There is no Epstein Client List
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Nocty
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I had always questioned his true motivations, but I supose now it's clear. He's clearly a psyop of some kind.
Ironbunny
Member
He is a man on mushrooms and drugs. He brings on interesting and also really stupid or full on conspirasy conversations. He says hes not easy to fool yet is shown on many instances to believe full on bullshit when it happens to align with hes thinking. Which he himself actually recognizes at times. He is also a vehicle (like Lex) to push conversation certain way. Be it accidental or not.
BattleScar
Member
He's too fucking stupid.
Dirk Benedict
Member
After finding This OUT. I firmly believe we're in the "Buckle Up" Era.
Shadowplay1979
Member
I dont get it, Rogan sounds really sarcastic here...what are people upset about. Hes pretty much saying if you dont believe theres fuckery here then you must have some kind of iron will...not that you are right
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MidGenRefresh
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Print it out and place on Pamela's Bondi desk. Problem solved.
MMaRsu
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Its the UFO coverup all over again
Toons
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Hes a tool that extremely untrustworthy individuals can use to push their insane ideas and actually be heard instead of laughed out of the room. Hes a very useful idiot
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
*sits here wondering how my comment about Representative Jamie Raskin became about Joe Rogan*
FUBARx89
Member
Lol. There's conspiracy theories, then there's been obviously lied to and fed shit.
Massive difference.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
It is pretty clear that Epstein was a CIA asset.
Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
Not sure if you're being serious or not.
You don't think its a "conspiracy" to suppress this list, or at least squash any strong data about who went to the island?
Conspiracies are absolutely real things. Just not EVERY (or even more than a small minority) are true.
Rogan statement reads that he doesn't believe Bondi. He's not pro-'no list'.
Shifty1897
Member
I legitimately didn't believe many conspiracy theories (except that the FBI couldn't figure out whose drugs were in the white house during the Biden administration, lol). Now I watched a full on cover up of some heinous sex crimes and a lot of suspicious suicides and I'm having to reevaluate a lot of shit suddenly.
thief183
Member
I'd make a list of ppl that might want to kill me to protect a big secret, just as a personal insurance...
Acti
Member
This.
MMaRsu
Member
Uhh yeah ofcourse. Bunch of whistleblowers lesd to nothing
Major Insano
Member
So I'm just gonna be a c*nt and say this, but...If this really was a deep state intelligence, espionage, blackmail, election interference, operation..?
Wouldn't that also make the people on the 'client list' victims(potential) of this as well?
Wouldn't that also make the people on the 'client list' victims(potential) of this as well?
"I slipped and fell and my penis went into a teenaged girl!"
Not exactly a sympathetic witness.
Had Epstein been entrapping folks with predatory loans, using muscle to intimidate families, or stuff like that, perhaps you might have a case. But seems like he just threw parties, invited lots of famous, powerful, or intellectual people, and then had alcohol and drugs and young women/girls on hand so nature took its course. Then this became a dark secret spread around to attract others that wanted the forbidden fruit.
Though Epstein also just spent money and lavished attention on folks desperate for it, I'm sure a fair number of folks in his company were just getting wined and dined for traditional influence, not subject to the darker stuff. More of a Playboy Mansion atmosphere, perhaps.
SlyDoughnut
Neo Member
No. Epstein was a Mosad operation to blackmail mainly US politicians and wealthy to continue the funding.
Democrats are complicit but no where near to the same extent as Trump. Patel's 20 year younger wife is ex Israeli intelligence. Trump was friends with Trump, who was president and controlled Congress when Epstein could have spoken out and was assassinated.
Trump despite contrary is the first president to strike Iran on Netayahu's instruction and even talks about him as 'the best man'. And we've not even mentioned the genocide that Trump is ok with.
Major Insano
Member
So you don't think he was recording stuff for blackmailing or manipulating poweful clients of his?
I think this goes a lot deeper than lavish parties for rich pervs.
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I've little doubt he was. But claiming blackmail that you were filmed nailing a girl YOU WERE TOLD was underage....yikes.
I doubt Epstein was trafficking underage girls because that's all he could get. Plenty of 18+ prostitutes he could have supplied. What he was doing was DELIBERATELY offering adolescent girls for sex, THAT was the blackmail. I doubt guys like Gates would get all riled up if it was just sex with other women, that shit happens all the time and no one really cares. The attraction to his island, and the repeat visits, was for the teen girls, not just to get laid. Heidi Fleiss could get you that.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
For those interested in this case, not sure if anyone has heard about John David Norman. Worth reading up on if you have interest in true crime cases. Not a lot of people are familiar with his story. Basically he was a guy in the 70s and even into the 80s and after who ran underage sex trafficking, prostitution, and pornography operations. He's distribute underage porn, he'd coerce kids into prostitution, sell them off to clients, he'd molest and rape kids, all kinds of gross shit. The guy was a total monster and a pervert. They didn't take these types of crimes as seriously back then so he was in and out of prison for continually reoffending until like the late 2000's where he finally got incarcerated for good.
Anyway when they raided his home in the 70s, they found tens of thousands of index cards of clients on them. A police lieutenant said at the time he had over 50,000 clients and some of whom were government employees and notable public figures. And that list was never made public. The state dept commandeered the index cards and ended up destroying them, so to this day we don't know who was on the list.
He also had this gross newsletter that he sent out to people featuring underage teen prostitutes and that newsletter apparently had thousands of clients and made hundreds of thousands per year.
To this day it's not know just how far his porn and trafficking operation went. His kid porn newsletter was in part financed by a dude named Frank Shelden who operated his own child porn ring out of North Fox Island Michigan where he'd bring children out there and film them doing sex stuff with clients. Both were ongoing around the same general time, 76, 77ish. And THAT pornography ring is suspected to have possibly been involved in the Oakland County Michigan Child Serial Killer case.
Anyway when they raided his home in the 70s, they found tens of thousands of index cards of clients on them. A police lieutenant said at the time he had over 50,000 clients and some of whom were government employees and notable public figures. And that list was never made public. The state dept commandeered the index cards and ended up destroying them, so to this day we don't know who was on the list.
He also had this gross newsletter that he sent out to people featuring underage teen prostitutes and that newsletter apparently had thousands of clients and made hundreds of thousands per year.
To this day it's not know just how far his porn and trafficking operation went. His kid porn newsletter was in part financed by a dude named Frank Shelden who operated his own child porn ring out of North Fox Island Michigan where he'd bring children out there and film them doing sex stuff with clients. Both were ongoing around the same general time, 76, 77ish. And THAT pornography ring is suspected to have possibly been involved in the Oakland County Michigan Child Serial Killer case.
Donald mac Ronald
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Forget Epstein's list. I think you just might make evillores list.
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Draugoth
Gold Member
Probably not, otherwise he wouldn't be pushing for it - Elon musk isn't exactly a mastermind who could somehow make his name on the lost disappear
Still a massive douche.
Come On Tars
Member
I could have believed Epstein was just another rich degenerate, not musad or anything, no evil villain blackmail list. I could believe he was a pedo and the CP was just generic and not personal recordings. The lore got so big everyone started misnomering a "list" when it was just a file., even the FBI.
But the high ups talked so much game about it. So frustrating.
But the high ups talked so much game about it. So frustrating.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
saw this on twitter and it is wrong. Patel's gf works for an NGO that was started by an ex-Israeli intelligence person. The gf herself is not israeli or mossad. plenty of people work for PragerU and are not mossad.
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ricardo_sousa11
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I start to wonder, if you make 1B$ you have to become a p3do.
It seems a big % of that group really like fondling with kids.
Its a sad sad world when they really want to protect sexual predators, the lowest of the low. This is such a sh*tshow
It seems a big % of that group really like fondling with kids.
Its a sad sad world when they really want to protect sexual predators, the lowest of the low. This is such a sh*tshow
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
If the entire country found out that every big wig and president over the past 30 years was banging kids, I feel like society would be in such shock that it would break down somehow. Like all trust in any higher power would be eviscerated in an instant. There'd probably be some sort of major revolt against the system and everything would need to be reset.
Or maybe I've just been watching too many movies.
Or maybe I've just been watching too many movies.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Enlightenedfool
Neo Member
This, although Mossad and CIA work in tandem on some stuff.
Walliwallipaloo
Member
This is awful. This whole situation is absolutely awful. It feels woefully inadequate to describe it as such, but that's probably all I can get away with on a public forum.
Guess I will say this: this is proof that there are no "good guys" in government. As if proof were needed.
Guess I will say this: this is proof that there are no "good guys" in government. As if proof were needed.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Well, that was faster than I thought. r/conservative is now filled with comments that say "Epstein probably killed himself".
Browsing Daily Wire has an article on front page by Ben Shapiro saying the white house is telling the truth
ctrl + F "Epstein" on Foxnews.com or Newsmax.com comes up with 0 results.
props to https://www.theamericanconservative.com/ for still having some integrity
Disgraceful
Browsing Daily Wire has an article on front page by Ben Shapiro saying the white house is telling the truth
ctrl + F "Epstein" on Foxnews.com or Newsmax.com comes up with 0 results.
props to https://www.theamericanconservative.com/ for still having some integrity
Disgraceful
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Grildon Tundy
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kevboard
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Can′t you see, they are twisting our reality
Never practice what they preach
I'm tellin' you, we′re witnessing the mother of all lies
Powerwhores and presidents
Breaking down our confidence
Fooled again, we′re witnessing the mother of all lies
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Ben Shapiro is often willing to oppose obviously nonsense talking points from team R, so it's interesting to see him fully on board with the gaslighting campaign.
Right-leaning independent media are willing to call it out though e.g., Asmon, who has not stopped making videos on it:
Bari Weiss's centrist Free Press, typically willing to be critical of both parties and tackling many controversial subjects, returns zero coverage…
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It's becoming more telling who's been using this story for political expedience and power, and who were actually taking a stand on principle.
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