The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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I play video games before companies.

But I find that the people who get most up in arms about fanboys are generally assholes, so no one's as squeaky clean as they think they are.

It's true. I am an arsehole.
 
The only thing that bugs me is the third-party/media conspiracy theories. Other than that I think we are pretty rational.

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Also, what do you want from Retro, in order of preference:

"Western" Zelda

Something New

Metroid 4

Starfox

The laughable crossover

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Personally I've never cared for Starfox all that much.
...Donkey Kong?
 
Im all the sudden very uncomfortable now thanks to that gif.

Anyways at first I was hesitant about the whole Fusion Saga idea...but now im kinda wanting them to make it and make it one of the best games of all time, despite the quirky premise.

It is Retro after all. On a brand new Nintendo console in HD.
 
I play video games before companies.

But I find that the people who get most up in arms about fanboys are generally assholes, so no one's as squeaky clean as they think they are.

I'm not going to lie, I am bit biased towards Nintendo. But I would like to think I am pretty senisible about it.

As for the system wars, I try to stay out of it unless someone says something I completely disagree with, no matter what side the poster is "defending".
 
Im all the sudden very uncomfortable now thanks to that gif.

Anyways at first I was hesitant about the whole Fusion Saga idea...but now im kinda wanting them to make it and make it one of the best games of all time, despite the quirky premise.

It is Retro after all. On a brand new Nintendo console in HD.

It's probably not going to be true but you must prepare yourself just in case.
 
I probably have no idea what I'm talking about, but if a 500% increase is multiplication of that number by 6, wouldn't a 500% decrease be a division by six?

brief explanation

PERCENT DECREASE = 100 × (original amount − new amount) / original amount

So going from 500 to 100 would be:
100 × (500 - 100) / 500
100 × 400 / 500 = 80%

A "100% decrease" of any number is zero. Any more of a decrease of a positive number results in a negative number.


Also, what do you want from Retro, in order of preference:
"Western" Zelda
Something New
Metroid 4
Starfox
The laughable crossover

Anything that isn't already a popular franchise. No Zelda, no Metroid, no Donkey Kong. I don't want 4D Mario, I don't want Retrómon, to hell with Wii Hardcore Sports. Retro's MO is taking old, dusty franchises and reinvigorating them. So I'm fine with "Wrecking Crew: Debris Field" or "Space Fever: The Second Invasion" or maaaaaybe even Star Fox, as it's been crap for a decade plus, but we've seen recently that its genre has fairly strong interest in the gaming community.

A truly new IP doesn't seem really right coming from a dev shop named "Retro", but I'll take it. I'll also take anything that Crytek isn't willing to make for the system.

…Wii Hardcore Sports doesn't sound too bad now that I think about it, but maybe that's a better task for Monster
 
The only thing that bugs me is the third-party/media conspiracy theories. Other than that I think we are pretty rational.

----

Also, what do you want from Retro, in order of preference:

"Western" Zelda

Something New

Metroid 4

Starfox

The laughable crossover

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Personally I've never cared for Starfox all that much.
I've mentioned it quite a few times, but an open world FPA along the lines of Bethseda games. It will be fun and won't contain any bugs.
 
The game seems pretty unfinished to me. Well, they still have a lot of time until release - although it's in development for a very long time..

Have they said if the PS3/X360 version will be playable? If those versions are playable, it makes me very interested in what unique Wii U features they're building. If they'll show other versions, but not the Wii U version, I will assume they have some cool stuff.

It also gives some credence to the NDA thing. Sets has pivoted on all Wii U questions about release date, and didn't include the logo on the latest trailer. This is a known Wii U game that has been widely talked about, but Sega still won't comment officially.
 
The only thing that bugs me is the third-party/media conspiracy theories. Other than that I think we are pretty rational.

----

Also, what do you want from Retro, in order of preference:

"Western" Zelda

Something New

Metroid 4

Starfox

The laughable crossover

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Personally I've never cared for Starfox all that much.

The laughable crossover simply to witness the meltdowns that would occur.

Serious answer: Metroid or Zelda. Though I'm up for anything as long as it's good.
 
Yeah the crossover needs to happen so the Nintendo fanbase mood can lighten up

I don't want Metroid Prime 4 and I can't believe Retro really wants to do another Prime iteration
 
Do you think if Goodfeel does YI 2 it won't turn out like Yoshi's Story? Only reason I worry is because Epic Yarn shares the same sort of theme (and from what I've heard, difficulty)
 
Do I have to invest anything to be a fan of a sports team besides time? No. Do I have to invest something to enjoy the product of say Nintendo? Yes.

Unless you listen to your games on an old-timey radio, I'm sure you purchased a TV to watch your sports team, and possibly paid cable to watch it if you are out of the region. And if you're in the region, and wish to see a particular sports team, I'm sure they would require some kind of fee at the gate of their stadium.

Of course, you could just watch games in a bar, that's free, I suppose. Or just happen to walk by a TV store with a game on.

As a counterexample, you don't have to financially invest in video games to enjoy them. There are plenty of free flash games and facebook games and dollar apps out there. Some even have pretty big followings, like Angry Birds.

Nintendo fans can be a special breed when it comes to the company itself. Their financial successes this generation spat in the face of those that openly bet against them and wistfully opined, almost wished, that they get out of the hardware business and make iPhone games. And the defensiveness of some of Nintendo's more extreme boosters comes directly from that constant assault, sometimes in the face of plain facts. In an ironic twist, it is this assault that creates the "sports team" effect, because it makes the fans defensive, making even some of the more curt critics in Nintendo's fandom circle the wagons along with the zealots. IT's sort of like a brother that you make fun of, but when somebody else makes fun of him, you stand to protect him.

While the sports team hare with the fans the goal of "win," Nintendo fans have a similar goal they share with Nintendo. "Survive." Right now Playstation fans are probably having this very wish right now, even if they didn't financially invest in them with a Vita or a PS3. Sony's bleeding out money such that even if all the fans bought every Vita game 10 times, it may not be enough to save their gaming business or at least some of their better studios. But I bet they would want them to survive due to memories of their first Playstation games as children. They may not want that part of their childhood thrown to the wolves, even if the company made stupid decisions.

Well that was rambly, I guess my point is that you can be a booster of something even if you have to financially invest in it. Heck I think that might even be one of the definitions of "booster." Sports fans are not better fans than video game company fans just because they can find ways to enjoy their sports teams for free.

I play video games before companies.

But I find that the people who get most up in arms about fanboys are generally assholes, so no one's as squeaky clean as they think they are.

Oh god don't I know it. The guy who comes in and rags on "fanboys" and fancies himself as "objective" is probably the most disingenuous and stock forum character that ever was.
 
Do you think if Goodfeel does YI 2 it won't turn out like Yoshi's Story? Only reason I worry is because Epic Yarn shares the same sort of theme (and from what I've heard, difficulty)

Goodfeel should create the visuals and EAD Tokyo should handle the level design and gameplay.

I loved Yoshi's Story's rubbery graphics(maybe not as classic as Yoshi's Island's aesthetics) but they dumbed it down way too much.
 
So is there a reason there have been over 500 new posts in this thread since I checked this morning or just the usual?

I did see Nintendo announced their press conference broadcasting plans, but I haven't seen anything else substantial besides the Aliens announcement.
 
So is there a reason there have been over 500 new posts in this thread since I checked this morning or just the usual?

I did see Nintendo announced their press conference broadcasting plans, but I haven't seen anything else substantial besides the Aliens announcement.
We're being exiled to Community.
 
I know how this thread will eventually make it into community and all but is it ok if we do it after e3 or at least have it stickied for a few days so that those who do not often check know where to find it? its just two weeks and it probably will become a ghost town by the end of june anyway. ALso since next thread will probably start in 24 hours, is it possible if we can have Gameplaywhore's final recap of this thread and a link to the next thread on page 200 or 400 for those with 50 replies per page.
 
I know how this thread will eventually make it into community and all but is it ok if we do it after e3 or at least have it stickied for a few days so that those who do not often check know where to find it? its just two weeks and it probably will become a ghost town by the end of june anyway. ALso since next thread will probably start in 24 hours, is it possible if we can have Gameplaywhore's final recap of this thread and a link to the next thread on page 200 or 400 for those with 50 replies per page.

As Ace said, the new thread should get posted in gaming, and will remain there for a couple of days, then tossed into community. There will be a redirect on the front page to it, and I suspect it will be well near the top of regular community threads.
 
So is there a reason there have been over 500 new posts in this thread since I checked this morning or just the usual?

I did see Nintendo announced their press conference broadcasting plans, but I haven't seen anything else substantial besides the Aliens announcement.

Here's what happened while you were away:

#18441: we dorks are moving over to Community for the next thread

#18474: Spike and MTV2 to air N-conf (and allegedly the round table, as per #18555 and #18569?? Yup, clarified in #18596)

#18612: e3.nintendo.com announces discussion with Wii U hardware producer Katsuya Eguchi on june 5th at 2:30am EDT

#18705: "Aliens: Colonial Marines" might not be playable on show floor

#18775: Re-mention of no playable show cloor Aliens: CM; also, Kmart lists Wii for $99 in Q3.


As Ace said, the new thread should get posted in gaming, and will remain there for a couple of days, then tossed into community. There will be a redirect on the front page to it, and I suspect it will be well near the top of regular community threads.

Thank you for clarifying this, by the way. edit: I am pretty amused that these threads have effectively been almost stickied for the last two months.
 
am I fool that I think Nintendo might win e3 2012? I can see Sony being serious contender to complete with. However with Microsoft, it's different story.

I predicted that Microsoft could grab us by surprise and won e3 2012, just for lolz.
 
Not to be a dick, but who is honestly expecting something from MS?

Unless they drop the bomb with teaserfootage of their first Xbox Next title. Allthough, that would kind of steal the thunder from Halo 4 I suppose. I expect cool things from Sony. The Last of Us should be amazing. I'm still convinced they'll have some Vita revival (yes I know how stupid that sounds) at E3 because I'm betting on TGS '12, but they could have some awesome stuff.

Don't you mean Sony's reVitalization plan? Get it? Get it? Huh?

Being serious; I'm looking forward to some good demoes/trailers for Bioshock Infinite, RE6, and AC3. I'm sure CoD, Halo 4, and the Last of Us will be the only major other titles coming to 360/PS3. Maybe a few minor surprises but I expect the focus to be on already anounced titles and Kinect/Vita stuff. Sony as of lately seems to have started to play their hand before E3 starts which makes things pretty underwhelming.
 
am I fool that I think Nintendo might win e3 2012? I can see Sony being serious contender to complete with. However with Microsoft, it's different story.

I predicted that Microsoft could grab us by surprise and won e3 2012, just for lolz.
At this point, it's Nintendo's to lose.
MS will.focus on casual stuff and apps.
Sony has already revealed a good deal of their stuff as usual.
so that leaves Nintendo with a new console and a handheld that should be getting a lot of good stuff.
 
am I fool that I think Nintendo might win e3 2012? I can see Sony being serious contender to complete with. However with Microsoft, it's different story.

I predicted that Microsoft could grab us by surprise and won e3 2012, just for lolz.

It would be bad if Nintendo didn't win this E3. They are blowing the lid off their new console, and they should be revealing a number of titles for the 3DS. I believe DS exploded at E3 2006 which was the DS's 3rd E3, just like this will be the 3DS's 3rd E3.

Nintendo should have A LOT of stuff. They are probably going to be spreading it out over those 3 events they have though, so maybe their press conference won't be as amazing as it could be.
 
Assuming Rosti's previous find is legitimate, that makes two, albeit weak, hints toward a Q3 release.

But then when will they announce the price? TGS?
They need time for pre-orders, etc.

I think they are pushing for manufacturers to be done by Q3 to get enough stock for a Q4 release. And they will reduce the Wii price early just to help retailers get rid of excess stock, and make space for the WiiU displays.
 
am I fool that I think Nintendo might win e3 2012? I can see Sony being serious contender to complete with. However with Microsoft, it's different story.

I predicted that Microsoft could grab us by surprise and won e3 2012, just for lolz.
I don't know. I just don't see anything from the others that can compete with the thrill of new hardware. Nintendo would have to have a pretty sizeable screwup in order to lose this one.

Likewise, I think Nintendo is out of the running for "winning" E3 next year, as MS & Sony will have excitement topics that can't be matched.

Even if Nintendo "loses" this year, as long as I personally enjoy their showing, I'll be a happy camper. :)
 
I'm betting a large part of Microsoft's presentation will be focusing on the new XBox contract plan and Halo 4, and I'm sure they've got some aces up their sleeve. I think they are just being pretty successful at keeping things close to their vest this year, which is why we have no idea what they are going to really show.

But I too think Nintendo's going to get the lion's share of the attention this year because of their next-gen game console with its tablet controller.
 
But then when will they announce the price? TGS?
They need time for pre-orders, etc.

I think they are pushing for manufacturers to be done by Q3 to get enough stock for a Q4 release. And they will reduce the Wii price early just to help retailers get rid of excess stock, and make space for the WiiU displays.

For reference:
They announced Wii pricing in mid-September in 2006 (I want to say the 14th), and then GameStop preorders took place on Friday, October 13th.
 
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