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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country
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No worries. Lots of people seem to be having a negative day today for some reason.
I'm not buying the negativity. I'm pretty realistic about what the Wii U will bring to the table, and I can hardly wait to see it all on display..
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
You misquoted somebody, as I didn't say that first statement.
You're right, though, about the graphical power.
I was more or less referring to how I think the whole generation pans out, not just the graphics capabilities of the consoles.
However, I fully expect Nintendo to continue a 5-6 year console cycle while Sony/MS take a 7-9 year cycle from this point forward. I still believe Nintendo wants to firmly place their systems halfway between the release of the other two.
This is the kind of thing i've seen people getting banned for. Just be careful what you post and write. You dont wanna get banned 1 week before E3 right?
Metroid Hunter
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This should be our hype theme.
Gets me EVERY time.
Gets me EVERY time.
bgassassin
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This coming gen IMO is going to be about the raw power difference. That would the main "bottleneck". And Nintendo's tweak phase was for optimizing other engines with the hardware so that should be one major hurdle eliminated.
It happens. Need me to take someone out? I'll give you a discount.
I also realize that differences, graphically, are harder to notice nowadays than they were during the sixth generation (especally on consoles). Even Sonic Adventure 2 Battle had a fuzzy line (Dreamcast vs GameCube) and that was during the sixth generation of consoles.No worries. Lots of people seem to be having a negative day today for some reason.
I'm not buying the negativity. I'm pretty realistic about what the Wii U will bring to the table, and I can hardly wait to see it all on display..
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
To me, the absolute biggest piece of news Nintendo could include in their E3 presentation is a statement or interview/presentation confirming UE4 running on the console.
I still have my doubts as to whether or not it will be able to, but I think that could be the best possible thing to start getting the "core" gamers back on their side.
That said, I still think Nintendo doesn't need the "core" gamers back to be successful.
I still have my doubts as to whether or not it will be able to, but I think that could be the best possible thing to start getting the "core" gamers back on their side.
That said, I still think Nintendo doesn't need the "core" gamers back to be successful.
Ugh. Lost an internship opportunity at a hospital to some rich kid (who isn't even a med student). Apparently his dad helps fund the hospital :/It happens. Need me to take someone out? I'll give you a discount.
-Pyromaniac-
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People should still be excited regardless of power gaps. Think about it for a second. You'll still be getting all the games Nintendo is known for, probably even more since they will probably aim to up their output to reduce software gaps, not only that, you'll get them on a console that provides the biggest power jump of all time from one generation to the next. Think of all the games that usually appear on Nintendo consoles, now realize they'll all return in glorious high definition looking like you've been dreaming they could look like.
The fact that it will probably get a lot more 3rd party ports than Wii (though still not all I bet) is all just the cherry on top of the initial stuff I mentioned. Think about it people. All must calm down. For people who are fans of Nintendo games, this console sounds like it'll be almost everything they could ask for.
The fact that it will probably get a lot more 3rd party ports than Wii (though still not all I bet) is all just the cherry on top of the initial stuff I mentioned. Think about it people. All must calm down. For people who are fans of Nintendo games, this console sounds like it'll be almost everything they could ask for.
What's to stop Nintendo from revealing EKG pulse grips on the controller at E3? Such a design would be much easier to implement given the new grips that were revealed in the patents. The accuracy of the EKG grips even improve with a little sweat..
Didn't Nintendo say they had one more big surprise for the controller, or was that just chalked up to being the NFC capabilities?
Here's a mockup..
Didn't Nintendo say they had one more big surprise for the controller, or was that just chalked up to being the NFC capabilities?
Here's a mockup..
Portugeezer
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Would be even better.
Wouldn't things like hard drives, blu-ray players, and using a non-Cell processor(for Sony, of course) allow Microsoft and Sony to help signicantly lower the manufacturing costs of Xbox 720 and PS4 so the price points could be below $600 ? Xbox core and Pro were originally priced at $299 and $399, right? Then Sony's prices were $499 and $599 back in 2006?
Spehornoob
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Just started playing some Wii games again, namely Zelda and Red Steel 2. I do love my swordfighting games. It got me in the mood to check this stuff out.
I haven't been following the speculation threads too much, and multiple 400 page threads make it difficult to catch up, so I hope the things I ask aren't too fucked.
Is Nintendo still encouraging to usage of the Wiimote alongside the Tablet? It would be a shame if they just completely abandoned their motion controls.
And are there any rumors of Red Steel 3 happening? RS2 had it's faults in structure and level design, but it's probably my favorite playing action game this gen. I'd love to see how they can build on it.
I haven't been following the speculation threads too much, and multiple 400 page threads make it difficult to catch up, so I hope the things I ask aren't too fucked.
Is Nintendo still encouraging to usage of the Wiimote alongside the Tablet? It would be a shame if they just completely abandoned their motion controls.
And are there any rumors of Red Steel 3 happening? RS2 had it's faults in structure and level design, but it's probably my favorite playing action game this gen. I'd love to see how they can build on it.
Smiles and Cries
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NEXT WEEK!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!
Red Steel 2 sold like crap, good luck getting a sequel.
Metroid Hunter
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Rösti;38276138 said:
Why is Skyward Sword the only 3D game to not use this theme in its trailer or commercial?
Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time 3D have all used it.
Dreamwriter
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Ooo, another contestent in the "Who will be banned next" crowd! Posting false info even as a joke...
Hot Coldman
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This is the kind of thing i've seen people getting banned for. Just be careful what you post and write. You dont wanna get banned 1 week before E3 right?
EatChildren is this thread's overseer, and I'm pretty sure he has a sense of humour (and knows whatever comes out my mouth is bollocks, as I mentioned) so I should be safe. Not that I'm gonna go prodding the sleeping beast any more...
tkscz
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Raw power difference was what last gen came to. Once optimization hits after a year or two, raw power may start to phase out. Again, as long as they tweeked it to run the engines, they should be good. UE4 is the only thing in question here. MS will now be running it and Sony is still in question. Nintendo seems to be out according to what I get from you guys.This coming gen IMO is going to be about the raw power difference. That would the main "bottleneck". And Nintendo's tweak phase was for optimizing other engines with the hardware so that should be one major hurdle eliminated.
It happens. Need me to take someone out? I'll give you a discount.
DaSorcerer7
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Mithos
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That's what I figured, able to do same things in the same way just different power behind it.
And still we have threads about people not "really" seeing a difference unless viewed side by side.
Noticeable difference is in the eyes of the beholders if what I mentioned as answer to JoshuaJSlone above is any indication.
The future is indeed gonna be interesting.
DaSorcerer7
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Another poster here claims that they got UE4 running during that tweaking phase.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'll personally fly over to LA, or teleport there, and bitch slap reggie/iwata/whoever is responsible if it doesn't run it on some level. And by bitch slap I mean cower like a little child in their presence, but I'll definitely mutter some things under my breath.
Spehornoob
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Really? I know it didn't do COD numbers by any stretch, but I remember it meeting sales expectations.
Source
Either way, yeah, I hope we do see a sequel or at least something like it on Wii U. Given some extra power behind the hood now, I would love to see some HD swordfighting games.
Or just have LucasArts rip the game off and coat it in a Star Wars skin.
No worries. Lots of people seem to be having a negative day today for some reason.
I'm not buying the negativity. I'm pretty realistic about what the Wii U will bring to the table, and I can hardly wait to see it all on display..
I feel the same. I just want to see some Nintendo games for a new console at E3, just the thought of that keeps my hype levels up. I still can't believe we're only one week away from confrences starting, it's seems like just the other day I was losing my mind about E3 being three months away.
DaSorcerer7
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Dreamwriter
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One of my dreams was shattered - my dream of Nintendo showing FFXIV 2.0 on Wii-U in their conference. Square-Enix has a complete E3 trailer for the game...that they decided not to show off during E3.
lordfroakie
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Name of movie?
DaSorcerer7
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lwilliams3
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So, going by your and bgassassin's statements:
-360/PS3
-Low-end PC (Wii U)
- Median/High-end PC (PS4)
-High-end PC (Xbox720)
and that the gap between the Wii U and the 720 can be roughly similar to the dreamcast vs the Xbox. Thanks for the info. It is nice to have bit more precise picture on how the Wii U will compare.
Basically.
EatChildren
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The most exciting thing about a high end Xbox/PlayStation next generation is that my current generation PC hardware might finally be put through its paces.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That just made me bother why they never added Leon and Panther in Assault's versus mode when they clearly have models to use. Rushed game is rushed.
Hot Coldman
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Or, you know, Scamco gonna scam.
bgassassin
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Ok, yeah that sucks.
Exactly.
Even with the max BoM estimates on the BR drive, you're still looking at PS3's hardware costing over $500 at launch before adding in anything else. Cell's costs were more in the R&D and from a component viewpoint was actually third behind the Blu-ray drive and RSX. They still could have lost around $200 per console even at a $399 price tag. They could easily spend a lot of money on the basic components.
Anytime I post a dancing gif I imagine this playing. It would be my suggestion for an E3 theme song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb3HMJKec88
The raw power difference will still last.
And remember UE4 isn't limited to running at max settings only. It's about the feature set, not the power. Like I mentioned in a previous discussion, how many UE3-based games do you see running at 1080p/60 at max on PS360? Wii U can run UE4 as long as it has the features.
Well I only have 2 options to choose in that post but I honestly think it will be bigger.
Smiles and Cries
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Glorified G
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What are the odds of Sony ending up with the same amount of ram than ms?
Xbox vs N64 situation confirmed.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Right now the rumors about Microsoft's next console seem to be pretty stupid powerful. Not 8GB of RAM stuff, but still.
That said, I'm absolutely convinced that innovation is what is going to bring these consoles popularity--NOT power. Core gamers will always go for power but the current generation brought in a whole bunch of new consumers into the video game purchasing landscape.
Shin Johnpv
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While some of this stuff sounds cool, it also sounds like a huge huge waste of ram (the ones I highlighted). Ram that I would rather see go towards the game, than to the OS. Save some of those features for next next gen, when we're talking about systems with 8 gigs of ram and have more leeway. I don't want to see 1/4 of the systems ram going to the OS personally.
-Pyromaniac-
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I thought we didn't know whether the full 500 whatever mb will be used for the OS. That would be a tad ridiculous no?
radioheadrule83
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I'll be playing
Rocky IV - Track Workout - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGuRu97G4pM
Nintendo should actually use this as the music Reggie comes out on stage to, or a sizzle reel or something.
and
John Cafferty - Hearts on Fire - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oDTNEEu3Rw
Robert Tepper - No Easy Way Out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwPb7g_BlXQ
Basically, Shiggy or Reggie can be Rocky. The late Gunpei Yokoi, Apollo Creed. Kaz Hirai and Don Mattrick are Clubber Lang and Ivan Drago.
Well of course, just look at the original Wii or what Kinect did for Xbox sales. But I still want someone to just put out a stupidly monstrous system.
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