There is no Epstein Client List

So back when Trump was a democrat, he and Epstein were best of buds. Interesting.

Either way, he is still doing better than the alternative.
 
All of the right wing nutjobs on X are now backing Trump and saying Epstein was a Mossad agent controlled by Israel and that Trump is being blackmailed / set up

lmao
 
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Wait... Trump is having the DOJ flag anytime his name comes up in the Grand Jury files on Epstein and not just victims but other persons are having their names redacted?
 
Epstein again.... snoozefest. He arranged hookers for the ultra rich. He got what was coming to him either way.
Well duh. What people want is for the ultra rich who were paying to have sex with underage girls to also get what they should have coming to them.
 
But if he did it's when he was a Democrat …
His sycophants would unironically defend him on that point. Almost as if he were a born-again republican, shedding all of his democratic evil or something.
 
They are a bit like Xbox fanboys
What do you mean ? One reached the top position after years of promising stuff to his believers that the coming years will be great again and has chills that repeats what's he's saying and put a positive spin to everything negative about him or his actions despite evidence showing otherwise, it's not like the same situation
 
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What do you mean ? One reached the top position after years of promising stuff to his believers that the coming years will be great again and has chills that repeats what's he's saying and put a positive spin to everything negative about him or his actions despite evidence showing otherwise, it's not like the same situation

It's a joke
 
All of the right wing nutjobs on X are now backing Trump and saying Epstein was a Mossad agent controlled by Israel and that Trump is being blackmailed / set up

lmao

That theory (and not out of the realm of possibility given what we know about Epstein and Maxwell) is being backed by more than just right wing nutjobs. The Young Turks (Bernie bros) have been saying that for years.
 
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I live in Scandinavia, in the happiest country in the world. Socialism works just fine for us.

No, it's not. What's working for you is free enterprise/capitalism.

The Danish prime minister himself said Denmark was a market economy and specifically said Sanders was wrong. Sweden has more billionaires per capita than the US.

This is worse than debating flat earthers so I'll just move on, sorry for derailing the thread.
 
It's all fake, but if it's not it's a hoax, but if it's not Trump wasn't involved, but if he is he didn't do anything wrong, but if he did it's when he was a Democrat …
There is no worse blind person than the one who does not want to see reality.

No Hay peor ciego el que no quiera ver la realidad
 
No, it's not. What's working for you is free enterprise/capitalism.

The Danish prime minister himself said Denmark was a market economy and specifically said Sanders was wrong. Sweden has more billionaires per capita than the US.

This is worse than debating flat earthers so I'll just move on, sorry for derailing the thread.
Yeah yeah yeah, free enterprise + social safety net. I'm all for that. You think you know my system better than me?

Sanders is not anti-free enterprise. But this is indeed a derail, so moving on...
 
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Unironically should. Surprised Hillary hasn't jumped on that yet. It'd force it to either admit he's lying or pay up
At the same time, it would shine a light on her husband being on the list

The Clintons dont want this attention just for a gotcha moment
 
No, it's not. What's working for you is free enterprise/capitalism.

The Danish prime minister himself said Denmark was a market economy and specifically said Sanders was wrong. Sweden has more billionaires per capita than the US.

This is worse than debating flat earthers so I'll just move on, sorry for derailing the thread.
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Didn't he got sued for racial discrimination in housing ?

And 13 years later he still got the award. Maybe he grew and changed? Or standard practices up to the 70's in New York City were finally removed? I suspect Trump, if he had any direct input into the 'policy', saw it purely as a business decision to appeal to the white renter that was his primary client and would be less likely to rent in a building with "colored folk" or whatever they were called at the time. Was it wrong? Sure. Was it based around a hatred of black people? Unlikely.

Hell, Carnival Cruise lines is doing a somewhat similar thing RIGHT NOW. Not to mention a whole lotta "this is a space where white people aren't welcome" stuff. Racially based decisions are extremely common.
 
And 13 years later he still got the award. Maybe he grew and changed?

Donald Trump has done many many things. But change is not one if them.

We know this the people he's been close with, even the people he's been intimate with. Theyve all told the same story and described the same person. He doesn't change. Why would he?
 
Pam Bondi, last week, said that they recovered thousands of hours of videos. hard to believe this is just videos of victims + epstein and no one else. I mean she's clearly unreliable - it's hard to believe thousands of hours of videos were recovered and if that much were discovered, even more doubtful that it's all sex material - but then she is the attorney general.
If the video is of folks in common areas partying or just coming and going out of doors, then it would be slanderous to release it and say "hey look, there is Clinton standing there with his arms tightly wrapped around a 16 year old girl while they listen to Coldplay" and then imply they banged afterwards. Just hugging a girl (with her consent) isn't illegal. But unless she is willing to testify that yes, they did bang, then the implication that the hug led to sex would be VERY difficult to prove in court, despite how obvious it may seem to us. And the government should ONLY be in the business of taking things to court, not trying to destroy the public character of people with implied 'evidence', IMHO.

If its actual sex, the it would also be difficult to release because the girl is underage, all that stuff would have to be redacted or masked in which case it becomes a video of a guy having sex with a pixelated blob that could be anyone/thing. This was the Hunter Biden photo defense, that the girls (aka his niece) were underage so they couldn't be released, yet if that were true then isn't that illegal? Then....crickets. It's also how a lot of starlets get their sex tapes scrubbed, but claiming they were underage at the time it was made.
 
Donald Trump has done many many things. But change is not one if them.

We know this the people he's been close with, even the people he's been intimate with. Theyve all told the same story and described the same person. He doesn't change. Why would he?
Huh? He was a lifelong Democrat and now he's the face of the Republican party. Which one changed, the party or him? EVERYONE changes, especially from what they were in their 20's versus 70's.
 
WTF is that list for real?


Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Dennis Hastert served as Republican Speaker of the House (so, 3rd in line for the Presidency) for all 8 years of W. Bush's two terms. He also sexually molested at least 5 boys when he was a HS wrestling coach, all of them underage with the youngest victim being 14. The victims only finally saw justice when Hastert was caught by the FBI trying to falsify payments for hush money.

Donald Trump walked into Miss Teen USA change rooms with girls as young as 14 changing. 26 women have spoken publicly about Trump's pattern of sexual assault. In 2023, he was found legally liable for the rape of E. Jean Carroll by unanimous jury.

Anton "Tony" Lazzaro, a former Republican donor and political strategist from Minnesota, was convicted in March 2023 on federal charges of sex trafficking minors. He was found guilty of conspiring to recruit and pay teenage girls, aged 15 and 16, for sex between May and December 2020. In August 2023, Lazzaro was sentenced to 21 years in prison for these offenses.Prior to his arrest, Lazzaro was a prominent figure in Minnesota Republican circles, donating over $270,000 to various Republican campaigns and political committees. His indictment led to significant turmoil within the Minnesota Republican Party, culminating in the resignation of then-party chair Jennifer

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No doubt in my mind he raped kids

I get what you mean but it's still a bit of a leap without hard evidence. I am no way a Donald Trump fan but as hard as it is to doubt victims on these kind of matter, I do think the weight of the accusation is so heavy their needs to be something of hard proof for me to completely stand behind it.
Look we all know he's a scumbag with questionable actions but he's not an open rapist so I do give him the benefit of doubt
 
B-b-b-but Biden and Clinton...
Let's not pretend these were the good guys or something. They are all bananas. You had millions of people thinking Joe Biden was sharp and fit enough to run the office. Every fool could see his brain was fried 5 years ago. I think the democrats are as much to blame for the mess the USA is in.
 
I have some bad news

odds are you are right. Yet, time has to tell the full story. I don't think this will ever be conclusive. I would hope evidence will come up and Trump will be removed. If not; it's going to be an interesting 3,5 years.
 
The man is a famous psychopath businessman who brags he can commit sexual assault on women because he's a "star."

I still can't believe the amount of "benefit of a doubt" people give this nightmarish ghoul of a person.

The dude has told stories incriminating himself in general as a creep, even potentially a pedophile. He bragged about walking backstage and getting away with it when he owned Miss universe pagents and was accused of that as well for Miss Teen USA which he also owned.

Like listen to the guy, he's admits this shit and brags about it. At bare minimum he was good friends with Epstein and almost certainly well aware of how he was a pedo as he hinted to Howard Stern. Like come the fuck on.
 
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Huh? He was a lifelong Democrat and now he's the face of the Republican party. Which one changed, the party or him?

The republican party is unrecognizable to what it was even 15 years ago. Trump made sure of that.

The Democrat party has shifted a lot to. A lot. The world has changed since then.

Donald Trump went wherever the money was. He donated to Hillary. Hillary could easily be a republican, at least a pre trump one. Back in that era, you could be wishy washing on immigration, anti gay marriage, and pro small government and still be a Democrat.
 
The man is a famous psychopath businessman who brags he can commit sexual assault on women because he's a "star."

I still can't believe the amount of "benefit of a doubt" people give this nightmarish ghoul of a person.

The dude has told stories incriminating himself in general as a creep, even potentially a pedophile. He bragged about walking backstage and getting away with it when he owned Miss universe pagents and was accused of that as well for Miss Teen USA which he also owned.

Like listen to the guy, he's admits this shit and brags about it. At bare minimum he was good friends with Epstein and almost certainly well aware of how he was a pedo as he hinted to Howard Stern. Like come the fuck on.

If you want to quote me then quote me. We are not in kindergarten (no pun intended). He told a lot of stories and probably will tell a lot in the future. Thing is he is the sitting president and if you want to have him outed then there has to be hard proof. No one is denying that he's a creep
 
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