The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt exceeds 1 MILLION pre-orders worldwide!

The game could turn out to be a massive pile of shit. Then the developer gets rewarded for creating a bad game, and it'll be too late to "vote with our wallets."

Can we please stop with this shit?

It's all on a developer to developer basis. If it was a crappy dev, yeah, you would have a point.

CD Projekt is not on that level. The possibility of the game turning out shit is zero.
 
X-posting.

Looks like they've done a lot of performance tuning in the last 2 weeks.

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I wonder if the review copies have this performance improvement patch. May be this is why they couldn't send Xbox one review copies.
 
Development costs most likely are around 20-25 million USD now after delays, rough estimate from my part btw as original dev budget was 15 million pre-delays, so do some math on that basis.

Hard to do math without actual figures of sales per platform. The profits differ from 100% (GOG.com) to something like 15% from 3rd party publisher retail console games.
 
Not really. CDPR will get the most revenue from the PC version without a doubt imo. Don't forget the following:
Revenue in retails in terms of percentage is way lower. Tipically a publisher gets 27$ out of a 60$ game.
CDPR is not publishing the retail versions, so they will get a even lower percentage of revenue from them.
Most of the PC market is digital.

There.

CDPR IS publishing the retail versions. WB and Namco only subtract marketing and distribution costs.

W ramach udzielonej licencji, Namco nabyła prawa do produkcji, dystrybucji i sprzedaży wersji pudełkowej Gry w granicach Terytorium na okres 3 (trzech) lat poczynając od premiery Gry.

Wynagrodzenie Spółki z tytułu udzielonej licencji wyliczane będzie na podstawie sumy przychodów Namco pomniejszonych o uzgodnione opłaty dystrybucyjne i koszty związane z dystrybucja i promocją Gry, z zastrzeżeniem zastosowania uzgodnionego miedzy stronami mechanizmu zawiązywania i rozwiązywania rezerw. Rozliczenie pomiędzy stronami następować będzie kwartalnie na podstawie raportów sprzedaży sporządzanych przez Namco.
 
Well played.

You and me both, I have CE/GOG/Steam version on preorder, all three.
I am not phazed with any scores though, there were plenty of people who shit on Witcher 1 and 2 and for me those are some of the finest games ever made.

Yep I have two copies of the game pre ordered myself. Once on Steam and once on PS4

Guilty as charged (pre ordered on Steam), and I'm sure it will be a fantastic game, and the 1 million pre order is great.

I am just sort of puzzled by how much the game has been disocunted even before its release though...

10% off pretty much base just for pre ordering it.

20-30% off if you arleady own Witcher 1 & 2.

Given away for free with Nvidia cards ... and so on.

For a game looking so good and with so much hype ... I don't get it (not that I have a problem paying less money for it mind you).

Its part of CD Projekt Reds consumer first strategy. Just like free DLC for their games and no DRM on any of their titles on PC. They are trying to reward those who have faith in them that are pre ordering
 
I pre ordered from Target. I lose all of 1 dollar if I decide not to buy the game. Honestly at this point the game would have to be reviewed as a total train wreck to convince me no to buy and I really don't see that happening (we'd have seen hints of it by now with all the footage they've already been showing out).

And unless the game was Fallout, I'd never actually prepay full price (and have it be non refundable) for any game. Do people who freak out about people pre ordering consider many times you aren't actually really tied to buying the game if you pre order? Target just charges you a buck. Amazon doesn't even charge your card until your order is sent (and you can cancel it anytime before). Not sure what other policies are. But if you wanted to pre order and got tied to buying the game, that was your fault.
 
The obvious one would be the FF series which you should already know about. Granted it is quite unfair to compare those but eh.

Then there's Agarest war 2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413965
21k first week in Japan alone. Not exactly sure how the western release did. Steamspy has it at 18k avg

Gonna try finding a few more.

18... but wait for that Summer sale. That shit is going to be out of control. For the most part, most niche JRPGs are going to do better on Steam. I don't know why. AAA eastern RPGs that have been released late in their life, which is just the Final Fantasy XIII series, don't explode into the millions. But they have sold hundreds of thousands on Steam. Once FFXIII-2 goes on sale it, will catch up to XIII. That would bring it to about 300,000 sales. Kind of weird how FFVII sold so well. Might have been in one of them Humble Bundles.

But man, Dark Souls with 1.8 million. Damn. Once DSII get's that Summer Sale discount, it's going to be holding hands with his older brother.
 
Can we please stop with this shit?

It's all on a developer to developer basis. If it was a crappy dev, yeah, you would have a point.

CD Projekt is not on that level. The possibility of the game turning out shit is zero.
Yep. Though admittedly all it takes is one game to lose faith.like myself with bungie
 
Thanks for the replies everyone! I pre-ordered as well and honestly I'm a lot more excited than I thought I'd be. It makes me happier to know that I should be okay jumping in without playing the previous too. Whew..
 
the only thing now i want to see is after 19 some of the pc gamer who have a monster machine play it on ultra all option on on 60 fps ( perhpas 2 980 sli or titan x ) for my part gtx 780 >> higt on stable for me
 
the only thing now i want to see is after 19 some of the pc gamer who have a monster machine play it on ultra all option on on 60 fps ( perhpas 2 980 sli or titan x ) for my part gtx 780 >> higt on stable for me

The devs have said a single GTX 980 can max it at 60 FPS @ 1080p.
 
18... but wait for that Summer sale. That shit is going to be out of control. For the most part, most niche JRPGs are going to do better on Steam. I don't know why. AAA eastern RPGs that have been released late in their life, which is just the Final Fantasy XIII series, don't explode into the millions. But they have sold hundreds of thousands on Steam. Once FFXIII-2 goes on sale it, will catch up to XIII. That would bring it to about 300,000 sales. Kind of weird how FFVII sold so well. Might have been in one of them Humble Bundles.

But man, Dark Souls with 1.8 million. Damn. Once DSII get's that Summer Sale discount, it's going to be holding hands with his older brother.
I think Cladun X2 probably sold better on the PS3 as well. 6k first week in Japan alone and surely it has more than 5k downloads on PSN with its western release and all. Steamspy has it at roughly 10k.

Still, the problem here is that console sales data are hard to procure, especially western sales so it's hard to make a comparison with some titles.
 
kinthalis the dev say with a gtx 980 you could play on ultra at 60 fps on 1080 p not max out ^^ not the same :)
 
I pre ordered from Target. I lose all of 1 dollar if I decide not to buy the game. Honestly at this point the game would have to be reviewed as a total train wreck to convince me no to buy and I really don't see that happening (we'd have seen hints of it by now with all the footage they've already been showing out).

And unless the game was Fallout, I'd never actually prepay full price (and have it be non refundable) for any game. Do people who freak out about people pre ordering consider many times you aren't actually really tied to buying the game if you pre order? Target just charges you a buck. Amazon doesn't even charge your card until your order is sent (and you can cancel it anytime before). Not sure what other policies are. But if you wanted to pre order and got tied to buying the game, that was your fault.

Generally, when talking about "preorders" and how cancerous consumer behavior it is, people mean exactly buying from sources where you pay the full price up front and maybe don't even have possibility of canceling. What you're talking about is more like reserving your copy rather, which is perfectly fine yet still kinda useless unless you live in a place where the copies can actually run out, or you want a collectors edition etc.
 
Generally, when talking about "preorders" and how cancerous consumer behavior it is, people mean exactly buying from sources where you pay the full price up front and maybe don't even have possibility of canceling. What you're talking about is more like reserving your copy rather, which is perfectly fine yet still kinda useless unless you live in a place where the copies can actually run out, or you want a collectors edition etc.

Useless except Target is giving me 5 dollars store credit to pre order it ;) (and I already have store credit with them anyways to buy it so they'd probably be where I bought it anyways). I was going to buy it day one anyways, might as well get some credit for doing so.
 
Really looking forward to it, but have held off from pre-ordering and otherwise buying the game until I get my 390X. Congrats to CD Projekt Red, though!
 
I haven't been this excited for a game since Red Dead Redemption was announced/launched. The level of freedom seems staggering. It seems they took the best parts of Witcher 1, the world and setting/immersion bits and pieces of Witcher 2's combat(looks to be a big and much needed refinement). I'm gonna miss dice poker, but am glad that boxing is no longer a QTE. W2 had way too many QTE's. If it wasn't for CDPR's dedication to telling a good/mature story I wouldn't have loved W2 as much as I did.

But you could see how the scale of the game was paired back to make room for substantially better graphics in the transition from W1 to W2. Which in my opinion took away from some of the world building. In W1 you had huge cities that had upscale, posh neighborhoods as well as ghettos full of beggars and whores. People were racist and mean and the world felt as if every single person is fighting to just survive(starvation, plague, famine all affect the populous) as well as little touches such as people moving to awnings or in doors when it starts to rain(they still did this in W2 just not to the same degree). I remember one time in W2, it started to rain and a bunch of people ran to a fire and sat around. Then and old man came up and started telling a story to all the people gathered around it. I'm hoping that W3 takes all the great elements of W1/2 and just blows them out of the water. Game simply looks incredible and I can hardly believe that the franchise that I've grow to love(I've read 2 of the books) is now launching with one of the biggest games of the year.
 
Useless except Target is giving me 5 dollars store credit to pre order it ;) (and I already have store credit with them anyways to buy it so they'd probably be where I bought it anyways). I was going to buy it day one anyways, might as well get some credit for doing so.

Fair enough, I'm not that educated on buying retail boxed games anymore and we don't have Target in my country. However, one could argue that "selling out" for a small discount or a piece of DLC to give a preorder is exactly the main problem in the industry right now.
 
Can we please stop with this?
It's all on a developer to developer basis. If it was a crappy dev, yeah, you would have a point. CD Projekt is not on that level. The possibility of the game turning out crap is zero.

I thought the Witcher 2 on 360 was crap.
Yep I said it.
The controls were clumsy, the graphics were just accessible, the 3 hours of it I played had poor & cheesy dialog & voice acting. The story took to long to get really going to keep me in considering what I felt was poor execution. Easily one of the worst used game purchases I made last gen.

For #3, I got it with my 970 for free so I will give it a spin for sure. But all the over-promise, under deliver talk recently does not have my hopes up.


kinthalis the dev say with a gtx 980 you could play on ultra at 60 fps on 1080 p not max out ^^ not the same :)

So whats the difference? Is there another setting above ultra? Some sliders go beyond ultra levels? You know something or just guessing?
 
The game could turn out to be a massive pile of shit. Then the developer gets rewarded for creating a bad game, and it'll be too late to "vote with our wallets."
No. These guys invested 5 years to build such a thing. It looks like a masterpiece. If you have a problem with this, don't pre order it.
 
Dark Souls II sold the most on Steam than on consoles?
I kinda doubt that.

Based on their reported sales and Steam spy, Steam sales account for about 1/2 of all sales. So each of the consoles definitely sold less than PC respectively, and added up they sold about the same.
 
Based on their reported sales and Steam spy, Steam sales account for about 1/2 of all sales. So each of the consoles definitely sold less than PC respectively, and added up they sold about the same.
Console sales edges out PC sales by roughly 340k based on the april info.
 
Console sales edges out PC sales by roughly 340k based on the april info.

Not really, since they include sales of the expansion. If you include those on PC, it's about 1.25 million or so vs what must be 1.25 million or so on consoles.

Either way it's close enough.
 
Not really, since they include sales of the expansion. If you include those on PC, it's about 1.25 million or so vs what must be 1.25 million or so on consoles.

Either way it's close enough.
Steamspy has both versions of DS2 at roughly 1.16M. The last reported total sales is 2.5 million. 340k is still a pretty big number but they're sorta close I guess.
 
I know people love this game series, but this many pre-orders is terrible.

I know everybody is anxious to get their hands on this... but we need to stop encouraging pre-orders. It's a bad practice.

If I don't preorder I don't receive a bonus $10 Gift Certificate from Best Buy though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Generally, on day 1, there will be reviews and gameplay footage out that isn't coming from a dev controlled environment. Unless you're getting up at 8 am and going to the local store to grab it immediately, you have access to these.

If these are out before the game launch, and you pre-order within the final few days in order to secure some kind of bonus, I think that's ok.

What I'm really against are these full week before launch bragging posts about pre-orders. I think it incentivizes a process that can and is used to manipulate sales data and hurt devs and consumers.

If it somehow ends up being horrible on day 1 then I can just return the game to Best Buy before I open. We're embargo lifts tomorrow though so I doubt we will be having any bad day 1 surprises
 
Console sales edges out PC sales by roughly 340k based on the april info.

Looking at other Bamco sales it's weird to see that Xenoverse sold so much in so little time.
2 million as of April, and of these only 260k are from PC.
Whereas Dark Souls 2 sold way more on PC, but in general sold slower than Xenoverse.
 
Looking at other Bamco sales it's weird to see that Xenoverse sold so much in so little time.
2 million as of April, and of these only 260k are from PC.
Whereas Dark Souls 2 sold way more on PC, but in general sold slower than Xenoverse.
From what I've heard Xenoverse is actually one of the better Dragon Ball games. We haven't had one of those in a while so there must be a lot of people clamoring for a good Dragon Ball game.
 
CD Projekt deserve their spot in the mainstream AAA space, as they easily are the most talented developer who can deliver a big budget wrpg. Both Bethesda and Bioware are sloppy and lacking in critical area of game design, which isn't the case for CDP imo. Their biggest weakness is related to gameplay systems and mechanics (as well as lack of money in the past), but isn't surprising since many western AAA developers are struggling with that as well. We'll see if The Witcher 3 is an improvement over 2 in term of combat and mechanics.
 
I know people love this game series, but this many pre-orders is terrible.

I know everybody is anxious to get their hands on this... but we need to stop encouraging pre-orders. It's a bad practice.

Because...? If you're paying upfront I agree, that's just giving the store a free loan for no reason. I'd never do that. The place I usually pre-order at (along with basically all other respectable retailers in Sweden) takes nothing for a pre-order until the second you get the game (or they ship it, if you've chosen home delivery), and I can cancel at any moment before that. So I'll just pre-order games I'm interested in, I have nothing to lose by doing so. Guarantees me a copy (or I can just not pick it up if I decide I don't want the game after all), along with any pre-order bonuses. Maybe those are what you dislike though?

The game could turn out to be a massive pile of shit. Then the developer gets rewarded for creating a bad game, and it'll be too late to "vote with our wallets."

If you choose to pre-order from retailers with shitty anti-consumer practices, sure.

How does it work on Steam/GOG/PSN/XBL? Can you cancel and get your money back? If not, I agree that sucks.
 
I thought the Witcher 2 on 360 was crap.
Yep I said it.
The controls were clumsy, the graphics were just accessible, the 3 hours of it I played had poor & cheesy dialog & voice acting. The story took to long to get really going to keep me in considering what I felt was poor execution. Easily one of the worst used game purchases I made last gen.

Me thinks Witcher isn't for you then really. I've had it since launch on 360, just finally started playing it at the start of may and loving it. Went from DA I to W2 and it makes Da I look worse in my eyes. I was very surprised.
 
I know people love this game series, but this many pre-orders is terrible.

I know everybody is anxious to get their hands on this... but we need to stop encouraging pre-orders. It's a bad practice.

Reviews hit tomorrow so people have plenty of time to cancel. If there is an embargo until release day then I agree
 
People obviously trust CDPR, and I don`t blame them. I usually dislike pre-orders, but fair play from them, and a PC version without DRM.
 
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