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The X-Files S10 |OT| The Truth Is Still Out There - Mondays 8/7c

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Episode was great.

Yup, the tone was a bit all over the place but I enjoyed it, the Mulder tripping, the strong mood at the end, and Mulder and Scully's interactions with the 2 new agents.

I especially liked Miller thanks to when he called out those two "agents" trying to get him and Scully out of the room.

Firestorm makes a good FBI agent.

Loved the bit I mentioned above, and him catching them off-guard trying to grab their picture with his phone camera.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
Let's not act like the X-Files doesn't have its own moments of garbage that could easily rival the first half of Twin Peaks season2
My point is that we have nine years of experience with The X-Files, while we really only have one season of Twin Peaks. A show which may or may not have had some good ideas (TP), can't quite compare to a long running series that has had as many highs, as lows. :p

As a fan of this show, I'm going to be pickier about these six episodes than the nine we'll get for Peaks. I haven't been as invested in it for a decade or more.
 

icespide

Banned
finally got a chance to watch this. I thought the episode overall was okay but it took a nose dive with the final conversations with Baby Mulder and Baby Scully, and then Prime Mulder and Prime Scully. The dialogue ugh

From the preview
it seemed like Agent Einstein is in the finale which leads me to suspect that her and Miller would have a decent role in any potential future seasons. Not sure how I feel about this
 
finally got a chance to watch this. I thought the episode overall was okay but it took a nose dive with the final conversations with Baby Mulder and Baby Scully, and then Prime Mulder and Prime Scully. The dialogue ugh

From the preview
it seemed like Agent Einstein is in the finale which leads me to suspect that her and Miller would have a decent role in any potential future seasons. Not sure how I feel about this

They would probably be recurring characters just like The Lone Gunmen were.

I think they are fun.
 

TheSeks

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Best part of last nights episode pretty summed up in a few gifs.

Damn you Chris Carter to hell.

YASSSSSSSSSSSSS.

David Duchovny really looks like he's phoning it in here.

He kinda is. It's such a short cut that his lack of reaction/face isn't really noticable in the live show instead of this .gif.

However Mitch Peligi going along with it is hilarious. Frohike and Skinner both being into that Badonkadonk.
 

Rodin

Member
Amazing episode, this mini series has been killing it so far and hopefully the finale won't disappoint.

And by the way, what the fuck is up with the hating on imdb? Every single episode has a way lower score than it deserves (and they all dropped a lot, i think My struggle went from like 9.4 to 8.2 lol), the 7.3 to this one is just laughable by that website standard.

Edit: lol at the gifs, Skinner is hilarious
 
I'd give it a 3.5/5, the extra half-star obviously because of the Tom Waits song during the drug trip.

I think everyone gets what Carter was going for, because he bludgeoned all of us with a hammer. I was really hoping the setup would be that everyone thought the Muslims committed the bombing, but instead it was some spontaneous combustion guy or something. But no, it was just a terrorist episode with a hamfisted message.

I really thought Mulder and Scully were going to kiss at the end though.

Yeah so far the Carter episodes have ... uh ... lacked subtlety, to say the least. That's really the major gripe I have with ep 1 and Monday's ep. Mulder trippin' was funny and the best part of the episode.

I hope the finale isn't more of Carter bashing us over the head, but so far I haven't seen any signs this season that it won't be, unfortunately.
 
I just got to Home Again and really, really liked it. With something less campy maybe I can appreciate the episode before more when I revisit this season. Not sure how the response was here (I'll have to go back through the thread later) but that's what I was hoping for when the series came back. Give me a serious monster of the week with flashlights in an abandoned warehouse every day. Back in the day is now Scully!

Now to Episode 5.
 

BkMogul

Member
So far, Founders Mutation and Home Again have been the only solid episodes thus far. As a long time fan, I feel I'm overly critical of one of my favorite shows, but I'm very lukewarm on this limited series as a a whole.
 
Episode 5 was just, OK. I thought they would subvert the 'muslim terrorist' trope, but no. The leader even had a fake beard, it was super obvious and lame.

Mulder tripping is always worth the price of admission though.

So far, Founders Mutation and Home Again have been the only solid episodes thus far. As a long time fan, I feel I'm overly critical of one of my favorite shows, but I'm very lukewarm on this limited series as a a whole.

I agree with this, but seems like a lot of people here are happy with all of it. If that leads to them getting to do more I'm all for it though.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
reading this thread, its very clear to me that the X-Files appeal was and continues to be very very broad. I remember the X-Files having all kinds of different episodes, from goofy monster of the weeks like the were lizard, to horror inspired monster of the weeks like home again to mytharc. Not all episodes need to appeal to everyone. However, IMO nothing this season has been as bad as when Mulder and Scully were trapped in a video game, or some of the other really bad MOTW episodes.

I am curious though if there is a cross section of people complaining about things not getting resolved in the X-Files this season and fans of Fringe. I found Fringe to overly explain everything, there was never anything left to wonder at least not for very long. Pretty much everything in that show can be boiled down to either Walter Bishop and or William Bell either separately or in conjunction fucking something up that Fringe division investigates later.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Holy shit. This episode was literally ass. At least we got Man-lizard out of it the season.

Edit: And badass Skinner with beard. Can't forget about him.
 
As a return with 6 episodes I'm very disappointed overall. I was really wanting them to explore the mythology storyline more. I just don't see the point of random episodes after all this time.

If they are planning on doing more then that is fine. I'll be patient.

Gillian is a fine wine.
 

wetwired

Member
While I wouldn't say the episode was bad it seemed all over the place, the men in suits coming in and trying to take over seemed like it was going somewhere but went nowhere.

The kid who blew up wasn't responsible cause he had cold feet? does that even matter, we don't need to see that character redeemed.

The tripping scene went for too long and gunmen seemed to be only window dressing, disappointing after all these years, it's be nice if they had some lines.

The script just seemed half baked, it was a placebo? but that was never redressed other than "weird huh?"

I was kinda expecting more out of this season with only 6 episodes in it I thought we'd get tighter more polished episodes.
 

Jackpot

Banned
I'm struggling to find the point of this season. I thought with the recent emphasis on serialised tv series instead of procedural and the amount of lore x-files has that it'd focus on tying up the Colonists plot. Maybe they discussed this before airing and I missed it.

It's reminding me a lot of Red Dwarf X. Bits are good and trigger the nostalgia sense but it also slightly sours the memory by showing how old and worn out the franchise is. For most of these episodes, if they'd been aired during seasons 5 and 6 no one would even remember them. Apart from maybe the lizard man one for its meta-commentary.
 
I'm struggling to find the point of this season. I thought with the recent emphasis on serialised tv series instead of procedural and the amount of lore x-files has that it'd focus on tying up the Colonists plot. Maybe they discussed this before airing and I missed it.

It's reminding me a lot of Red Dwarf X. Bits are good and trigger the nostalgia sense but it also slightly sours the memory by showing how old and worn out the franchise is. For most of these episodes, if they'd been aired during seasons 5 and 6 no one would even remember them. Apart from maybe the lizard man one for its meta-commentary.

There isn't really supposed to be a point. It's just more episodes of The X-Files. Pretty much exactly what I wanted.
 

jerry113

Banned
I'm struggling to find the point of this season. I thought with the recent emphasis on serialised tv series instead of procedural and the amount of lore x-files has that it'd focus on tying up the Colonists plot. Maybe they discussed this before airing and I missed it.

It's reminding me a lot of Red Dwarf X. Bits are good and trigger the nostalgia sense but it also slightly sours the memory by showing how old and worn out the franchise is. For most of these episodes, if they'd been aired during seasons 5 and 6 no one would even remember them. Apart from maybe the lizard man one for its meta-commentary.

i think they should go full procedural, screw the mythology
 
Watching Monday's episode now but I seriously can't believe Carter went with Agent Einstein... The episode seems very hamfisted so far, with the overacting of Ambrose as "new-Scully" and the plot setup.

If they are trying to sell Miller and Einstein, we'll need more time. Miller doesn't have the charisma/believability that Mulder did early on.
 
I cannot believe the number of people who are actually entertaining the notion that the Mulder and Scully clones were introduced as potential replacements.

There is no way. They are the Poochie of The X-Files universe.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
I think it's funny how much the mythology episodes get shit on but so many are clamoring for them
I'm reminded of the Simpsons episode where they're focus testing itchy & scratchy and the producer or whatever is like "you don't know what you want, cause your kids and your stupid."

Some people like MOTW episodes some like mytharc, doesn't seem everyone likes them both, and that's ok.
 
I've enjoyed every episode so far for there sheer diversity in tone and subject. This episode seemed to cross over to spiritual with more human morality undertones. I expected the twist to be bomber was not bomber but I liked that it wasn't realized and it was actually commentary on the extreme polarity of society and worship of "angry gods". I liked how dopplegangers were thrown in to add more complexity but they seemed under utilized. I have a feeling they will weave back in for longer story arc if we get more. At this point I think that more episodes are guaranteed.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
I've enjoyed every episode so far for there sheer diversity in tone and subject. This episode seemed to cross over to spiritual with more human morality undertones. I expected the twist to be bomber was not bomber but I liked that it wasn't realized and it was actually commentary on the extreme polarity of society and worship of "angry gods". I liked how dopplegangers were thrown in to add more complexity but they seemed under utilized. I have a feeling they will weave back in for longer story arc if we get more. At this point I think that more episodes are guaranteed.

i agree with you. I would really like the people upset about the muslim terrorist actually expand on their reasoning and or respond after they've be quoting, by myself and others. I thought it had a very good message, and very accurate one too. Just this past year there was an art festival in Texas where participants were asked to draw Mohamed, and there were also the charlie hebdo attacks. like what exactly happened in the episode wasn't plausible?

and you want to talk about stereotypes, i saw more people in cowboy hats in this episode than i do in an entire year living in Texas.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
When did they die I don't remember

End of their spinoff. So around 1999/2000.

I've enjoyed every episode so far for there sheer diversity in tone and subject. This episode seemed to cross over to spiritual with more human morality undertones. I expected the twist to be bomber was not bomber but I liked that it wasn't realized and it was actually commentary on the extreme polarity of society and worship of "angry gods". I liked how dopplegangers were thrown in to add more complexity but they seemed under utilized. I have a feeling they will weave back in for longer story arc if we get more. At this point I think that more episodes are guaranteed.


Actually, I see it more as him going with it and then regretting it in death to where only Mulder is able to cryptically find it out with his mother at his death bed.
 

Mifune

Mehmber
I've been thinking about this episode since Monday. I think it's thematically very interesting but the execution isn't totally there. That's okay, though; I can think of no other show that would dream of throwing terrorism and a hallucinatory line dance sequence in a blender.

The drug trip was fun if a bit too long. The doppelgangers didn't really add much. But there's some fascinating threads here that I think will reward repeat viewings. I love the idea of hard reality (for a TV drama) smashing headlong into pure silliness but can see how people found it offensive. At the same time, is it any more offensive than the terrorism dramas that mine the same stereotypical material for cheap thrills?

It's a great big mess of an episode but a spirited one. Chris Carter has about a million ideas here and only a handful of them coalesce. The logic of the case is nonexistent (how exactly did Mulder end up communicating with the bomber?) but I found it more emotionally resonant than all of those tearful Scully scenes from last week. It's a really odd duck, and I don't know if I'll ever completely wrap my head around it.

This has been a notably ambitious batch of episodes, and while I think Darin Morgan's is the only truly great one, they have all exhibited that spark of creativity and madness that was missing from the show when it originally went off the air. The writers seem excited about coming up with new X-Files and that enthusiasm shows in the final product. It's as weird, audacious, and maddeningly uneven as ever.
 

GHG

Member
I've watched all 5 episodes with my wife and I have to say this is shit. This is not the X-files we remember, this is just awful.

What on earth have they done to the X-files?
 

Real Hero

Member
I've watched all 5 episodes with my wife and I have to say this is shit. This is not the X-files we remember, this is just awful.

What on earth have they done to the X-files?

Well X files has been shit for a while, go back to the last movie, and the last series of the show, it stopped being good before it ever ended. I think series 9 just wrecked the show really and nobody involved is really capable of getting it back to greatness.
 

SeanC

Member
I've watched all 5 episodes with my wife and I have to say this is shit. This is not the X-files we remember, this is just awful.

What on earth have they done to the X-files?

When was the last time you saw the show?

The Carter episodes are hoky and usually full of themselves, big and strong ideas but doesn't know how to fully handle it. The monster of the week/standalone episodes are the most memorable with the most enjoyable chemistry of the character. Anderson is the best actor, Duchovny does the silly shit. The mythology is all over the map. Sounds like X-Files to me.

The show always had issues. I'm really enjoying the comeback because they literally didn't change (and learn) anything.
 

Ophiuchus

Banned
For the third time, I started to watch The X-files when they announced countdown (I finished early).And I must say , I am loving it so far.This mini season had its ups and downs but it seems that after all these years they are still having fun.The level of seriousness may be gone for some fans but I really don't believe that.

We will see what they are up to after the finale.And the fifth episode was hilarious.
 

.JayZii

Banned
I've been enjoying season 10 so far. I was petty lukewarm on episode 5, though. The tone of the episode never felt quite right, but there were fun bits in it.

I rewatched "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" last night, too. I love that episode.
 

neoism

Member
I've watched all 5 episodes with my wife and I have to say this is shit. This is not the X-files we remember, this is just awful.

What on earth have they done to the X-files?

When was the last time you saw the show?

The Carter episodes are hoky and usually full of themselves, big and strong ideas but doesn't know how to fully handle it. The monster of the week/standalone episodes are the most memorable with the most enjoyable chemistry of the character. Anderson is the best actor, Duchovny does the silly shit. The mythology is all over the map. Sounds like X-Files to me.

The show always had issues. I'm really enjoying the comeback because they literally didn't change (and learn) anything.

I agree ep three was fun and hilarious but still not as good as the funny old ones I've re-watched the whole series these past 3 weeks... seasons 1-6 were the best with season 6 having some great episodes but moving the show away from vancuvor changed it for the worst. Im not completely done with it but season 9 is really a chore to get through.. even with Gillian.. I still have like 4 mythos episodes left but definitely the best xfiles were s1-s5 with season 6 being different but good but not really xfiles.
 

mm04

Member
I've been happy with the revival overall. All we've seen so far are 5 episodes. And these are from writers who haven't been in the groove of writing X-Files in a long ass time. It's not realistic to think they could recreate the magic of some of the greatest episodes of all time with a show that's had over 200 episodes with such a short order. Really, I just hoped they could make episodes which were reminiscent of what made the X-Files great and I feel they've done it. They may not all be good, but it feels like the X-Files and it's more of the X-Files. If it opens the door to even more X-Files, that's a success to me. Even if it doesn't, it was awesome to see Mulder and Scully together on screen again as FBI agents.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
The revival has been mixed for me so far, but I haven't come out of it hating that it's come back. It's been said before in this thread again and again, but I'm just happy to see Mulder and Scully back and I'll gladly take mediocre X-Files with them any day.

Even if it's more "Spaced" crap.
 

jerry113

Banned
I've been happy with the revival overall. All we've seen so far are 5 episodes. And these are from writers who haven't been in the groove of writing X-Files in a long ass time. It's not realistic to think they could recreate the magic of some of the greatest episodes of all time with a show that's had over 200 episodes with such a short order. Really, I just hoped they could make episodes which were reminiscent of what made the X-Files great and I feel they've done it. They may not all be good, but it feels like the X-Files and it's more of the X-Files. If it opens the door to even more X-Files, that's a success to me. Even if it doesn't, it was awesome to see Mulder and Scully together on screen again as FBI agents.

also they decided to task each writers to direct their own episodes which is strange too.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
When did they die I don't remember
End of their spinoff. So around 1999/2000.
Technically, they resolved it in season 9 of The X-files. Like Millennium, they used X-files to end a cancelled show. lol

Speaking of, watching the finale of X-files season 9, it's such tremendous bullshit that they retconned the alien colonization stuff. I wish I could tell my younger self ti just ignore all the mythology entirely.
 

SeanC

Member
I agree ep three was fun and hilarious but still not as good as the funny old ones I've re-watched the whole series these past 3 weeks... seasons 1-6 were the best with season 6 having some great episodes but moving the show away from vancuvor changed it for the worst. Im not completely done with it but season 9 is really a chore to get through.. even with Gillian.. I still have like 4 mythos episodes left but definitely the best xfiles were s1-s5 with season 6 being different but good but not really xfiles.

You can probably skip most of Season 9. Though there are a couple of Doggett eps that were pretty good. It was certainly a chore and you can tell they struggled to write around not having Duchovny. Even the premiere he's conveniently masked behind a shower door.

1-6 were the best, a lot because of atmosphere which was really lost later on, like you said. Although I think Season 1 being great is debatable. It had good myth set up, it was simpler back then before Carter kept digging deeper and making it convoluted, but it also had some of the worst episodes of the entire run. "Space" especially. You can tell the writers must have just saw Apollo 13 and wanted to do their take on it, and it's so, so bad. Season 2 is kind of the same way, I've always thought. Those seasons also took themselves way more seriously I found. The humor and chemistry just wasn't there yet to really do it well.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
also they decided to task each writers to direct their own episodes which is strange too.
I thought that was a neat opportunity for them, even if they didn't exactly nail it, they at the least had the most control over how the story would be told (for the most part).
 

Mifune

Mehmber
I thought that was a neat opportunity for them, even if they didn't exactly nail it, they at the least had the most control over how the story would be told (for the most part).

And Carter, Morgan, and Wong are all seasoned directors so it's not that strange. I'd love to see Bowman or Nutter return, though.
 
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