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The X-Files S10 |OT| The Truth Is Still Out There - Mondays 8/7c

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Fox Mulder

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Couldn't see the first episode until today on hulu, as I live in NC and got an hour of panthers wanking on the local news instead.

It was bleh, but hopefully it picks up. I'll still watch it and we finally got the show on bluray.
 

ibrahima

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It's interesting how they've tried to entwine events from the past fifteen years into the series, but on the other hand they've seemingly misjudged the audience's appetite for 9/11 truther conspiracy bs.

In the original series Mulder was often the cipher for an audience that was; like him, so desperate and keen to prove and understand what was going on, with Scully initially there to debunk, disprove and deflate.

In rewatching the show recently and particularly when watching this first episode I found it pretty difficult to sympathise with Mulder, leaving aside the plot holes and what-have-you that came with the episode.

Mulder is a know-it-all asshole.

I'd argue it would have made for a more interesting characterisation to see a defeated and irrelevant Mulder who (regardless of what truth he had found) had given it all up, but instead we have this loose amalgamation of Assange / Snowden etc.

I'd like to think that Chris Carter's second episode will play with this a bit and not just be a straight development of what has been laid out here, but I don't really have that much faith in him.
 

Jetman

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Yep, basically a super conspiracy. It's almost an exact retread of season 4/5 where Mulder was conviced (by good evidence) that the UFO conspiracy itself was all a ruse to get people like him who distrust the government to chase down dead ends. The difference is that in this super conspiracy there were actually no aliens at all. Now the super theory is that it started with a real alien at Roswell, but everything after that was done by humans. Except the ancient alien craft in the movie I guess?

If the plot actually goes this way I wouldn't mind too much. But the execution so far is just crap.

Hmm. Well, at least for new viewers it seemed like they are trying to shed away all of the confusing alien story baggage. I think I'm alright with that, but most of my favorite episodes were MOTW. I think the alien stuff got too crazy for me past Season 3.

This also gets back to making the aliens more mysterious with this storyline.

The only thing that needs work is the delivery and dialogue. Yikes.

While they have boned, I believe the child was artificial insemination pre boning

See, I assumed that it was something weird like that that happened in the last season or two. I think I honestly remember a bit of it, but those later seasons didn't stick with me for the most part. And the child was abducted by "aliens", right?
 

Arkos

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I really don't get the hate. It was the X Files, with a catch-up lore episode crammed into a 6 episode format. Worked perfectly for me.
 

Epcott

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Finished watching the season 9 final again, seeing CSM's face burn to the skeleton due to a rocket explosion to the face. After yesterday's reveal, it doesn't make sense. Did CSM use the super soldier tech to remain alive? If so, why not fix the hole in his throat? Or reverse his age? Why hasn't Mulder seen force ghosts anymore? I forgot they literally showed his face burn off much like nazis when seeing the contents of the Ark of Covenants.

Even more ridiculous is CSM's final ramblings of "truth" to Mulder about the 2012 invasion, how he kept Mulder alive to tell him that, and telling Fox he can die now. Which is also ridiculous since it was a lie/half truth. Why tell him anything? It's just an endless cycle of cat and mouse and possibly a dog conspiracy.

Fox and Scully on the run in 2002, then brought back to assist and absolve Fox in 2008 for that priest and missing agent incident (I want to believe), now in 2015/16 he's on to another conspiracy? Just kill Fox already if he keeps nosing around.

I'm going to watch tonights episode out of habit, but it's gotta be better than last nights.
 

thefro

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I enjoyed the episode but I only watched a few episodes of the original show back in the day and the movies and can't remember anything except the general outline of the lore. So I''m not going to have the complaints about whatever they retconned out.
 
I hope one of these episodes confirms Kersh suffered a horrible, agonizing death. Can't stand the douche.

The show hinted on a few occasions that Kersh
was only pretending to be an asshole in order to protect the lives of X-Files agents.

But yeah, he was almost too good at it lol.
 
Finished watching the season 9 final again, seeing CSM's face burn to the skeleton due to a rocket explosion to the face. After yesterday's reveal, it doesn't make sense. Did CSM use the super soldier tech to remain alive? If so, why not fix the hole in his throat? Or reverse his age? Why hasn't Mulder seen force ghosts anymore? I forgot they literally showed his face burn off much like nazis when seeing the contents of the Ark of Covenants.

Even more ridiculous is CSM's final ramblings of "truth" to Mulder about the 2012 invasion, how he kept Mulder alive to tell him that, and telling Fox he can die now. Which is also ridiculous since it was a lie/half truth. Why tell him anything? It's just an endless cycle of cat and mouse and possibly a dog conspiracy.

Fox and Scully on the run in 2002, then brought back to assist and absolve Fox in 2008 for that priest and missing agent incident (I want to believe), now in 2015/16 he's on to another conspiracy? Just kill Fox already if he keeps nosing around.

I'm going to watch tonights episode out of habit, but it's gotta be better than last nights.

They told Mulder the lie about the invasion in order to end his crusade by presenting him a truth that would overwhelm him. How can Mulder stop an alien invasion? Season 9 ends with a sense of hopelessness despite Mulder wanting to try and continue to fight.

I actually think Season 10 picks up on that well and twists things to renew Mulder's drive.
 
This episode was a retread a Season 4 finale and the season 5 premiere, in which Mulder finds out that the alien conspiracy is BS and that it is the government doing experiments.

My God it was one of the worst episodes of all the x files, and yeah the mytharc episodes are fairly weak but some where good, this was just plain goofy and almost a parady can't believe some on greenlighted this.
 

Epcott

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They told Mulder the lie about the invasion in order to end his crusade by presenting him a truth that would overwhelm him. How can Mulder stop an alien invasion? Season 9 ends with a sense of hopelessness despite Mulder wanting to try and continue to fight.

I actually think Season 10 picks up on that well and twists things to renew Mulder's drive.

Ah, I see. Would explain his lack of enthusiasm. He reminds me of Snake, right before Shadow Moses.
 
Haven't seen the chapter yet but, what's this about Mulder believing all the alien conspiracy is false? Seriously? The guy was in an alien aircraft himself and saw actual aliens erupting from abducted people's bodies firsthand, c'mon.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Good stuff. Didn't really even change the intro much.
 

Grisby

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Yep, classic start. I always love it when the sound drops out on a
man acting crazy
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Pretty sure the intro isn't going to stop making me misty-eyed.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
I feel like I'm on a nostalgia binge. My parents finally shipped me my consoles from NES-Xbox, and I put them on newly installed shelves. Some other stuff that I don't recall due to beers /Rick, and now this.
 
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