soon.) They know about it, they probably understand it completely and are in the process of tracing/tracking/social engineering to round up people.
was that huge pedophile ring that got busted a few weeks ago TOR related?
I wish Silk Road had some limits on it- smallish quantities of weed only. but uh, the only rules are no WMDs and no human trafficking. so, Joe Averageweedsmoker gets lumped in with all the trash.
Fascinating article and an interesting way to go about things. Silk Road basically sounds like that guy who knows a guy who can get pretty much anything... except it's all catalogued and the seller has eBay-like feedback.
The idea of a completely open market where basically anything can be sold both excites and scares the complete fuck out of me.
The idea of a completely open market where basically anything can be sold both excites and scares the complete fuck out of me.
TL4E said:
Yeah, this. There's nothing to stop the DEA from setting up a false storefront and then arresting whoever picks up the package at the PO Box (or at their house if they're dumb enough to have their drugs shipped directly).
Not really on topic but reading the OP left me so exasperated. Just let people buy fucking drugs if they want them.
Smision said:
OK now this leaves me pretty much convinced that the entire thing is one gigantic honeypot.
Seraphinianus
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FStop7 said:
i may have been unclear-- the assassination thing is some other TOR site that some guy mentioned on reddit, not Silk Road.
but unless this is the most elaborate gov't conspiracy ever, Silk Road is pretty real. The feedback system is what keeps it "safe" and the forums have lots of information on anonymizing everything to the point where you have a pretty impenetrable shield of plausible deniability. Usually, people have stuff sent to them directly, but with a slightly altered name. Or they have it sent to vacant property.
NEOPARADIGM
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I spent a good hour looking into this ... "interested" if you catch my drift.
It's way too complicated compared to the risk from what I gathered.
But the libertarian ideas behind it are pretty rad. Interested to see where it all leads.
It's way too complicated compared to the risk from what I gathered.
But the libertarian ideas behind it are pretty rad. Interested to see where it all leads.
2012
Tor is unique to say the least and Silk Road as well...
but the rabbit hole goes so much further. It's like living out 8mm, but through the internet. It will be interesting to see what government response is. Maybe Scrow is right and it will lead to some decriminalization, which would be great or this is just going to turn into the new way to vilify the internet even more (which seems more likely). Man if Barbara Walters was still active to do 20/20 this would be one hell of a segment to watch.
but the rabbit hole goes so much further. It's like living out 8mm, but through the internet. It will be interesting to see what government response is. Maybe Scrow is right and it will lead to some decriminalization, which would be great or this is just going to turn into the new way to vilify the internet even more (which seems more likely). Man if Barbara Walters was still active to do 20/20 this would be one hell of a segment to watch.
These websites are easy to find, i was researching about the pollutants in British hash, stumbled across a big forum selling drugs in the UK.. I check the prices from time to time, they do face to face meetings, postings, you pay by pay pal.
All fake sellers are weeded out by the rep system..
man i just found it again, by typing in two words in google.. this shit ain't underground
All fake sellers are weeded out by the rep system..
man i just found it again, by typing in two words in google.. this shit ain't underground
Amir0x said:
when i got friends talking about it on facebook...i know it's not something hidden anymore. we've got to go deeper, it's time to create another layer to the internet.
a secret secret internet. i shall call it, the double secret internet.
Gaborn, that doesn't seem fair. Gawker gets millions of readers a day and a lot of them also peruse GAF. if it wasn't you posting this article it would have been someone else, maybe even someone without the foresight to not post the link in this thread. Not that it would have changed anything at all, but still...
if people want to find out about this stuff it really isn't that hard and it's not like GAF is exempt from the rules of the internet. Discussion will happen about everything.
wenis said:
Thanks for your support. I'm not going to say I agree with the decision but I generally respect that most moderators are trying to do a good job (even though a PM with a warning rather than a ban would have been nice considering the length of time that has passed)
Edit: I've just been informed that the ban has been reduced to a week. I've very pleased with this and I appreciate the reconsideration.
Lost Fragment
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I can think of a lot of legitimate uses for a thing like Tor, some of them quite important, but I'm having trouble figuring out if it's worth giving murderers, thieves, child porn peddlers, and terrorists a relatively safe place to communicate with each other.
Lost Fragment said:
Those people have always communicated in relative safety, the internet and "dark nets" are certainly another vehicle for that but it's not like it would be a terrible hardship for them if dark nets didn't exist, they'd just go back to previous business models. On average I feel confident in saying that giving people NOT involved in harming people more freedom to engage in activity anonymously is a good thing.
TOR is such a bitch to set up though. And you have to buy monkey fists? Can't you just make that with some fucking colored twine? They're illegal?
Also, awesome. I only wish though. I'd be worried about Agent Dean with a pack of bloodhounds following the skunk trail. I only wish. There are lots of hidden networks and websites out there for all sorts of different shit, though. Most are just exclusive to be exclusive, but yes, the unternet is real.
Also, awesome. I only wish though. I'd be worried about Agent Dean with a pack of bloodhounds following the skunk trail. I only wish. There are lots of hidden networks and websites out there for all sorts of different shit, though. Most are just exclusive to be exclusive, but yes, the unternet is real.
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