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The XXII Sochi Winter Olympic Games / Ski And Skate Against Hate

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Blader

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Hanyu is a beast. Poor Chan, people shitting on him left and right :lol

Does anyone know if the US is still on track to win a medal every day?
 
I feel so bad for Chan. That really sucks. But I'm happy for him for Silver.

And what the hell at that comment by Rochette? Wow. That seemed a little abrasive.
 

isuzu

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I don't speak French so I guess Rochette was going for a bit of word-play, but when you're a public figure posting on your public Twitter account and the guy you're talking about doesn't speak French either (I'm assuming Chan doesn't)... it's not the greatest move.
 
Especially bad considering it was Rochette during the Vancouver Olympics who had her mother die and the entire country (world) supported her through that & she ended up with a bronze medal. What a cunty comment by her.
 

Megasoum

Banned
I don't speak French so I guess Rochette was going for a bit of word-play, but when you're a public figure posting on your public Twitter account and the guy you're talking about doesn't speak French either (I'm assuming Chan doesn't)... it's not the greatest move.

Actually Patrick Chan speaks a surprisingly good french... but yeah anyway, poor choice of words from Rochette.
 

yyzjohn

Banned
All Chan had to do was not fall. He fell three times.

This is why it's so disappointing. Been fucking depressed all afternoon now. I mean had he skated amazing and come from behind to grab the silver you'd feel good about it, but he knew the guy before him was shit and all he had to do was skate clean to win. Fuck, we'll never have a Canadian man win Olympic skating gold. :(
 

Kak.efes

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Chan should personally apologize to each and every Canadian for his poor performance out there today. It should be a coast to coast thing, sort of like Terry Fox, only instead of running, he should be going door to door apologizing for bringing us shame with his silver medal.
 

yyzjohn

Banned
Chan should personally apologize to each and every Canadian for his poor performance out there today. It should be a coast to coast thing, sort of like Terry Fox, only instead of running, he should be going door to door apologizing for bringing us shame with his silver medal.

It's not shame, it's just disappointing that the gold was within reach and he's skated the free program WAY better before so it's not like it was something he couldn't do. Sigh, silver is good I guess.


Fuck you Orser.
 

Mattilaus

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Chan should personally apologize to each and every Canadian for his poor performance out there today. It should be a coast to coast thing, sort of like Terry Fox, only instead of running, he should be going door to door apologizing for bringing us shame with his silver medal.

Yes apologize to the entire country because you tried your hardest and got second in the world representing your country. He should be so ashamed.....
 

Pedrito

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Fun fact:

With Ligetty, Pikus-Pace, Berger and the norwegian men not winning today, it appears as if Canada's record of 14 gold medals is safe for these games. Projections now put Norway and the US below 14. USA's record of 37 total medals set in Vancouver also won't be threatened.
 

freshair

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U.S. Speedskating asked Olympic and skating officials late Friday night for the option to switch the new Under Armour suits that some skaters think are causing the team's long-track athletes to underperform at these Games, the organization's executive director Ted Morris said.

The request doesn't guarantee that American skaters will be wearing different suits when competition resumes on Saturday afternoon, should the International Skating Union and the International Olympic Committee sign off.

The team is currently split into two groups: those who want to stick with the current model and those who would revert to a suit they used while racking up victories throughout the fall. The alternate suit is also made by Under Armour.

Morris expects a ruling within hours.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304703804579383010048360726
 

sphinx

the piano man
damn, had I known this thread was talking about figure skating and that you guys would largely ignore the figure skating thread, I'd be posting here from the first day!!

I will be here for the Gold/Lipnistkaia/Wagner/Kim/Asada showdown

the men FAILED SO FUCKING HARD, bunch of idiots, no wonder the sport isn't popular. If the gold medal falls twice on his ass, then people will sure wonder what the hell is going on with the sport.

you don't see gold olympic winners in gymnastics falling on their faces or displaying this lack of character.
 

sphinx

the piano man
considering these morons crash and burn in their first jumping passes at the beginning of their routines, I am not sure the duration of the programs play any role..
 

freshair

Member
Annnnd approved!

Starting tomorrow the US Speed Skating team will return to the previous blue (?) suits where they swept the podium at ISU World Cup
 

lenovox1

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Reading about Chen choking is one thing, but watching it during NBC's Primetime coverage is a whole 'nother.

I'm sure he's tired of this figure skating thing and the pressure of the Olympics, but I really hope he gives it at least one more go in Korea.
 

zroid

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Wait what? Was this during CBC News Toronto?

Yeeah, I think so. It was right before the primetime coverage.

Reading about Chen choking is one thing, but watching it during NBC's Primetime coverage is a whole 'nother.

I'm sure he's tired of this figure skating thing and the pressure of the Olympics, but I really hope he gives it at least one more go in Korea.

He did a good interview with Ron MacLean this evening. No talk about whether he'd keep going another four years, but it seemed like he was in a pretty good place mentally. As far as I can tell, he definitely seems to still love skating, and was both happy and disappointed with the result. I doubt this is the last we'll see of him.
 
damn, had I known this thread was talking about figure skating and that you guys would largely ignore the figure skating thread, I'd be posting here from the first day!!

I will be here for the Gold/Lipnistkaia/Wagner/Kim/Asada showdown

the men FAILED SO FUCKING HARD, bunch of idiots, no wonder the sport isn't popular. If the gold medal falls twice on his ass, then people will sure wonder what the hell is going on with the sport.

you don't see gold olympic winners in gymnastics falling on their faces or displaying this lack of character.
This exactly. How the hell does the gold medal winner land on his ass twice? Bullshit judging.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Well you don't see gymnastics events lasting as long as the free skate either, to be fair.

Honestly, the sum total of the four floor routines probably isn't far off...but regardless, Chan and Hanyu both crashed on their first few jumping passes. Chan's first was flawless and then it was just like a giant fuckfest.

I don't agree that nobody deserved the medal or whatever though.
 
Yeah, I'm gonna need someone to explain how judging figure skating works since even if people fuck up completely they still place higher than the ones that are just as technical, and instead only have 1 quad in their program instead of 2. It's dumb...

And rofl at that top 2, what a joke
 
Yeah, I'm gonna need someone to explain how judging figure skating works since even if people fuck up completely they still place higher than the ones that are just as technical, and instead only have 1 quad in their program instead of 2. It's dumb...

And rofl at that top 2, what a joke
I would guess they want athletes to push the sport forward technically, so they reward very difficult and risky jumps, even those that are partially botched.
 

lenovox1

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Yeah, I'm gonna need someone to explain how judging figure skating works since even if people fuck up completely they still place higher than the ones that are just as technical, and instead only have 1 quad in their program instead of 2. It's dumb...

And rofl at that top 2, what a joke

That's how good their short programs were. They could fuck up and still medal. Nobody could touch them unless they out and out didn't do any of their elements.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Yeah, I'm gonna need someone to explain how judging figure skating works since even if people fuck up completely they still place higher than the ones that are just as technical, and instead only have 1 quad in their program instead of 2. It's dumb...

And rofl at that top 2, what a joke

I'm only a casual observer but the new system is actually a lot easier to understand and a lot more transparent than the old one.

The old system used to give judges a lot of leeway to score things how they saw on two components-- technical merit and presentation-- on a scale of out 6.

The new system assigns point values to all the maneuvers and the elements of every program as well as adding a "grade of execution" system that allows the judges to mark up or mark down an element for being performed well or performed poorly.

Basically the old system allowed major fudgery, but I think it feels like there was a lot more room for magic to happen, but I think that might just be my perspective. Sarah Hughes in 2002 is probably one of my favorite Olympic long programs, but I'm not sure how technically accomplished it was compared to something Yuna Kim is doing now...I know she was the first female to do two triple triple combinations in the Olympics.

Now some skaters you know don't even have a shot from the opening blocks because they don't have the component points in their score. A quad is worth 8 points, a triple is worth 5 points, etc.

Still, it is easy to see how judges judged after...the scores are released and everything is broken down very technically.

I can't help but wonder though if the emphasis on jumping passes has reduced the appreciation of artistry in the competition.
 

zroid

Banned
That's how good their short programs were. They could fuck up and still medal. Nobody could touch them unless they out and out didn't do any of their elements.

Their free skate scores were still higher than any of the other skaters though, it wasn't just because of the great short programs. Fact is, Chan's and Hanyu's routines were dramatically more complex than their competitors from a technical standpoint, so despite some falls and deductions, they won the day on the backs of their difficult components.
 
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