I'd go Swan/Dolphin since that's not REALLY off site. Also the proximity to EPCOT (and it will always be an acronym to me).
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The Walt Disney community thread: the Man, the Mouse, and their legacy.
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I'd go Swan/Dolphin since that's not REALLY off site. Also the proximity to EPCOT (and it will always be an acronym to me).
Rapscallion
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Aren't they revamping the polynesian resort so that it looks more like it did when it first opened in the 70s? I think that's a great idea! Also they're adding trader vics, which if anything like the one in DL is going to be awesome.
Granted I've never stayed there, but something about classic disneyworld/land themes gets me.
Granted I've never stayed there, but something about classic disneyworld/land themes gets me.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Something about disney princesses bugs me a bit
mulan - not a princess, but totally in the line
belle - is she really a disney princess? If she got married to Beast {forgot his real name} wouldn't that make her a queen since his parents both seem to be dead and he would be a king?
-young nala - isn't she technically a princess because she's the fiance of a prince?
-kiara, definitely a princess
Are the people in cahrge of the disney princess line just suffer from Ailurophobia?
mulan - not a princess, but totally in the line
belle - is she really a disney princess? If she got married to Beast {forgot his real name} wouldn't that make her a queen since his parents both seem to be dead and he would be a king?
-young nala - isn't she technically a princess because she's the fiance of a prince?
-kiara, definitely a princess
Are the people in cahrge of the disney princess line just suffer from Ailurophobia?
Prior to Frozen I thought Disney had lost their touch or that I have outgrown them, but nope they got back on track with Tangled, another great movie though I didn't like any of the songs.
Disney's Robin Hood is the only Robin Hood movie I can watch without losing interest, too use to seeing him as a fox.
Because Mickey Mouse is a boring character compare to Goofy or Donald. Though Mickey did have a cameo in a Goofy Movie, another awesome movie.
Yeah that bugs me too, I think that they are going to make Elsa a Disney Princess when she's technically a queen and should be recognize as one.
Disney's Robin Hood is the only Robin Hood movie I can watch without losing interest, too use to seeing him as a fox.
Because Mickey Mouse is a boring character compare to Goofy or Donald. Though Mickey did have a cameo in a Goofy Movie, another awesome movie.
Yeah that bugs me too, I think that they are going to make Elsa a Disney Princess when she's technically a queen and should be recognize as one.
i consider myself a pretty big fan of disney's animated films (been watching/re-watching them all in order this year, up to tarzan atm)
however i've basically seen nothing of mickey mouse. if i saw some as kid i've completely forgotten them. my experience is really just that bit in fantasia, as well as second hand stuff like kingdom hearts or parodies in the simpsons. does anyone have an advice on where to start and how to approach watching the mickey mouse material?
however i've basically seen nothing of mickey mouse. if i saw some as kid i've completely forgotten them. my experience is really just that bit in fantasia, as well as second hand stuff like kingdom hearts or parodies in the simpsons. does anyone have an advice on where to start and how to approach watching the mickey mouse material?
SpacePirate Ridley
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If you don't mind black and white, I'd start with Steamboat Willie and Plane Crazy. They're the original mischievous Micky and most people find them less bland than the later stuff. As time goes on he gets a bit more safe and is more the center of things or the person being done unto and less the instigator.
I guess.
and megara is definitely someone i wouldn't mind in the princess line.
There's the Walt Disney Treasure DVD series. I have the Donald Duck ones and they have all the shorts (featuring Donald) in chronological order. Makes it easy to follow Donald's evolution as a character over time.
Meg would be fine in the Disney princess line, but she's in a story in which princesses are not relevant. Technically neither is Mulan but I don't know what their exception for her is. I will agree that Disney tends to steer clear of Hercules at all costs. Esmeralda, Wendy, and Alice
outside of Kingdom Hearts
Jailer of Hope
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I always did like megara more than most other disney female leads.
She had more backstory than most, wasn't completely pure and good, and was actually pretty funny.
SpacePirate Ridley
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And I hate them for that
I think ive seen Esmeralda in the princess line in some materials.
Jasmine is definately not the star of Aladdin.
An Hercules character un a meet and greet? awesome. Megara is my favourite disney female.
EDIT After watching the video, I think im in love.
And I hate them for that
I think ive seen Esmeralda in the princess line in some materials.
Jasmine is definately not the star of Aladdin.
An Hercules character un a meet and greet? awesome. Megara is my favourite disney female.
Forgot about Jasmine since I don't like Aladdin much, but she would be the exception. I still think Disney probably figures Meg has too much "bad girl" baggage.
SpacePirate Ridley
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I suppose it's that. They dont like to use Hercules very much either, maybe they secretly hate the movie.
It surprises me you say you dont like Aladdin though, I thought it was universally loved like The Lion King.
Yeah! Keep the Meg love flowing.
peteykirch
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Plus the Swan and Dolphin guests get the Extended Magic Hours as well.
It was a deal through Costco, for two people, 7 days, 6 nights and 6 day park hoppers was like 1800.
Yeah, they're not for everyone. They're not musicals (although the first one has a song in the end credits by Selena Gomez, and the second one Demi Lovato), the target audience is different (younger and more female), and they're not as "big" as proper Disney movies, but they're cute and they know what they're doing, and they've got heart. Which isn't true of the previous Disney Sequels, which tended to be incompetent (through no real fault of the artists involved, it's kind of difficult to storyboard a sequel to Mulan in one week, while not even being allowed to watch Mulan first).
I figure the Tinkerbell movies have earned "a look", and most people who don't like them tend to find them harmless and inoffensive, but if you do like them (and I do), then there's more where that came from.
The first movie, BTW, is an origin story and involves Tink being born into Fairy society, and has themes of finding your place in the world. There isn't even a villain in the entire movie (none of them have any), it's all character.
I value heart more than anything in my animated movies. Like, when I saw brother bear this morning for the first time it was mediocre in a lot of ways but it had plenty of heart.
Not to mention if these tinkerbell movies are any good it'll give me hope that the upcoming lion king TV movie and animated series might actually be good.
Not to mention if these tinkerbell movies are any good it'll give me hope that the upcoming lion king TV movie and animated series might actually be good.
Read a bunch if disney vault stuff for a work study, such a shame his original idea for EPCOT was scrapped after he died, would have been tremendous and the amount of thought that went into every aspect of his city was mind blowing.
For example all shops would be on a single circular street so you could pass them all without needing to back track.
Then he died, and they just made it into another theme park area
For example all shops would be on a single circular street so you could pass them all without needing to back track.
Then he died, and they just made it into another theme park area
The only time I've ever seen them do a meet and greet with Hercules characters is that friends from the past event that they do every so often.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I find Jasmine so annoying.
Anybody in this thread read Jim Hill?
http://jimhillmedia.com/ the website looks like it was done in the 90's and is rarely updated but the podcasts are kinda awesome.
http://jimhillmedia.com/ the website looks like it was done in the 90's and is rarely updated but the podcasts are kinda awesome.
SpacePirate Ridley
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This looks interesting, thanks! Will hear some podcasts tomorrow to see how they are.
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Megara is cool.
To anyone here looking forward to Kingdom Hearts 3, what are your hopes for it?
DREAM DROP DISTANCE SPOILERS
I also hope there's a new pridelands level
star wars and mahvel, baby
No lightning, or snow. Sazh is a bro, i'd be okay if he was in it. Balthier would be a boss addition.
For the disney side of things to play an active role in the story again.
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I hope that since kairi is now a keyblade master, she is playable along with sora and riku
I also hope there's a new pridelands level
that ignores most of simbas pride, though Kiara can stay since she's the least worst new part of the movie, or can be worked into something good. The rest of the new characters can rot though
star wars and mahvel, baby
No lightning, or snow. Sazh is a bro, i'd be okay if he was in it. Balthier would be a boss addition.
For the disney side of things to play an active role in the story again.
I use to read him but I found he has a bit of a rep on other sites of reporting every odd rumor he hears as fact. His site's usually a fun read, but take huge grains of salt with anything he says about upcoming projects.
Oh, and the Aladdin thing. It's all right I suppose, but my Disney love is mostly centered around Walt and the Parks and some of the older movies, including the live action ones from the 60's and 70's. I was already in college when Beauty and the Beast and the rest of the Renaissance flims came out so they don't have as much nostalgia for me.
Nevermind the hypocrisy of Disney standing on the shoulders of so much great public domain work.
I don't hate disney princesses, or their movies
except for pocahontas
i'm just saying, they include characters that aren't princesses but exclude characters that are.
but to be honest, I really don't know much about the disney princess line. apparently it's very popular? and there are direct to video movies?
I haven't watched a direct to video disney sequel since the lion king 2. I recently rewatched it for the first time since 1997 and I remember why I only watched it once.
The Disney Princess line is basically just a marketing brand, created by Disney Consumer Products. If there's a Disney-branded thing that you can buy, Then Disney Consumer Products probably had a hand in it.
- Merida from Brave is in, despite the director intending Brave to be a subversion of Disney Princess stereotypes, because her toys sell well.
- Mulan is in, despite not technically being a Princess, because her toys sell well.
- Anna & Elsa are in, despite Anna being a Queen, because she looks young and their toys are selling amazingly well.
- Meg is not in, because her toys don't sell.
- Nala is not in, because she's a furry, and doesn't fit with a line that was built on uniformity.
The direct-to-video sequels were initially just a cheap moneygrab pushed by Eisner, and not part of the marketing plans of Disney Consumer Products. When Lasseter took over, one of his first orders was that all of the cheap sequels had to end... unless DCP said they specifically wanted them. DCP has a ton of power, because the Disney Princess line of merchandise rakes in epic amounts of money.
Tinkerbell's toys have been selling amazingly well for ages, so one would expect that she'd be an easy pick for the Disney Princess line, but DCP invented an entirely different line around her, the Disney Fairies line.
BocoDragon
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It's funny... though I watched the big Disney movies as a kid (Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King), I was never in love with the brand as a youth. I kind of disliked it.
But through my 20s, I fell in love with it. Between a love for the parks, Kingdom Hearts, and the acquisition of Marvel and Lucas, now I love the brand. And I have an adult appreciation for the animation now too.
Watched Little Mermaid with the gf recently and had a blast.
But through my 20s, I fell in love with it. Between a love for the parks, Kingdom Hearts, and the acquisition of Marvel and Lucas, now I love the brand. And I have an adult appreciation for the animation now too.
Watched Little Mermaid with the gf recently and had a blast.
Oh. Okay.
Well, since disney now gives a rats arse about their legacy movie stuff maybe the new lion king related media won't suck? I mean, they still need to bring back matthew broderick, and if
mufasa is returning, in spirit form, bring back james earl jones?
I wonder if ever since Madge Sinclair died shortly after tlk's release, that they either retired sarabi as a character or just silently had her die in between TLK 1 and 2. Then again, most decisions made for simbas pride made very little sense.
Death Metalist
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So i was looking at the Walt Disney treasures DVD sets and damn are they expensive as hell now they are OOP. For example:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DPHDC4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Does anyone know if these sets include everything that said character was in? because if so then i'd probably get it but at a later date. Pretty crazy how expensive the volumes are for Goofy, Mickey, Donald and Pluto. Beautiful looking sets though.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DPHDC4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Does anyone know if these sets include everything that said character was in? because if so then i'd probably get it but at a later date. Pretty crazy how expensive the volumes are for Goofy, Mickey, Donald and Pluto. Beautiful looking sets though.
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Disney princess really is just a marketing term.
I had no idea.
but anyway, who else is {impatiently] waiting for guardians of the galaxy?
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George Oscar Bluth II
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