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Well PS+ gives away 2-3 select downloadable games free, during a period. Maybe Nintendo could do something like that, any GC or prior console game that's avaliable you can download free, maybe a couple each month.
Dreamwriter
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Well, when Retro works on something that isn't a huge IP, it tends to be canceled due to poor quality. They apparently need these huge franchises so they can get all the help from the rest of Nintendo to end up with a game worthy of release (and then the combination of them plus Nintendo Japan results with some great games).
fabricated backlash
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Dude your coloring (No I will not add the u, no offense or anything) is amazing. I wish I could color like that, I'm more of a line artist and not even that good at that.
Thanks. I'm trying my best.
Thanks, I will. I didn't want to come of as pretentious.
SE should drop the Final Fantasy brand, and just repurpose Crystal Chronicles as its own stand alone IP. It's not a FF game really, anyways, and it would give them more IP to leverage.
PS+ would be awesome but Nintendo have club nintendo as their way of rewarding fans.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Wich the Wii has. Was at Nintendows website and the Kirby channel is supposed to be back with all episodes for you to enjoy. So that already happened
bgassassin
Member
This is more in the line of what I was thinking. Some cheap VC games would do the trick. You have to give people a reason to continue paying through the length of the agreement. Though I still wonder how MS will deal with those who don't pay the monthly or the early termination fee.
nintendors
Member
hey NeoGaf needs fan war BS to reduce its ever increasing population right ? good for the economy lol
Squenix have no reason not to cash on the 3DS hype right now,,, that game on the 3DS seems like a perfect fit amirite ?
then they should let From Software develop it
They've never done online gaming on this scale though, I could see them doing some extra things differently to entice people. If they could make a little extra money doing a Nintendo Network+ they should.
fabricated backlash
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By all the help from the rest of Nintendo, do you mean the occasional Email from Miyamoto, or some video conferences with Shibata? Nintendos input on Retro is mainly restricted to an advisor, management level, and has nothing to do with the quality of Retros Team.
I also fail to see how the cancellation of prototypes that Nintendo didn't want is an indication of quality. If you really believe that Nintendo only ever cancelled Retros pitches or prototypes because of quality, after Metroid Prime, your argument stands on very thin ice.
Most of the information that came out of Retro regarding the post MP2 cancellations was that Nintendo didn't want these games in their blue ocean strategy. Given that Retro was very vocal about their dissapointement at the Wii hardware, it's very clear that Retro wanted to make games with a lot more depth and production values. Nintendo simply didn't want to invest resources in such games, no matter the quality.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Jep, we need a Nintendo MMO. And i belive every Nintendo game has an online feature. Even if its "only" stuff like "ColdBlooder got all 150 stars in Mario Universe" posted on FB or Twitter.
Mario with a very awesome singleplayer + drop in/drop out coop if you activate the online mode? Would be sweet!
I also belive that the "Gameplay streaming" ability will be included. Or the "Call friend for help" option, wich lets your friend see on his controller what you see on the TV screen and could then give you instructions via voice chat.
So much potential, its amazing. I hope they use the consoles features to its fullest!
Yeah, the MS idea does sound risky, it will be interesting to hear some of the "trouble" cases, and hear how they are handled.
I have a feeling when Retro reveals its game, there will be a massive bitchfest.
"Wahhh why didn't they make a new Metroid??"
"Donkey Kong Country sequel!? What the fuck! What a waste of talent!"
"Star Fox?! Animals in space ships is so lame! What a waste of talent!"
"I wanted a western developed Zelda that looks like Skyrim!"
"Where's my Uncharted killer!?"
"Eternal Darkness 2? Mehhh...Nobody except neogaf played Eternal Darkness 1...Waste of talent!"
You just know it will happen lol.
"Wahhh why didn't they make a new Metroid??"
"Donkey Kong Country sequel!? What the fuck! What a waste of talent!"
"Star Fox?! Animals in space ships is so lame! What a waste of talent!"
"I wanted a western developed Zelda that looks like Skyrim!"
"Where's my Uncharted killer!?"
"Eternal Darkness 2? Mehhh...Nobody except neogaf played Eternal Darkness 1...Waste of talent!"
You just know it will happen lol.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
How MS will deal with those who don't pay? Cut off their service, bill them, and if they still don't pay they'll send them to collections.
ColdBlooder
Banned
If that wouldn´t happen we wouldn´t be on GAF.
Nintendo bitching and praising at its finest starting 0,01 seconds into the conference.
"Dat stage looks shitty, this company will never learn!" lol!
Dreamwriter
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I'm sure we'll be getting lots of Square-Enix games on Wii-U - they've really embraced multi platform releases. Here's what I'm hoping for: Final Fantasy 14 Online 2.0 on Wii-U near launch. This is one of the best looking MMO's on PC, with things like great realtime depth of field and its awesome FMV's being rendered in realtime, and all the revamps for the 2.0 release (which has been announced for a PS3 release in late fall) should make it a good game. It would be a good technical showcase for the system.
I agree, it would work on the 3DS, big time. I also see them thinking about the Wii U though, because it was the first RPG to incorporate GameCube-Game Boy Advance compatibility, so I could see them saying "hey the Wii U is built with a second screen, that's what we wanted ten years ago."
Wich the Wii has. Was at Nintendows website and the Kirby channel is supposed to be back with all episodes for you to enjoy. So that already happened
It was a joke attempt (like "ahahaha, Nintendo will only offer this in compensation for a monthly fee !")
a failed attempt as bg took me seriously :/
nintendors
Member
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA damn I said this same sentence last year XD Boy how wrong was I ? specialy when they started that cool Pseudo 3D thingie with 3DS games AMAZING !!!
Father_Brain
Banned
I loved Assault !! but I still have a special place for SF64 in my heart, what I'm suggesting is a whole reboot that make the series go mainstream ala Mass Effect,Dark Souls kinda of thing,, although those games are completely new entries, StarFox has the bases to grow into such bigger franchise but with Nintendo touches
Couldn't disagree more, sorry. I think that the combination of the flight genre and the anthropomorphic character design inherently limits the franchise to a niche audience, and that Nintendo would be very unlikely to turn a profit from spending an HD retail budget on it. One can only hope the rumors are false and they don't squander their premier Western studio on it as well.
bgassassin
Member
Yeah that would be the most likely recourse. That would be the main downside to that purchase option IMO. Even if the customer is at fault they would still likely have some resentment towards MS.
Or you took me seriously.
I definitely believe the rumor is false. If Retro is making a game for the PS360 audience, Star Fox doesn't fit the bill.
tkscz
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And I have to disagree with you. The only Limit starfox has is that no one wants to advance it past the on-rail flight gameplay. Look at what happened with Adventure and Assault. A lot of reviewers main complaint is that it didn't stick with the on-rail flight and tried to deviate from it. Again, StarFox could make an amazing TPS if Nintendo is willing to either out the work in themselves or outsource it to a competent company. Hell, make the main campaign 4-player co-op and you got yourself one hell of a game.
ColdBlooder
Banned
I thought it was an AMAZING stage! I wonder how this years stage will look like?
It just feels more new and refreshing than the mainline titles. Plus I like the name. A lot.
I think Nintendo may push for the game which will sells very well and profitable. By looking at Retro History, I think DK has sell more than metroids.. may be in the end we will be getting another DK.. Starfox never sell like mario or dk. but definitely will be cool with re-imagination
http://www.********.com/game/45674/donkey-kong-country-returns/
http://www.********.com/game/1339/metroid-prime/
http://www.********.com/game/2220/star-fox-adventures/
http://www.********.com/game/2222/star-fox-assault/
Or may be reboot to Metroid prime series and may be we will be getting a third person shooter and adventure..
I think Nintendo's focus will be massively on online gaming.
http://www.********.com/game/45674/donkey-kong-country-returns/
http://www.********.com/game/1339/metroid-prime/
http://www.********.com/game/2220/star-fox-adventures/
http://www.********.com/game/2222/star-fox-assault/
Or may be reboot to Metroid prime series and may be we will be getting a third person shooter and adventure..
I think Nintendo's focus will be massively on online gaming.
tkscz
Member
Umm... did I miss something?
bgassassin
Member
Apparently I missed something too. How in the world did I make that kind of slip? >_<
This is a good idea, but I don't think Square wants two of their MMOs competing in the market so close to each other. I'm of course talking about DQ X.
Just caught-up.. I'm probably one of the few people who liked StarFox Adventures.. but then again, I'm a sucker for Zelda clone-like games.
And as far as Retro goes, we'll see whining when they reveal their project, but more folks with other wishes will be accepting of the project after some more details are given. I'd bet that only a small handful of folks will continue to whine in earnest.
And as far as Retro goes, we'll see whining when they reveal their project, but more folks with other wishes will be accepting of the project after some more details are given. I'd bet that only a small handful of folks will continue to whine in earnest.
Father_Brain
Banned
By the way, I noticed that a high-level Junction Point staffer's LinkedIn profile refers to working on Wii U. Part of me is still wondering if Spector lied to Nintendo Power about EM2, honestly - he could have come up with a more plausible excuse, or just been vaguer, if it actually isn't coming.
I liked SFA also. I agree with you about Retro, of course people will complain, because they have so many people that admire their work, so those people are gonna want Retro to make what they want them to make, after the intial chatter though, people will probaly just get hyped for the game.
A giant screen in the middle (representing one TV) and two slightly smaller screens, one on each side (representing the two subscreens that each system can handle).
The screens will be used for demos, for scripted moments, and some light comedic bits. Who knows what or who will show-up during the conference in the background?
And the kicker? During the sizzle reels, (for the extra effect of overhwleming the audience and viewers) all three screens will be showing gameplay footage - each with its own unique footage!
(I can hear the media whining while the fans are eating it up!)
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Out of these probably Gabe; Episode 3 and also HL2/Portal/L4D collections, full Steamworks integration and maybe even a Wii U dedicated Steam store.
None are really betrayaltony enough for my tastes though. I want Ueda. :3
Agree. Anihawk a few weeks (months?) ago gave me a really good reality check on the level of SE support that the lowly Wii got. And that's with SE probably putting its initial bet down heavily with Sony at the beginning of the generation, much like most everyone else.
Now that Nintendo has reinforced the whole "those who bet against Nintendo do so at their own peril" mantra, I'll bet that Japanese developers will be more inclined to follow that lesson of this generation. And SE will do well to serve as a big punctuation mark on the U's library..
Now, if only we could get them to stop diluting their own IPs..
ColdBlooder
Banned
Lets not get carried away here, you wouldn´t know where to look with 3 possible screens to look at
I fully expect media whining, no matter what is shown and how good the stuff is.
Man, the conference starts in exactly 30 days now. Can´t wait! This will be the longest 30 days!
Fucking hyped.
30 days.
nintendors
Member
I have to disagree with you, nothing can limit starfox from being many different genres, the closest example would be Star Wars franchise with its many spinoffs,,,also if u look at my original post I said Retro would be working on something unexpected like Advance Wars, and I also believe that Retro should work on something else other than StarFox.
interesting find :/ ,,,maybe some other game with another Disney protagonist ?
Dreamwriter
Member
Eh? It's pretty common knowledge that Retro really wanted Metroid Prime to be third-person, but Nintendo forced them to change it because it wasn't fun and their camera code just wasn't up to par. This was definitely a case of Nintendo severely affecting the quality of the game, as Retro fought hard over this, and they even lost their project leader over it. It's one example we know of where without Nintendo working closely witht them, the game would have apparently been a lot worse.
Thin ice?
A Retrospective: The Story of Retro Studios said:
AceBandage
Banned
Indeed.
Before MP, Retro went through a giant restructuring and was given laser sharp focus by Miyamoto and Nintendo.
They would not have been able to create such an amazing game before then.
Before MP, Retro went through a giant restructuring and was given laser sharp focus by Miyamoto and Nintendo.
They would not have been able to create such an amazing game before then.
Cygnus X-1
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Your reasoning is convincing, but I remain skeptical. I really, really hope you're right. Metroid Prime was so awesome. Especially the first game.
That would be the point. *evilgrin*Lets not get carried away here, you wouldn´t know where to look with 3 possible screens to look at
I fully expect media whining, no matter what is shown and how good the stuff is.
Man, the conference starts in exactly 30 days now. Can´t wait! This will be the longest 30 days!
Imagine the hysteria. The chaos. Let's say that you decided to follow the big screen live, knowing you could watch the subscreen videos later. The conference ends, and the mania begins..
The craziness of such a scenario for the hours afterward, the feeling of not being able to keep-up with the sheer number of games coming for the system, members of the media scrambling to get to the video footage of the screens they didn't follow while at the conference, gamers in effect having three sizzle reels instead of one.. I think it'd make quite an impression, haha!
Alternate proposition:
the main screen during the sizzle reel shows what's happening on one's TV - while the sidescreens show the corresponding subscreen footage that correlates with the game on the TV. This would also produce a smaller level of chaos and excitement.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Oh, I don't think Retro is working on Metroid Prime HD, if that's what you took away from my post. Simply that a Metroid Prime HD could theoretically appeal to a similar 'mass market' audience as BioShock does.
AceBandage
Banned
If not a Metroid Spin Off, then a reboot of the Prime games would be wonderful.
Maybe use their concepts from "Toon Metroid".
This could really help spur the franchise, I think.
Make it much more of an adventure game with a focused story and an amazing style.
Maybe use their concepts from "Toon Metroid".
This could really help spur the franchise, I think.
Make it much more of an adventure game with a focused story and an amazing style.
I've reported an interview where Spector explain Epic Mickey is planned as a trilogy so surely the third title will come to Wii U.
Or, it could AGAIN be a PR twist, why risking to divert the audience susceptible of buying the Wii version (scheduled for september if i remember right) by revealing the existence of a Wii U one that may release 2 months after. And we saw that nearly none studios could really announce their Wii U project this past year (NDA, etc.), so maybe what they said about it was just a weird way to say they can't further comment on it (doubtful). Or they count on the backward compatibility and they'll only make a Wii version of Epic Mickey 2 but include on the disc a padlet support when played on Wii U.
Now that third-party exclusives are a relic of times before us, I wonder: Is the era of the betrayalton past?
(now that I've asked it, I feel kinda silly. Watch someone prove me wrong here in 31 days.)
And a Portal collection would be friggin' incredible. With relations warming, I still don't have much hope. But there's always Steam..
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