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The X-Files S10 |OT| The Truth Is Still Out There - Mondays 8/7c
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Extra Sauce
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I was also skeptical of Fox letting all the writers take on directing duties but Wong did a fantastic job. The Founder's Mutation had some real visual flair to it. Hopefully the Morgans have done an equally good job.
I apologize if I'm derailing the thread, but I just saw this post for anyone who has issues with the season 8 blu-ray. Fox will be issuing replacements with an expected replacement in March. I'm glad to hear it, as I was holding off on buying it until then, and Season 8 is one of my favorites.
http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/X-Files-Season-8/21942
http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/X-Files-Season-8/21942
rockman zx
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I think the same, classic X-Files, I hope the remaining episode are this good.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Holy shit.
Episode 2 ranks up among the best they've ever done.
It was compelling, old school, well written, well acted (like night and day compared to the premiere), and advanced almost every single current and previous story arc as well as character development.
Skinner's new no nonsense attitude is great.
Episode 2 ranks up among the best they've ever done.
It was compelling, old school, well written, well acted (like night and day compared to the premiere), and advanced almost every single current and previous story arc as well as character development.
Skinner's new no nonsense attitude is great.
I think the "twist" in the mythology would be more compelling if the simply said the syndicate or like groups around the world were successful in stopping colonization, but in the process became bent on power and control using the stolen alien technology. Leaves known material intact and still allows the new setup.
Can even still retcon the grays as benevolent and the oil as malevolent if you want.
Basically man became so successful at adapting the alien tech, hybridization, and global conspircy in an effort to fight colonization, that it became its own conquering force. The power corrupted.
Second ep was great and much more compelling than the first. Liked it a lot.
Can even still retcon the grays as benevolent and the oil as malevolent if you want.
Basically man became so successful at adapting the alien tech, hybridization, and global conspircy in an effort to fight colonization, that it became its own conquering force. The power corrupted.
Second ep was great and much more compelling than the first. Liked it a lot.
Extra Sauce
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Yep. I don't understand why Carter didn't do that instead.
Still hoping that My Struggle 2: Electric Boogaloo will reveal that was the case all along.
Frankly it would have been more relevant as a commentary on current events wrt domestic surveillance, drones, proxy wars, and terrorism than the 9/11 trutherism bullshit we got.
So far I have to say I find the new series a bit disappointing.
The first episode seemed to be just exposition and nothing else.
Episode two was a little better but I still think the show is moving way too fast. Nothing gets time to breathe.
Duchovny just seems extremely disinterested, it just does not seem like his heart is in it anymore. I just don't get why he agreed to return to the show if he really does not want to. (I hope it's just not money?)
In fact he almost does nothing for the entire second episode, Scully does almost all the talking, he's just there mostly silent.
The eager funny Mulder from before, the one who actually showed interest and cared about things is nowhere to be seen.
Gillian Anderson does a great job though and seems like she actually cares about things.
I just wish they'd slow the show down to give the characters time to breathe and have some moments to show us what they're actually like now.
I just recently watched the first two episodes of the show and the characters of Mulder and Scully are just as much in the focus as the actual mysteries. You learn things about them at the same time you learn about the cases.
Hope the next episodes improve as I want the show to be good.
The first episode seemed to be just exposition and nothing else.
Episode two was a little better but I still think the show is moving way too fast. Nothing gets time to breathe.
Duchovny just seems extremely disinterested, it just does not seem like his heart is in it anymore. I just don't get why he agreed to return to the show if he really does not want to. (I hope it's just not money?)
In fact he almost does nothing for the entire second episode, Scully does almost all the talking, he's just there mostly silent.
The eager funny Mulder from before, the one who actually showed interest and cared about things is nowhere to be seen.
Gillian Anderson does a great job though and seems like she actually cares about things.
I just wish they'd slow the show down to give the characters time to breathe and have some moments to show us what they're actually like now.
I just recently watched the first two episodes of the show and the characters of Mulder and Scully are just as much in the focus as the actual mysteries. You learn things about them at the same time you learn about the cases.
Hope the next episodes improve as I want the show to be good.
keep in mind mulder is supposed to be suffering from endogenous depression, which includes symptoms like:
-persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness
-loss of interest in activities or hobbies that were once pleasurable
-fatigue
-lack of motivation
It's apparently the reason he and scully separated. He was already living as an isolated shut-in in the second movie and their relationship was strained, presumably things have only gotten worse since then. As he says near the beginning of EP1, "my life has become a punch-line." 20 years of work with nothing to show for it, he's no closer to "the truth" he's been seeking all these years. On top of that, he lost his entire family, he lost scully, and he lost his son. It's understandable he'd be not exactly chipper.
He showed a bit of his old self in episode 2 IMO, even throwing out a dry one-liner--"you can't unsee that"--regarding the doctors eyeballs popping out of his head. we'll see how things progress as the mini-series continues.
The more I sit and think about Episode 2, the more I really love it. You don't see the personal side of the characters too often, and getting into their heads about the son they lost/might have raised was pretty beautiful and was also a reflection of the characters themselves - Scully about education/helping him when he would be hurt (and reaching a point when she's unable to). Mulder about imagination and dreaming of space (until his worst nightmare comes true/happens again)
It was a very subtle character piece that kind of confuses you at first, simply because the show never really did that or took such an approach, but really has me thinking on it well after the fact. That's what I really wanted this new version of the show to be: familiar but willing to shake things up in smaller ways like that.
It was a very subtle character piece that kind of confuses you at first, simply because the show never really did that or took such an approach, but really has me thinking on it well after the fact. That's what I really wanted this new version of the show to be: familiar but willing to shake things up in smaller ways like that.
Extra Sauce
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Apparently Mulder mentions colonization in passing during the second episode.
Could it be that something happens between the premiere and what was meant to be episode five that leads Mulder to believe in the colonization angle again?
Could it be that something happens between the premiere and what was meant to be episode five that leads Mulder to believe in the colonization angle again?
The Elite
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Just found an article about this.
From Chris Carter:
There is definitely something up. Had no idea they were even switched. That explains a lot.
Just finished watching the first episode. Considering the universal panning I've seen it get online, I wasn't expecting to enjoy it as much as I did. I guess if you were expecting it to be a standalone episode with its own mystery to be presented and solved, then it was dreadful, but as a way to set up the rest of the season while explaining the circumstances of the past fourteen years...it was alright. A bit heavy on the overwhelming conspiracy, but it was fine. I'm presuming the last mythology episode will clean it all up and address the things left hanging.
Should get around to watching the second episode tomorrow. I've heard enough good things to anticipate it.
Should get around to watching the second episode tomorrow. I've heard enough good things to anticipate it.
Extra Sauce
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That article mentions that some lines of dialogue had to be excised from (episode title)
"Home Again"
Would be neat to get original cuts on the blu-ray.
HP_Wuvcraft
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oh fuck.
I agree with this angle. Just piling another double/triple/quadruple blind conspiracy on top of the existing mythology is just stupid and strains the existing canon and mythos even more than it already is. Giving this a straight-forward reasoning like this would be best IMO.
I rewatched Episode 1 (haven't watched 2 yet), and it really annoys me in Mulder's meeting with the new "Deep Throat" (or whatever we're calling the Doctor guy from the Roswell flashbacks) when the Doctor said, "Rival aliens setting each other on fire and other such nonsense." I was literally screaming at the screen THE SYNDICATE SAW IT, MULDER SAW IT, IT HAPPENED, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!
i thought his "you don't like cats" coupled with the look he gave her, were pretty good.
HP_Wuvcraft
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The doctor is clearly biased, they wrote that well. I actually liked his character.
I think that line was very specifically written to be that specific. To reference The Reds directly.
Yeah, I really like where they are going with Mulder.
I'm not sure I follow you here. Explain?
Also, finally watched the second episode, and OMG it really was incredible. Engaging, tightly scripted, and looked incredible. It wasn't so much a MOTW story though as it was a tangent into the conspiracy I suppose - but in a far more engaging way than E1 managed.
I also felt this episode really showed off the good work Gillian Anderson is doing. Anyone who's seen her on shows promoting this knows she's not as reserved as she's playing Scully - but even some in this thread have said she sounded old in the show first episode. Well, the way she played Scully at the start of the William "dream" as a much younger, hopeful version of the character is like straight out of somewhere in S4 - S6 in terms of the voice, the cadence, and the body language. It makes the choices being made for modern day Scully's attitude and overall mannerisms more pronounced - she really is deeply saddened and reserved and more cynical than early Scully (this is even compared to S9 Scully). The contrast really stood out for me here and really drove home how consciously the way modern Scully is being characterized must be.
Both Anderson an Duchovony's makeup and hair were much better in this episode as well. Anderson, in particular, looked much better and even the wig looked much better as well.
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HP_Wuvcraft
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I'm saying he's a pawn and that line of dialogue was specifically fed to make sure Mulder know what he was saying.
Finally caught episode 2 and yeah, I gotta say it was a good one.
I'm not sure it was intentional, but it was interesting neither of them pictured each other when thinking of William. I think Mulder's fear/dream was incredibly heartbreaking, and actually did more for me in terms of seeing him down and out than My Struggle did.
Damn fine job and damn fine TV.
I'm not sure it was intentional, but it was interesting neither of them pictured each other when thinking of William. I think Mulder's fear/dream was incredibly heartbreaking, and actually did more for me in terms of seeing him down and out than My Struggle did.
Damn fine job and damn fine TV.
User 479360
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I deleted the first episode off of my PVR, because I like to keep it at 0 things recorded as much as possible. However, I regret that and want to watch it again, plus have it since it's The X-Files. I may buy the Blu-rays, but I never watch Blu-rays to begin with.
So, I'm recording it tomorrow when it airs on Space, and have kept episode 2. I want to rewatch both.
EDIT: The "Would you think any less of me as a man if I told you that I'm getting excited?" line from the pig pen part of Home is hilarious. Weird, but hilarious.
Also, if the Peacock family boobytrapped their entire home as Mulder said, why wouldn't they do so with their mom's bedroom door?
So, I'm recording it tomorrow when it airs on Space, and have kept episode 2. I want to rewatch both.
EDIT: The "Would you think any less of me as a man if I told you that I'm getting excited?" line from the pig pen part of Home is hilarious. Weird, but hilarious.
Also, if the Peacock family boobytrapped their entire home as Mulder said, why wouldn't they do so with their mom's bedroom door?
PreFire
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I used to watch Xfiles here and there, caught s couple movies too. But have they always had people like Sylar?
I've never seen "powers" being used in this show lol
It would have been awesome seeing Skully trying to explain what just happened, logically. Unless she's fully accepted the world is full of shit she couldn't even imagine. She was always the super skeptic
Anyway, good episode. Better than the first
I've never seen "powers" being used in this show lol
It would have been awesome seeing Skully trying to explain what just happened, logically. Unless she's fully accepted the world is full of shit she couldn't even imagine. She was always the super skeptic
Anyway, good episode. Better than the first
Dragon1893
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Watched episode 2 last night. It was pretty good. I was surprised by how graphic certain scenes were, especially the one where she cuts open her belly. Scenes involving pregnant women or children really bother me (yes, I watch Game of Thrones lol).
Anyway, I hope the other episodes maintain the quality of this one.
Anyway, I hope the other episodes maintain the quality of this one.
TheSadRanger
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Yeah, there was an old episode where Tony Shalhoub could disintegrate people with his shadow and one where Giovanni Ribisi could control lightning.... That's only naming a few.
It's been around since the beginning.
User 479360
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Two more good episodes. I need to watch the Shalhoub one again. DPO was masterclass, though.
The early reviews almost unanimously reported that Ep 3 is the best of the first 3 episodes.
What episode is
Home Again
Edit: says it was episode 2 so it sounds like it traded places with founders mutation.
MulderYuffie
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Can't wait then hype!!!
TheSadRanger
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Yeah, what was the one where there was this preacher in a prison, and at the beginning of the episode you see these prisoners in a industrial workshop and the preacher starts giving his sermon and one of the inmates cuts off his hands or something without realizing.
Was that Millennium or X-Files?
What's up with crazy mulder in episode 1? I was expecting them to reveal that it was all a joke, because surely they wouldn't have Mulder suddenly do a 180 and start spouting all that weird shit that contradicts everything he believed like an exposition machine set to 11? It just felt so weird and I was sitting there waiting for David Duchovny to burst out laughing and go "can't believe you bought that sculls!"
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Watched Triangle this morning. Another really solid episode. Very dark, though, so it didn't pop in HD.
Scully was fantastic in that one, and Duchovny did a good job too.
Got part-way into Memento Mori before getting too tired.
I don't remember it very well, but then again my memory sucks. So I couldn't tell you. It sounds vaguely familiar.
Scully was fantastic in that one, and Duchovny did a good job too.
Got part-way into Memento Mori before getting too tired.
I don't remember it very well, but then again my memory sucks. So I couldn't tell you. It sounds vaguely familiar.
That would be "Orison", episode #7 from Season 7. So X-Files, of course.
Should I be worried that I know that without even checking....? ^^
Even the title gets my seal of approval: "Mulder and Scully Meet the Were-Monster"
I'm going to assume (and secretly) hope "Home Again" is not a sequel to the episode of my nightmares. Seeing that old woman under the bed still gives me chills.
TheSadRanger
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So I was wondering, if this 6 episode season keeps doing crazy ratings like it has been.
Then there's no way Fox can walk away from that, right? Barring that the characters are not alive at the end of it, would Duchovny and Anderson be down for doing some more?
I think Gillian Anderson would be down for it and maybe Duchovny would be down for 1 or 2 more seasons if Fox throws some stupid money at him.
edit: Damn looking back, X-Files pulled off some crazy ass ratings in the late 90's
Then there's no way Fox can walk away from that, right? Barring that the characters are not alive at the end of it, would Duchovny and Anderson be down for doing some more?
I think Gillian Anderson would be down for it and maybe Duchovny would be down for 1 or 2 more seasons if Fox throws some stupid money at him.
edit: Damn looking back, X-Files pulled off some crazy ass ratings in the late 90's
HP_Wuvcraft
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It is.
Extra Sauce
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Wasn't Millenium bad under Chris Carter's tutelage? I keep hearing that the Morgan/Wong season 2 was amazing, and that Carter ruined things when he took back the reins for season 3...
Alex Connolly
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I think the problem was that season two under Morgan and Wong was an absolute rollercoaster of eschatological mythology, and season three returned to the original formula from the first season.
That, and Emma Hollis couldn't hold a candle to Lara Means.
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Saved episode 1 again last night. Going to keep it on my PVR for a bit with the others if my delete-crazed self will let me. I plan to watch it again sometime, but am much more interested in a re-watch of Founder's Mutation.
You're preaching to the choir.
You're preaching to the choir.
VistraNorrez
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I think the only way to bring back Frank Black is on the X-Files. If they do more seasons they should make Frank a recurring character. I'd love to see him, and Jordan, again.
obin_gam
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New clip from Ep3, with Kumailj Nanjiani http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHpYR-3gnUg
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