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Interrogate every one of these mofos.
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Interrogate every one of these mofos.
Celcius
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I was on Reddit today and bored so I was like "let me see if there's an epstein subreddit". Not only was there one, but once I started reading, apparently it was well known that Ghislaine Maxwell had a Reddit account and that she posted all the time and the account has been inactive since she got arrested:
I guess Reddit is a popular website so it's not surprising but I'm just kinda shocked
I guess Reddit is a popular website so it's not surprising but I'm just kinda shocked
DownLikeBCPowder
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Narrative shaping and ideological injection of this sort is happening all over the internet. Fabrication of "organic content" is highly desirable and most are probably consuming it every day one way or another. I think if we could ever know the true extent of the scope, it would blow our collective minds.
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Celcius
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While doing research and going down the rabbit hole, I came across this video from 5 years ago by 60 Minutes Australia that goes over a lot of the details of this whole case (including interviews with victims):
45 minutes long and 20 million views
This story is crazy
45 minutes long and 20 million views
This story is crazy
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DeafTourette
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Trump's name has been redacted from over 100,000 documents in the Epstein files
Totally clears the President.
Senua
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Celcius
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I heard Ghislaine say she had dirt on Trump: Maxwell's life in jail
The first time Kathryn Comolli laid eyes on Ghislaine Maxwell was when the convicted sex trafficker was about to enter the isolation unit at Tallahassee prison in the autumn of 2022.
One of the people that was a prisoner with Maxwell in Florida gives an interview on what she was like in jail
ForAcademicPurposes
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What's the hold up?
Are they editing the list?
Are they editing the list?
How much of that was people being asked, over and over, "Do you know Trump?"
And without context, or knowing what other names there are, and how many times they are mentioned, it's hard to draw any real conclusion from this isolated data point. After all, we know the two were friends so naturally he is in there based on that. What if Clinton is mentioned 500,000 times? What does that mean? If there really was just bucket loads of evidence against Trump, presumably from dozens of witnesses (how else to generate so many mentions of his name?), then all the investigators, police, lawyers, judges, etc would know about it and this would have been all over the news when Ghislaine was in court.
But I know that I'm not mentioned in there AT ALL, so it's certainly better to NOT be in there, than it is 100,000 times
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It would be nice if the most transparent administration in history would provide the American people with the context, fully and freely, since that is one of the main pillars they clout-farmed on.
I agree. But it's also probably grounds for the largest class action lawsuit EVER if the gov releases documents that 'allege, by association' that some one is a pedo (or at least going to sex island). The US government isn't typically in the "name and shame" business and I'd rather keep it that way. Or the 'evidence' was collected illegally, this is most certainly the case if there is video, either epstein recorded it without their knowledge or some government did.
If it won't go to trial then it really shouldn't be released. Buuuut it could be leaked, and would have, to stop Trump. Folks might hold back on businessmen, celebs, or former politicians, but I just can't see all the folks involved in this case keeping mum about Trump in particular, or any active politician really.
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DeafTourette
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Trump installed yes men ... He controls all 3 branches basically.... He's protected.
Celcius
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How is this not all over the news:
Katie Johnson's full testimony is on youtube:
Corresponding court documents: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/1/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/
Shouldn't Trump be in jail right now?
Katie Johnson's full testimony is on youtube:
Corresponding court documents: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/1/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/
Shouldn't Trump be in jail right now?
DeafTourette
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Nocty
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seen this before its fucking wild.
There is another video in similar vain on bumble where a guy interviews some Filipino bouncer around 10 years ago (long before Epstein was a 'household name' and the guy talks about having to guard lots of world leaders, politicians and rich business men at, and I quote, 'some private island where rich people would go and do these crazy cult-like initiation rituals' on a private island.
The interview was like 2 hours long as well, he talked about tons of shit, including another place somewhere in switzerland where the same people would go to meet and pay for high end prostitutes etc. (possibly davos?). He said these people had no remorse, no empathy for their security team let alone god knows what was happening to the victims on that fucking island.
Bojji
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In the past FOUR YEARS when all those documents were available during the Ghislaine trial in New York and when the people around Biden were running everything? When Trump was getting dozens and dozens of legal attacks after his first term? When he won the nom? When assassins couldn't kill him? When he drove Biden out and they put Harris in? These documents were all there, the entire time, just sitting in some room. They had all been combed over for Ghislaines trial, so everyone involved knew about these '100,000 mentions' if that is even true. But NOT ONE bit of it is leaked? No witnesses come forward to stop LITERAL HITLER? No journalist gets a confidential source to point him towards victims to crack the story of the CENTURY?
It was no mystery to ANYONE that Trump was gonna run again and was highly likely to win again. If the DNC had this ammo sitting there they absolutely would have used it. Just left leaning agents, lawyers, and analysts could have leaked it, even without "higher approval". Thats how leaks work. And guess who would have pardoned the SAINT that leaked documents to stop LITERAL HITLER.......Bidens auto-pen!
The 'story' being concocted here just makes no sense. There are far simpler and more likely explanations for the 'epstein files' that don't involve a shadowy cabal of pedos at the highest levels of governments. Those things might (and probably do) exist but epstein wasn't in on it, he just liked doing it for himself. That the files are full of embarrassing, but not illegal, things is probably true, which is why they aren't getting released.
Venom Snake
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Regardless of how horrific these testimonies are, what disgusts me most is the fact that a little mental gymnastics mixed with tribalism is enough to elect someone like that president of the most powerful country in the world. And how all these YT crypto-influencers were rooting for it because stonks.
All of this begs for a hard reset: everyone involved should be locked up, and anyone who knew but remained silent to protect the perpetrators' reputations should be stripped of their privileges and assets.
ProtoByte
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there's no point in reiterating all of that. It clearly doesn't matter to most people, and honestly, it's not surprising. Too many that were riding Trump's coattails during the election were riling themselves up about this conspiracy theory. For a lot of people, either by way of genuine belief in the most lurid theories or spite for Trump "using the issue to win", the only reason the files don't get released is because he's implicated somehow. Common sense be damned.
What people who want some real answers and aren't just getting riled up about the politics should do is actually look at the heap of records that are publicly available as is, to better the understanding of what they're even talking about in the first place.
Speaking of which:
www.politico.com
This was the third time the suit was dropped or dismissed. I find the first dismissal morally contentious, but it's a civil suits. If you're making such a claim, there should be a criminal complaint.
www.theguardian.com
Filing lawsuits that not even the media claims to find credible is not proof of anything.
What people who want some real answers and aren't just getting riled up about the politics should do is actually look at the heap of records that are publicly available as is, to better the understanding of what they're even talking about in the first place.
Speaking of which:
Woman suing Trump over alleged teen rape drops suit, again
The lawyer who organized the event said Donald Trump's accuser had received threats and was too frightened to show up.
www.politico.com
This was the third time the suit was dropped or dismissed. I find the first dismissal morally contentious, but it's a civil suits. If you're making such a claim, there should be a criminal complaint.
Rape lawsuits against Donald Trump linked to former TV producer
Norm Lubow, formerly a producer on the Jerry Springer show, apparently coordinated lawsuits accusing Donald Trump of raping a child in the 1990s
www.theguardian.com
Specifically, Lubow claimed that he was the one who sold Simpson illegal drugs.
Filing lawsuits that not even the media claims to find credible is not proof of anything.
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Avid Reading Horse
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Woahhh that's crazy, will consider not voting for him in 2028.
Celcius
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Something else interesting I found - You know how Epstein's little black book (his personal phone book) is available unredacted online?
This guy at a website called every single number in the book and then wrote an article about it: https://www.motherjones.com/politic...eryone-in-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book/
It's a very interesting read... I'm like halfway through it now. At one point he gets a call from an unregistered number and it's the FBI. And then some of the people he talks to have a lot to say.
Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book (unredacted) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book (unredacted). First obtained by Nick Bryant.
archive.org
This guy at a website called every single number in the book and then wrote an article about it: https://www.motherjones.com/politic...eryone-in-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book/
It's a very interesting read... I'm like halfway through it now. At one point he gets a call from an unregistered number and it's the FBI. And then some of the people he talks to have a lot to say.
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Celcius
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Just continuing to go down the rabbit hole this weekend. Today just happens to be the 6 year anniversary of Epstein's death.
I came across this video which seems to partly show (in low resolution) the killer:
tl;dr: Officer Noel gets up and leaves to the right, exiting the area. Shortly after, the killer comes in and goes up the stairs to the cell (wearing an orange prisoner suit). Afterwards Officer Noel goes back to her desk. The killer is never shown coming back down the stairs. It's likely in the footage (3 minutes) that is missing where he exits and I assume was more visible in that footage.
I came across this video which seems to partly show (in low resolution) the killer:
tl;dr: Officer Noel gets up and leaves to the right, exiting the area. Shortly after, the killer comes in and goes up the stairs to the cell (wearing an orange prisoner suit). Afterwards Officer Noel goes back to her desk. The killer is never shown coming back down the stairs. It's likely in the footage (3 minutes) that is missing where he exits and I assume was more visible in that footage.
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"The Government's invocation of special circumstances, however, fails at the threshold," Engelmayer wrote. "Its entire premise — that the Maxwell grand jury materials would bring to light meaningful new information about Epstein's and Maxwell's crimes, or the Government's investigation into them — is demonstrably false."
"The materials do not identify any person other than Epstein and Maxwell as having had sexual contact with a minor," Engelmayer said. "They do not discuss or identify any client of Epstein's or Maxwell's. They do not reveal any heretofore unknown means or methods of Epstein's or Maxwell's crimes. They do not reveal new venues at which their crimes occurred. They do not reveal new sources of their wealth. They do not explore the circumstances of Epstein's death. They do not reveal the path of the Government's investigation."
He said anyone "who reviewed these materials expecting, based on the Government's representations, to learn new information about Epstein's and Maxwell's crimes and the investigation into them, would come away feeling disappointed and misled. There is no 'there' there."
There it is. Nobody else. So ether allllllllll that stuff, those THOUSANDS of mentions of Trump are extraneous hogwash that have nothing to do with pedo island or Ghislaines defense team (and the prosecution, presumably) was operating with just a tiny fraction of the evidence collected.
Toons
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We don't have do. Thats the neat part.
This dude told us TOOOO OUR FACE that this list did not exist not even a month ago.
Hes lying to our face. That means he's hiding something. Theres nothing else to it. If he didn't have anything to hide he wouldn't lie.
Hero of Spielberg
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'But he pointed out that these grand juries had not been used for any investigative purpose, but rather had only been convened to return an indictment. He said no victim, eyewitness or suspect testified.'
He's not saying Trump is innocent, or no one else did anything. He's just saying that was not the purpose of the Grand Jury.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
So Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton in the clear? The grand jury wasnt looking to indict these people, so any evidence against them would have been incidental.
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Dr.Morris79
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Dr.Morris79
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Werewolf Jones
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Lunarorbit
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Its almost like trump fucked kids and is trying to cover it up. Huh, weird. Guess I should just ignore this since some Twitter slob says Google searches for epistein are down.
Totally clears the president. His name being mentioned 100,000 times is just a coincidence. Yup, trying to militarize the DC police is totally normal and not a distraction from a racist, pedophile, xenophobe.
Totally clears the president. His name being mentioned 100,000 times is just a coincidence. Yup, trying to militarize the DC police is totally normal and not a distraction from a racist, pedophile, xenophobe.
Venom Snake
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It's not entirely that democrats can't keep this topic relevant, it's the Trump administration that is doing everything in its power to make it irrelevant.
Doom85
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Yes, demanding files be released that could find criminals guilty automatically equates "that's all they have to offer".
That's not some peak brain rot level of mental gymnastics at all…
Also massively hypocritical, as MAGA frequently operates on, "one crime is too many" when making arguments for deportation and other issues (not gun control though, oh no, a trillion crimes will never be too many for them in that department). But I guess they can pick and choose when, "one crime is too many", given we started this year with them mass pardoning 1,500 criminals.
And seriously. Think about what this is saying. "let's focus more on how much this party's leaders have to offer rather than focus on trying to determine if some politicians have broken the law".
Because that's all Trump and his followers seem to offer now (oh, and suspicious use of military troops within our own nation). Constant deflection and desperately wanting to change the subject to anything else. You know they were drooling in excitement when the Sydney Sweeney controversy started. "Hey, guys, stop worrying if your POTUS is a criminal, err, I mean ignoring the past times he has already been found guilty of certain crimes. Let's instead talk about a few people calling a commercial racist!"
It's telling how little the Trump team think of their own followers' intelligence (that's not even up for debate how little they value them, the second some of MAGA started asking about the files, Trump specifically tweeted "screw you" to anyone who supported him and were now asking about the files) that they think they can just dangle ANYTHING in front of them to distract them from this…..oh wait, it worked on some of them.
Lunarorbit
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I wonder how much the tables will start to turn when the tariffs start actually affecting the US. Trump keeps delaying these tariffs cause they are gonna butt fuck the economy into submission when they finally go through. Its gonna be back to covid level economic despair as more and more tech workers get laid off.Yes, demanding files be released that could find criminals guilty automatically equates "that's all they have to offer".
That's not some peak brain rot level of mental gymnastics at all…
Also massively hypocritical, as MAGA frequently operates on, "one crime is too many" when making arguments for deportation and other issues (not gun control though, oh no, a trillion crimes will never be too many for them in that department). But I guess they can pick and choose when, "one crime is too many", given we started this year with them mass pardoning 1,500 criminals.
And seriously. Think about what this is saying. "let's focus more on how much this party's leaders have to offer rather than focus on trying to determine if some politicians have broken the law".
Because that's all Trump and his followers seem to offer now (oh, and suspicious use of military troops within our own nation). Constant deflection and desperately wanting to change the subject to anything else. You know they were drooling in excitement when the Sydney Sweeney controversy started. "Hey, guys, stop worrying if your POTUS is a criminal, err, I mean ignoring the past times he has already been found guilty of certain crimes. Let's instead talk about a few people calling a commercial racist!"
It's telling how little the Trump team think of their own followers' intelligence (that's not even up for debate how little they value them, the second some of MAGA started asking about the files, Trump specifically tweeted "screw you" to anyone who supported him and were now asking about the files) that they think they can just dangle ANYTHING in front of them to distract them from this…..oh wait, it worked on some of them.
Unfortunately for the pedophile the demands for the epstein files isn't going away. Militarizing the DC police will just increase demands for transparency. The Olympics in LA next year is going to go horribly for this orange shit stain as there's gonna be mass protests against ICE coming in and rounding people up.
Draugoth
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As someone who lives in a country that tarifs all external products, I can safely say Americana are not ready for the impact of tariffs, I'm not talking about price increases, I'm talking about big tech monopoly.
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Baemono
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I'm surprised this went from a campaign promise from republicans to a "democrat hoax" over night
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KrakenIPA
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Could ICE target and arrest really good athletes from various countries to ensure US dominance in certain events? I have seen pictures from the 1936 Olympics but I have not yet followed through with research in regards to any direct action taken during the games to apprehend individuals. I have no idea how this monumental event will play out but I foresee chaos and calamity.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
You and everyone else in this thread just doesn't get it because you will "read" and "watch" anything and everything but the actually available information about this. You won't even acknowledge that stuff exists.
"The files" were never provide you with an actionable evidentiary basis to go after anyone whom the feds have not already gone after or that the media hasn't already exposed/caused reputational damage to legitimately or otherwise. At this point, it probably wouldn't even offer up new individuals to winnable lawsuits.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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Wrong message
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NickFire
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Every time you criticize people for having different political views on this topic you risk convincing someone that you don't care about the topic anymore today as you did before Trump was re-elected.Yes, demanding files be released that could find criminals guilty automatically equates "that's all they have to offer".
That's not some peak brain rot level of mental gymnastics at all…
Also massively hypocritical, as MAGA frequently operates on, "one crime is too many" when making arguments for deportation and other issues (not gun control though, oh no, a trillion crimes will never be too many for them in that department). But I guess they can pick and choose when, "one crime is too many", given we started this year with them mass pardoning 1,500 criminals.
And seriously. Think about what this is saying. "let's focus more on how much this party's leaders have to offer rather than focus on trying to determine if some politicians have broken the law".
Because that's all Trump and his followers seem to offer now (oh, and suspicious use of military troops within our own nation). Constant deflection and desperately wanting to change the subject to anything else. You know they were drooling in excitement when the Sydney Sweeney controversy started. "Hey, guys, stop worrying if your POTUS is a criminal, err, I mean ignoring the past times he has already been found guilty of certain crimes. Let's instead talk about a few people calling a commercial racist!"
It's telling how little the Trump team think of their own followers' intelligence (that's not even up for debate how little they value them, the second some of MAGA started asking about the files, Trump specifically tweeted "screw you" to anyone who supported him and were now asking about the files) that they think they can just dangle ANYTHING in front of them to distract them from this…..oh wait, it worked on some of them.
12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
Ghislaine Maxwell cleared to leave prison on work release: report
Convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell has reportedly been cleared to leave prison on work release.Podcast host Allison Gill obtained information about Maxwell's security score, sex offender waiver, and other details after the former partner of Jeffrey Epstein was moved to a...
www.rawstory.com
Ghislaine free'd on a "work" release to round up a fresh batch for our pedo in chief
Edit: Hm, it seems this is the original source:
EXCLUSIVE: I Have Ghislaine Maxwell's Security Score, Custody Level, Transfer Code, and Sex Offender Waiver
I have reviewed an electronic file that includes some of the information Senator Whitehouse is demanding from the Bureau of Prisons.
www.muellershewrote.com
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Celcius
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Newsweek saying this isn't true FYI: https://www.newsweek.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-files-donald-trump-update-2112468Ghislaine Maxwell cleared to leave prison on work release: report
Convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell has reportedly been cleared to leave prison on work release.Podcast host Allison Gill obtained information about Maxwell's security score, sex offender waiver, and other details after the former partner of Jeffrey Epstein was moved to a...
Ghislaine free'd on a "work" release to round up a fresh batch for our pedo in chief
"Was Ghislaine Maxwell Cleared to Leave Prison on Work Release?
No, Ghislaine Maxwell has not been cleared for work release. While she has been moved between facilities — most recently from Florida to Texas — these transfers have been for administrative or security reasons, not to grant her work privileges outside prison. Federal inmates serving long sentences for violent or sexual offenses are rarely considered for work release, which typically applies to low-risk offenders nearing the end of their sentences. Maxwell remains in full federal custody and is not authorized to leave prison for employment."
Not sure who's right, but removing her sex offender status would make sense for why she was allowed to be transferred.
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