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The X-Files S10 |OT| The Truth Is Still Out There - Mondays 8/7c
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Maybe they're still upset about the video game awards he did a couple years back.
But he was the best part!
3 scenes really stuck out as terrible to me:
- the scene with Mulder and Scully on the porch, just terrible dialogue and forced catch phrases
- the scene with Mulder and the old bearded guy, constant cuts back and forth, terrible dialogue
- the scene in the house of Mulder and Jeff Winger describing the conspiracy, more crazy fast cuts back and forth and horrible dialogue.
- the scene with Mulder and Scully on the porch, just terrible dialogue and forced catch phrases
- the scene with Mulder and the old bearded guy, constant cuts back and forth, terrible dialogue
- the scene in the house of Mulder and Jeff Winger describing the conspiracy, more crazy fast cuts back and forth and horrible dialogue.
The Elite
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Yeah, those are the three that stuck out for me as well.
The porch scene had a lot of "the truth is out there" and "i want to believe" lines dropped in for no good reason.
Agreed!
I really liked McHale as Tad O'Malley. Thought he brought a bit of much needed energy to his scenes.
Ummmm, I'm pretty sure he meant McHale was the best part of the video game awards, not X-Files.
You call that cheesy/shitty performance "energy"? It was a SyFy performance.
Moff
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I didn't hate it
I loved this show as a kid, but I have only seen every episode once and I stopped sometime when the T1000 took over, so I am not a super fan and I don't really care that they seem to "retcon" everything now.
I wonder if they did that just so the real aliens can come back at the end of the first season.
I am surprised that they are picking up the MOTW concept again, because I think that is extremely outdated and hurts all modern shows that still apply it (Hannibal for instance). I would have welcomed a whole season of mythology episodes, especially when there are only 6.
but given the quality of this first episode, and because all my favourite X files episodes are MOTW episodes, I guess it's not such a bad idea in this case.
I loved this show as a kid, but I have only seen every episode once and I stopped sometime when the T1000 took over, so I am not a super fan and I don't really care that they seem to "retcon" everything now.
I wonder if they did that just so the real aliens can come back at the end of the first season.
I am surprised that they are picking up the MOTW concept again, because I think that is extremely outdated and hurts all modern shows that still apply it (Hannibal for instance). I would have welcomed a whole season of mythology episodes, especially when there are only 6.
but given the quality of this first episode, and because all my favourite X files episodes are MOTW episodes, I guess it's not such a bad idea in this case.
It really depends on the show and what they do with it. MOTW episodes are easily the best thing about Supernatural, for example (when it was still good).
Beer Monkey
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When was the last time Mulder's memory was tampered with? For example, does he remember rescuing Scully from a giant spaceship that flew away in Antartica at the end of the first film?
Setzer
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I agree. I find all the negative comments about the episode amusing.
I expected to hear someone yell "Cut!" during the entirety of the porch scene. Duchovny did not give a fuuuuck.
Ummmm, I'm pretty sure I was agreeing with him that McHale was the best part of the video game awards, then I hit enter twice and wrote about liking McHale on The X-Files.
You do realize it's possible to express two separate thoughts in a single post, right?
Cheesy =/= lack of energy.
As I mentioned before, I am hearing multiple reports that episode 2 is better and 3 is a LOT better (no reviews for 4-6 yet). I would suggest people to have a little patience since X-Files is a huge show to get started again. It definitely looks like it's going to see huge improvements fast.
Moff
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Miles Quaritch
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Did...did they just retcon the black oil/blood?
What the fuck. What madness is this.
What the fuck. What madness is this.
I would've thrown an "also" in there somewhere, but whatever.
Energy /= Good, or passable performance. Energy is wasted when you can't deliver a single piece of believable dialogue. It's not entirely his fault though, his character and written dialogue were embarrassing to begin with.
The Elite
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With how clunky the dialogue in that scene was. I don't blame him.
That black oil/blood probably still exists.
They dealt with the idea that the aliens were ever planning an invasion. This episode suggests that was a construct setup by another conspiracy of people who were planning on taking over the world using alien technology.
eyeball_kid
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The porch scene really was terrible. Duchovny looked like he was about to break up laughing. No one of any acting caliber could've saved that bad dialogue. It's odd because of the rest of the episode was written pretty well. Your second scene was just so-so, not terrible, and the third scene I'd disagree with. I thought it worked well, felt like a classic X-Files moment, and I saw a lot of people on Twitter respond positively to it.
The Elite
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How has the twitter responded to this episode in generally?
I also hope an 11th season will be picked up, so Vince Gilligan can get a shot at a future episode
This needs to happen...GOAT episodes.
the truth was a lie.
The Elite
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Specifically the episode "The Truth", which really hit hard with all the stuff about the invasion including the invasion date - December 21st, 2012. The whole thing seems to have been a clever ruse to leave Mulder thinking that the invasion was inevitable and there was nothing that could be done to stop it. That's how the series ended, with a sense of hopelessness despite the fact that Mulder wouldn't give up.
Now with the revival it's revealed that what he was led to believe in "The Truth" was in fact a clever lie to try and crush Mulder's will and hunt so that he didn't figure out what was actually true, that there was no alien invasion and that was an actual cover-up of a conspiracy of men who were plotting to take over the world using alien technology.
Like I mentioned earlier, it's a great way to work around the December 21st, 2012 invasion date they ended the series with.
As clunky as the episode was, the added mythology was sound. In fact, I think everything makes a lot more sense now.
eyeball_kid
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Ha I don't know, I didn't do any sentiment analysis on #xfiles, but I think the people I follow mostly liked it. Though perhaps this is also a case of being glad it wasn't too jarring with our memories and nostalgia of the show.
The only plot point I really had a problem with was Scully riding in the limo drinking champagne with O'Malley. It seemed really out-of-character for her. It was an odd scene that seemed stuffed into the script in order to increase the tension between Scully and Mulder.
Extra Sauce
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I also hope an 11th season will be picked up, so Vince Gilligan can get a shot at a future episode
This needs to happen...GOAT episodes.
There is nothing I want more.
The Elite
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The X-Files Premiere Was Terrible And I Still Loved It (Kotaku Warning)
Not too far off how I fee though I didn't feel it was terrible.
Not too far off how I fee though I didn't feel it was terrible.
Miss.Selfdestruct
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Thanks for the props, OP Great first post to kick this off!
Impressions on first viewing: LOVED it, despite a couple bits. Like how quick Mulder was to believe O'Malley without looking into his past, associations, and Scully's blood work. Dialog was not great either...damn you, Carter >_< Maybe it's biased hate towards cancer man, but given that all of this shit goes deep into secret gov. groups. They could have well killed him off and still continue their secret dealings.
Not sure if it's McHale's acting, or the character's nature. He seemed to come off scummy as if trying to take advantage of Mulder/Scully's background and expertise.
Will be watching it again to grasp it better. That said, that intro segue into the theme/opening credits was amazing.
Great first post to kick this off!Impressions on first viewing: LOVED it, despite a couple bits. Like how quick Mulder was to believe O'Malley without looking into his past, associations, and Scully's blood work. Dialog was not great either...damn you, Carter >_< Maybe it's biased hate towards cancer man, but given that all of this shit goes deep into secret gov. groups. They could have well killed him off and still continue their secret dealings.
Not sure if it's McHale's acting, or the character's nature. He seemed to come off scummy as if trying to take advantage of Mulder/Scully's background and expertise.
Will be watching it again to grasp it better. That said, that intro segue into the theme/opening credits was amazing.
I love both type of episodes, mytharc and MOTW. I'd argue the heart of the show lies in the common theme of questioning authority and what is believed to be real. If it wasn't for the mytharc scooping Mulder into a quest to learn what happened to his sister. He might not have been so willing to pursue all sorts of crazy natural events happening all the time under our noses, and sometimes man made.
sobaka770
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Too fast. Way too fast.
We got 3-4 different governments conspiracies listed here, UFOs, impregnations with human or alien babies, spy drones, ultrasound or whatever bombs, Alien Vehicle replicas, alien DNA etc etc. - stahp plz.
I sincerely hope that it was a one-off episode to quickly kickstart the run. X-Files is not about rushing things, the best episodes were relatively slow, there was reason for it all and a good amount of explanation.
This is like an antithesis of what X-Files used to be, the score is there, characters seem to fit, but it's all fast-paced exposition and zero explanation. Well at least MotW episodes should provide some relief.
We got 3-4 different governments conspiracies listed here, UFOs, impregnations with human or alien babies, spy drones, ultrasound or whatever bombs, Alien Vehicle replicas, alien DNA etc etc. - stahp plz.
I sincerely hope that it was a one-off episode to quickly kickstart the run. X-Files is not about rushing things, the best episodes were relatively slow, there was reason for it all and a good amount of explanation.
For example, when Skully tests for Sveta DNA they don't even bother to explain what is being tested/retested, why is genome alien etc.
This is like an antithesis of what X-Files used to be, the score is there, characters seem to fit, but it's all fast-paced exposition and zero explanation. Well at least MotW episodes should provide some relief.
It was pretty shaky (the dialogue and quick cuts others mentioned were by far the biggest problem), but as far as being an intro to a new season of X-Files it was fine. The only problem is that it's 1/6th of the season, which makes it feel more jarring. Gillian and David were great together though, and despite the character I think Joel did a fine job (even if it was hard to not hear the voice of Jeff Winger with those speeches).
Nazgul_Hunter
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The black oil being aggressive even as far back as 35k years ago sort of contradicts the alien kumbaya theory quite a bit, doesn't it?
VistraNorrez
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The mythology evolved constantly in the first 9 seasons. It was pretty exciting up until the 5th season and the movie. After that it got so convoluted and contradictory. For 9 seasons they had to keep surprising people with it and that's not really possible to do and have it make sense. Not to mention they had to deal with Duchovney checking out. It's a mess and nothing can really fix it. They kind of just have to roll with it. The season 10 premiere did an okay job of bringing it to the modern day. That is to say it's continuing what the series established these mythology episodes as. I wouldn't be surprised if this year's finale flips things back over themselves.
The Elite
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The black oil and the Grey/shape shifting aliens are separate entities. Don't forget the Grey/shape shifters actually sealed their eyes/mouths so they wouldn't be infected by the black oil and fought against the colonists who were already infected.
I still think the black oil will be revealed to be a threat to Earth but that the greys/shapeshifters were not part of a conspiracy to invade Earth, and they never were. There was no invasion. The black oil never seemed like the type of entity that needed to invade with ships.
Remember, the Greys/shapeshifters were the same race and they weren't necessarily ever the bad guys without being infected by the black oil.
See: "Grey"
Also, don't take everything that O'Malley and Mulder believe in this episode to be gospel. Curveballs are par for the course on The X-Files.
streetsahead123
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All you guys bitching about McHale, fucking Daniel Day Lewis couldn't wring a good performance out of that script
Yeah McHale had to contend with that script and comatose Duchovny
The Elite
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Duchovny is the new Harrison Ford. Need to prop him up with a stick.
I thought he played his part pretty well. He does lowlifes really well
Can Crusher
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Don't understand why they went with such a cartoony tone and look. I was expecting something more subdued.
The Elite
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It looked exactly like The X-Files.
I was surprised, as bad some of that dialogue was, that they still got the tone and feel just right.
The Elite
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It seems to be what we can expect.
Though I think at least one of the MOTW episodes will tie into the Mytharc.
What?
There was nothing cartoony about the look. It was dark and shadowy like it has always been. That was the one thing that was consistent.
Extra Sauce
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I'm fucking pumped for tonight's episode.
*waits*
*waits*
The Elite
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Yup. I'm hyped.
My Struggle is just another episode in the bucket. Looking forward to the first official episode of the re-opened X-Files.
When/what was the last proper Mulder/Scully X-Files episode with them properly in the FBI doing their thing before shit went to shit?
Yeah, a bad episode stands out when your run is short. Still, can't wait for tonight.
There's a difference between playing someone with depression (however flimsy its introduction is) and popping a handful of valium before stepping on set.
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