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Third mistrial in for police officer that murdered his daughter's black boyfriend
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For the ones that are racist, it probably just makes them feel better about themselves to think they are better. It is also a tribal us vs them thing.
How do you mean? I just looked and the whole page except like one dude was saying he should be convicted?
Unfriendly TimeTraveler
Member
Shit will never change. Like fuck no matter how much evidence you can give to prove he is guilty. just as long as he's one or two of the things a white male or a cop then he is free from consequences. The feared for my life is especially sickening that all of them now use as a defense.
Will only make more racist or unfit people to become cops and these kinda things will continue to happen.
Will only make more racist or unfit people to become cops and these kinda things will continue to happen.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Reading shit like this is poison to my soul.
finowns
Member
Maya Angelou is dead wtf!?
When you think about it racism is pretty much small dick syndrome. All this slaughter and needless infighting because of egos and/or imaginary fears. To the point where they can't stand the sight of seeing anybody else just live their damn life.
And they claim we're the animals. FOHWTBS.
The lack of self-awareness will never not be staggering.
Yeah, winesses secretly put a gun in the garbage at a police station while being interviewed. That totally makes sense for someone to do, and isn't a hail mary police cover up.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Exactly. In Australia, that dude would be in jail so damn fast.
Story said:
I'm in my legal studies criminal conduct standards class right now and just can't comprehend this shit. Dreadful. Spoiler alert:
We have studied and joked about the US legal system because it fucking sucks. The few US students we have are often the most vocal in this and for good reason.
entremet
Member
Anyone arguing this? Seems rather clear.
"He's white so he's right"
Hold up, hold up. So if 6 jurours go "He's guilty of murder" and the other 6 go "he's guilty of manslaughter" the verdict is "fuck it, we might let him go"?
Like, really?
Not in this thread currently, but it's pretty common in most other threads on race issues.
old manatee
Banned
Yeah, what the fuck is this?
Can someone who's knowledgeable about American law explain how this make any sense whatsoever?
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
I love all the "stop wasting time and move on" post in the comments, those are real people lol. No one gives a shit about us.
Like all those black guys in the 90's that were shot by the cops and as their last action was sprinkling crack on themselves. Yeah not enough information for sure. Holy hell the jury in these cases are ridiculous
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
United States man.
Fuck your bullshit bitch ass country.
Disgrace.
Fuck your bullshit bitch ass country.
Disgrace.
nelsonroyale
Member
That is tragic and disgusting. It is clear both parents should pay dearly for their crimes. The jury seems highly suspect: there needs to be serious questions to how it is functioning so incompetantly.
It needs to be unanimous. If six people refuse to convict of murder and will only say manslaughter while six other will only convict of murder without going down to manslaughter it ends up a hung jury. People don't want to compromise? He walks.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
american laws is so stupid it hurts... damn i hope none of you will ends up in a case like that
That's some bullshit
SuperBowser
Member
lol
Well for one the victim is black and the other side of the fence is a white cop, not even sure we should be surprised anymore.
I don't think this is a good idea. There is a good argument for whether the jury system is good to begin with, but that aside, if you stick with the idea of trusting a jury of your peers, for something like murder it should definitely be unanimous. In this scenario, you could say "well if not for these racist assholes, we could convict that motherfucker", sure. But think of the reverse. A black man on trial for murdering a white girl. There isn't strong evidence, but he's the only one the prosecution put up, and they have circumstantial evidence to show he might have been there and could have done it. Half the jury is racist and want to believe that. Should it be required that the jury be unanimous to convict? Yes? No?
The Last Wizard
Member
It's honestly very simple, the problem is you only reform what you feel isn't working as intended and the us justice system is working as intended.
Also watch how this thread it any like it barely reach half of the pages in comparison to the friend zone thread. People don't give a fuck.
Wolf Akela
Member
Has there a more ridiculous case than this?
Like is there a case where there were multiple videos of a cop killing someone and somehow gets off for whatever stupid reason?
Like is there a case where there were multiple videos of a cop killing someone and somehow gets off for whatever stupid reason?
What in the name of fuck.
sixteen-bit
Member
smh
It's the American citizens who are in the juries that are fucking up here.
supermarioworldE
Banned
Couldn't be any more clear how the government, the police, and a good chunk of this country still feel about black people. They keep finding new ways to not surprise me.
Fuck this country man. I'd be more shocked to see what it would take to put and keep a white cop in jail for killing a black victim.
Fuck this country man. I'd be more shocked to see what it would take to put and keep a white cop in jail for killing a black victim.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
This is disgusting... it's fucking abhorrent.
Being black, if I lived in the US, I'd move to Canada.
Being black, if I lived in the US, I'd move to Canada.
Mammoth Jones
Member
But we wrong for saying Black lives do matter...
HarryHengst
Member
White lives matter too!!!!! Clearly black people are the real racists here.
LinkSlayer64
Member
I felt like I didn't have much to add besides "this sucks and is ridiculous."
But in response to this.
This sucks and is ridiculous. Throw him in jail.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Oh this is the third trial
yea he's gonna walk.
What do you do when the justice system fails you?
What do you do when the justice system fails you?
Elegant Weapon
Member
"you guys are just causing a bigger divide, making it us vs them"
man, fuck that shit. Fuck the police. Their jobs are to maintain these social classes exactly as they are.
That's if the defense attorney doesn't try and get them relinquished of their duties. I always find that funny. A black person is "bias" so they get dismissed but somehow people who aren't black can be unbiased against cop killings and the cops always get off
bobbychalkers
Member
Sounds about right for the state of affairs for this country. Not surprised at all.
Black Republican
Member
the jury system is so fucked. heh, but add one more black person on that bench, shit woulda been over by now
The thing of it is that defense attorneys will filter out anyone who thinks black lives do matter from the jury pool.
tearsintherain
Member
Couple of more fucked up things about this case:
1. the defendant retired after the shooting, collected a lump sum retirement payment of $160k, and has been collecting a $3000/mo pension retirement since. As long as he is found not guilty in a criminal case he keeps collecting that pension.
2. The daughter was adopted, so the stories that he and his wife dropped her off at a homeless shelter and shot at her during the confrontation shouldn't be crazy shocking, nor the fact that she wants him jailed. The couple also have a second adopted daughter.
3. in a previous mistrial, one of the jurors revealed that two of the jury members had a "black people are always guilty" attitude and refused to even discuss the case (lol wtf? isn't that your job?). While they haven't revealed the jury makeup or thoughts from this mistrial, it sounds like Tulsa, OK is not gonna be a place where a black guy is gonna get a fair trial. Oh, in the first trial 11 of 12 jurors found him guilty but one holdout kept it a mistrial.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagel...cle_deb43a2e-33f8-5cc5-bb0a-3654e191638b.html
Nope. Verdicts in criminal cases have to be unanimous, one more person wouldn't have meant much if 4-5 people are holding out.
1. the defendant retired after the shooting, collected a lump sum retirement payment of $160k, and has been collecting a $3000/mo pension retirement since. As long as he is found not guilty in a criminal case he keeps collecting that pension.
2. The daughter was adopted, so the stories that he and his wife dropped her off at a homeless shelter and shot at her during the confrontation shouldn't be crazy shocking, nor the fact that she wants him jailed. The couple also have a second adopted daughter.
3. in a previous mistrial, one of the jurors revealed that two of the jury members had a "black people are always guilty" attitude and refused to even discuss the case (lol wtf? isn't that your job?). While they haven't revealed the jury makeup or thoughts from this mistrial, it sounds like Tulsa, OK is not gonna be a place where a black guy is gonna get a fair trial. Oh, in the first trial 11 of 12 jurors found him guilty but one holdout kept it a mistrial.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagel...cle_deb43a2e-33f8-5cc5-bb0a-3654e191638b.html
Nope. Verdicts in criminal cases have to be unanimous, one more person wouldn't have meant much if 4-5 people are holding out.