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[xxracerxx]

I don't think I've ever been more turned off from voting. You Hillary people need to deal with the fact that no everyone is in love with your Queen the way you are. Hell, she's not even that bad. It's the fan brigade that keeps trying to browbeat people into accepting the third way as the only way or else they're racist, mysoginist, closet conservative pricks. Donald Fucking Trump is doing a better job of convincing people to vote for her than her own supporters are. Goddamn supporters are the worst thing about elections, aren't they? I just found this out (didn't really pay attention to the peons fighting back when Obama and Hillary clashed) and now I guess I can look forward to another 15 or so elections full of Bernie Bro and Shillary types.

Just found out? Oh man.

 

[BearFlexington]

Bernie's campaign is surging and he'll have my vote in the primaries June 7th. After that, if he loses to Hillary, I'll go back to the drawing board and look at both candidates through a new lens. Really, really hoping it doesn't come to that.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

I don't think I've ever been more turned off from voting. You Hillary people need to deal with the fact that no everyone is in love with your Queen the way you are. Hell, she's not even that bad. It's the fan brigade that keeps trying to browbeat people into accepting the third way as the only way or else they're racist, mysoginist, closet conservative pricks. Donald Fucking Trump is doing a better job of convincing people to vote for her than her own supporters are. Goddamn supporters are the worst thing about elections, aren't they? I just found this out (didn't really pay attention to the peons fighting back when Obama and Hillary clashed) and now I guess I can look forward to another 15 or so elections full of Bernie Bro and YAAAS Queen types.

Point out the Hillary people, I'm betting the vast majority are Bernie people who are willing to swallow the Hillary pill because they know it is the better choice for our country.

Bernie's campaign is surging and he'll have my vote in the primaries June 7th. After that, if he loses to Hillary, I'll go back to the drawing board and look at both candidates through a new lens. Really, really hoping it doesn't come to that.

Trump v. Hillary

New lens. Damn, you sure you are a Bernie supporter?

Really would love some insight in how you go from Bernie to Trump.

 

[IrishNinja]

that godwin thing bobby posted...wow, hadn't heard that prior

Goddamn supporters are the worst thing about elections, aren't they?

fortunately, one can vote for a candidate & not their rabid fanbase - many of us out here did this for bernie recently (but clearly, not enough)

 

[SolarPowered]

Just found out? Oh man.

This shit makes me want to move to Canada almost as much as the Republican candidates. I know there are probably corners of the internet where Republicans have gone full Lord of the flies on one another, but I just don't see the hate and fervor on their side that democrats have displayed. So much for the party of reason and unity.

 

[Aaronology]

Trump is not campaining on a platform of "general intolerance of brown people", he is campaigning on a platform of general intolerance of people who are here illegally (many but not all of whom happen to be brown), and people who want to kill us (many of whom also happen to be brown).

This is why blindly playing the racist card against people who choose to vote for Trump is flawed. There are no doubt those who actually hate brown people, and who support Trump because it would be a means to an end for them. There are also those who believe that laws -- whatever they are -- should be upheld (or banished) and that the balance between national security and personal liberties are not necessarily having the perfect balance. Neither of those are racism, since the underlying reason is not race. If white people from Sweden were trying to come to America and kill Americans, I believe Trump would be calling for a ban on Swedes coming to America.

Just to get this out of the way, I actually think banning muslims from coming to the US would be silly, ineffective, impractical, and a waste of money. So for that reason I don't support it. But I don't think it's racist. I even support accepting the Syrian refugees.

The bottom line is: A -> B is not the same as B -> A. All racists are Trump supporters does not mean all Trump supporters are racists, nor does it mean Trump's policies are inherently racist. For that you need willful intent to discriminate because of race. Disproportionately affecting people of a certain race for a reason that is not -- at its core -- because of race is not racist.

We have the presumptive GOP nominee for President of the United States spreading extremely racist disinformation, using his massive platform to further the exact type of bigotry that is used as justification for the disproportionate police brutality and discrimination minorities, and black people specifically, face in this country. And you claim he isn't running a campaign of intolerance?

What?

 

[loki 16]

I'm a big Bernie supporter and I will support him until the end. In the General I won't vote for Hillary I will vote against Trump.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Trump is not campaining on a platform of "general intolerance of brown people", he is campaigning on a platform of general intolerance of people who are here illegally (many but not all of whom happen to be brown), and people who want to kill us (many of whom also happen to be brown)...

...The bottom line is: A -> B is not the same as B -> A. All racists are Trump supporters does not mean all Trump supporters are racists, nor does it mean Trump's policies are inherently racist. For that you need willful intent to discriminate because of race.

I don't even believe the question of Trump supporters all being racist is worth entertaining, honestly. It doesn't really matter if they are, or they consider themselves to be such, or if they outright deny it. Their electing him will absolutely be a show of support for further institutionalizing racism, and of strengthening the racism already inherent in a system that's never not been built on it. I don't need to worry about the rhetorical in that case, because the reality will reflect, regardless.

You'd have to argue that the man who has a history of being willfully discriminatory in his own business practices would be willing to set aside that instinct while performing the most important job of his life, when he's never done such a thing before. Never. In his entire history of being a not-great businessman (but an amazing self-promoter) he's never actually shed any of the bad habits and weak points that have dogged him for going on over four decades now.

When he runs for president like he's just another bad-guy character in a highly-rated reality show, what incentive does he have to stop?

 

[VendettaRed07]

Hillary is almost as bad as Trump.

Also, on an unrelated note, I think Jozy Altidore is almost as good as Messi. World Cup 2018, USA can do it guys.

 

[xxracerxx]

This shit makes me want to move to Canada almost as much as the Republican candidates. I know there are probably corners of the internet where Republicans have gone full Lord of the flies on one another, but I just don't see the hate and fervor on their side that democrats have displayed. So much for the party of reason and unity.

You must not watch the Republican debates then.

 

[Zekes!]

damn and I thought I was stressed over the Canadian federal election last year

 

[Sai-kun]

As a queer person, I don't understand how any queer person could vote republican, unless you're crazy fucking well off like Caitlyn Jenner. Republicans don't like you, and they sure as fuck don't respect you.

 

[Azzanadra]

this didn't happen. People didn't say vote Hillary or else you're a racist. People said lots of Bernie supporters had problems with race issues. In a variety of ways. But I want you to show me one instance where someone implied Bernie support itself was a sign of racism.

Canada UNDER Harper. We still had our free healthcare and Harper wouldn't have dared touched abortion or gay rights.

 

[BearFlexington]

I'm a big Bernie supporter and I will support him until the end. In the General I won't vote for Hillary I will vote against Trump.

I like the way your brain works.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

I'm a big Bernie supporter and I will support him until the end. In the General I won't vote for Hillary I will vote against Trump.

Care to explain that?

 

[...Scatter...]

Care to explain that?

He's going to hold his nose.

 

[cpp_is_king]

You must not watch the Republican debates then.

The candidates, yea. But not the Republican constituents. Half of them are sad, half of them are happy. But they seem to mostly leave each other alone, and direct their anger towards the candidates they don't like, and not each other.

 

[Timedog]

By punishing the Democratic party by rescinding your vote, you threaten to erode any progress we've made under Obama as well as help tilt the country rightward in the future, which makes it even harder in the future for candidates like Bernie to have any sort of viability.

People are free to do whatever they want but shooting themselves and everyone else in the foot isn't very smart.

 

[RDreamer]

"Hillary is almost as bad as Trump" people are fucking ridiculous to me. What planet do you live on? Sure she's almost as bad if you ignore like 90% of what Trump has said through the entire campaign. Then maybe she's almost as bad.

Yes Hillary isn't perfect. Yes I'd prefer Bernie, but he isn't really perfect either. We live in a country though where there likely won't ever be a perfect choice, especially when you're down to the general election. Life isn't fair. Deal with it and vote with logic like an adult. Or don't and be chastised for it/live with your stupid vote, I guess.

By punishing the Democratic party by rescinding your vote, you threaten to erode any progress we've made under Obama as well as help tilt the country rightward in the future, which makes it even harder in the future for candidates like Bernie to have any sort of viability.

People are free to do whatever they want but shooting themselves and everyone else in the foot isn't very smart.

This.

I swear if by some crazy circumstances puts Trump in the white house over Hillary and some Trump appointed supreme court judge knocks down some law put into effect by the spiritual successor to Bernie and I meet one of you people that refused to vote for Hillary because reasons, I'm just going to shake my head at you forever.

We have the presumptive GOP nominee for President of the United States spreading extremely racist disinformation, using his massive platform to further the exact type of bigotry that is used as justification for the disproportionate police brutality and discrimination minorities, and black people specifically, face in this country. And you claim he isn't running a campaign of intolerance?

What?

And seriously, this right here. Please, someone tell me how Hillary is almost as bad as Trump when he does shit like this. I'm waiting.

 

[VendettaRed07]

edit: 1000% done with this thread

 

[Sub_Level]

Voted for Bernie and definitely votin for Hillary.

But I am also curious why you all are singling out white males. Minorities and women outweigh white males in votes by like 7 to 3 if not more. If Hillary loses (and she won't), its not because the evil white male bernie supporter didn't vote for her. Its because democrats didn't come out to vote, which isn't exactly a first. Democrats suck.

 

[aliengmr]

So long as the supreme court runs the risk of swinging to the far right I'll be voting for the Dems, simple as that. Sanders or Clinton, it doesn't matter.

I have serious doubts that Ginsburg will last 4-8 years, and if she goes and a Republican is in the White House, progressives will be fucked, end of story.

 

[HylianTom]

Since y'all are dodging my question with the skill of Neo in the Matrix, I'll ask it another way:

Say you get what you want in 2016. The shrill evil corporate moderate puppet loses.

The GOP nominee, whoever he is, wins.
He proceeds to replace Scalia with a younger version of Scalia.
The court remains tilted conservative, 5-4.
Ginsburg or Breyer are both pretty old. One of them departs. 6-3.
Kennedy, turning 80 this summer, takes his chance to be replaced. Young 6-3.

Then, in 2020, a backlash to the GOP President occurs.
Bernie 2.0 - just like the 2016 guy you adore - is swept into office!
Not only is he elected - he brings great coattails: House & Senate! Woo!
The dream can finally be realized!

Bernie 2.0 and his Congress set out to work immediately.
First up: campaign finance reform!
But it's challenged, arrives to SCOTUS, and falls, 6-3.

Next: the best healthcare system in the world!
But.. challenged again. SCOTUS rules, essentially saying, "nope, lol."

This is repeated on anything remotely controversial that Bernie 2.0 signs.
And keep in mind: that shiny new conservative majority is now pretty damn young.

We elect Bernie 3.0 in 2028, and the same fate befalls his agenda in court.

On top of this, remember all of those horrible decisions we've seen over the past generation?
They're now all baked-in. They aren't going anywhere.
This includes Citizen's United, corporate personhood, etc - it's all here to stay.

-====-

You love to talk about your feelings, your conscience.

How do you feel about this? Or are you going to ignore it yet again?

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

By punishing the Democratic party by rescinding your vote, you threaten to erode any progress we've made under Obama as well as help tilt the country rightward in the future, which makes it even harder in the future for candidates like Bernie to have any sort of viability.

People are free to do whatever they want but shooting themselves and everyone else in the foot isn't very smart.

I'll be fine; I'm a gainfully employed white heterosexual male. Bring on the Trump presidency, I'm sure it won't be any different than Hdawg. Shes so uppity anyways, expecting my vote...I'll show her!

RBG snip

Are you trying to tell me that this election is going to shape America for a generation because SCOTUS has the ability to overturn Congress and the POTUS? Ok, still voting Trump cause Hillary isn't Bernie.

 

[Odrion]

I really hope when the primaries is over Hillary is dunking the fuck out of the Republican pick so this act of refusing to vote or voting for the republicans out of spite would matter even less.

I'd love to have the luxury of voting for the green party this election, but seeing that I'm in Wisconsin and we're 1.) a swing state and 2.) hella stupid I'm probably voting for Hillary.

 

[...Scatter...]

I just wish people were more open to dialogue and actual debate. Some of the most thoughtfully explained opinions here have come from folks explaining why OPs point is legitimate and I have yet to hear any real thoughtful debate from the other viewpoint. Lots of rhetoric though.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Thread whining?

That's a bit of reach.

Complaining about already having this thread is what, exactly?

 

[Expansion Pack]

The idea that people should swallow their pride and vote for the most corporatized politician in American history out of fear for what Trump might do is ridiculous. There is no doubt in my mind that empowering corporations and other special interest groups (by electing their chosen candidate) will lead to a significantly worse state of affairs for this country in the long term than whatever TEMPORARY social problems might arise from a Trump presidency. And when I say temporary, I mean 4 years maximum. If he does something rash, he's either impeached or gone in 2020 and whatever non-Hillary democratic candidate becomes president and restores order to the nation. It's sad to see you guys so scared of Trump like this, he's a person like you and I. He too, is capable of empathy and he was a democrat for most of his life or something. If Trump wins, everything will be just fine, I'm sure. Just relax and enjoy watching the establishment lose its shit.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Since y'all are dodging my question with the skill of Neo in the Matrix, I'll ask it another way:

Say you get what you want in 2016. The shrill evil corporate moderate puppet loses.

The GOP nominee, whoever he is, wins.
He proceeds to replace Scalia with a younger version of Scalia.
The court remains tilted conservative, 5-4.
Ginsburg or Breyer are both pretty old. One of them departs. 6-3.
Kennedy, turning 80 this summer, takes his chance to be replaced. Young 6-3.

Then, in 2020, a backlash to the GOP President occurs.
Bernie 2.0 - just like the 2016 guy you adore - is swept into office!
Not only is he elected - he brings great coattails: House & Senate! Woo!
The dream can finally be realized!

Bernie 2.0 and his Congress set out to work immediately.
First up: campaign finance reform!
But it's challenged, arrives to SCOTUS, and falls, 6-3.

Next: the best healthcare system in the world!
But.. challenged again. SCOTUS rules, essentially saying, "nope, lol."

This is repeated on anything remotely controversial that Bernie 2.0 signs.
And keep in mind: that shiny new conservative majority is now pretty damn young.

We elect Bernie 3.0 in 2028, and the same fate befalls his agenda in court.

On top of this, remember all of those horrible decisions we've seen over the past generation?
They're now all baked-in. They aren't going anywhere.
This includes Citizen's United, corporate personhood, etc - it's all here to stay.

-====-

You love to talk about your feelings, your conscience.

How do you feel about this? Or are you going to ignore it yet again?

 

[RDreamer]

The idea that people should swallow their pride and vote for the most corporatized politician in American history out of fear for what Trump might do is ridiculous. There is no doubt in my mind that empowering corporations and other special interest groups (by electing their chosen candidate) will lead to a significantly worse state of affairs for this country in the long term than whatever TEMPORARY social problems might arise from a Trump presidency. And when I say temporary, I mean 4 years maximum. If he does something rash, he's either impeached or gone in 2020 and whatever non-Hillary democratic candidate becomes president and restores order to the nation. It's sad to see you guys so scared of Trump like this, he's a person like you and I. He too, is capable of empathy and he was a democrat for most of his life or something. If Trump wins, everything will be just fine, I'm sure. Just relax and enjoy watching the establishment lose its shit.

Can I perhaps introduce you to the supreme court?

 

[Geist-]

I've never heard anyone say this.

I've only seen it on the Internet, so I don't take it very seriously.

 

[SolarPowered]

Point out the Hillary people, I'm betting the vast majority are Bernie people who are willing to swallow the Hillary pill because they know it is the better choice for our country.

I've seen plenty of generalizations of Bernie supporters on this side of GAF. We can't even have a single political thread without someone cracking jokes about "low information" voters, pampered white kids with nothing to lose or "revolutions". It's a stark contrast between that and honest (even if slightly misguided) concerns like those displayed in the VOX tax thread or really lighthearted joking like anything related to Larry David or Bernie's hair (stuff I consider more or less equal to the robotic/cold Hillary memes and such). At worst most Bernie supporters definitely roast Hillary (and plenty of people do this on GAF without stating who they're even voting for come November). We don't make threads about Hillary supporters not being real democrats, email server drama, mistaken endorsements or other nonsense, but for some reason we're the guys propelling Trump to the top, insulting minorities and endangering the Democratic party for exploring our options.

Shit is tiring, man. I hope I haven't crossed some sort of invisible line here, but let the chips fall where they may...

You must not watch the Republican debates then.

I watch them and I see jokes. The only threats are evil Cruise and the abominable Trump. Only Hillary supporters ever took Robot Marcosoft seriously and I'll never understand why considering how he let Cruise eat his soul and Trump consume his flesh.

 

[...Scatter...]

Since y'all are dodging my question with the skill of Neo in the Matrix, I'll ask it another way:

Say you get what you want in 2016. The shrill evil corporate moderate puppet loses.

The GOP nominee, whoever he is, wins.
He proceeds to replace Scalia with a younger version of Scalia.
The court remains tilted conservative, 5-4.
Ginsburg or Breyer are both pretty old. One of them departs. 6-3.
Kennedy, turning 80 this summer, takes his chance to be replaced. Young 6-3.

Then, in 2020, a backlash to the GOP President occurs.
Bernie 2.0 - just like the 2016 guy you adore - is swept into office!
Not only is he elected - he brings great coattails: House & Senate! Woo!
The dream can finally be realized!

Bernie 2.0 and his Congress set out to work immediately.
First up: campaign finance reform!
But it's challenged, arrives to SCOTUS, and falls, 6-3.

Next: the best healthcare system in the world!
But.. challenged again. SCOTUS rules, essentially saying, "nope, lol."

This is repeated on anything remotely controversial that Bernie 2.0 signs.
And keep in mind: that shiny new conservative majority is now pretty damn young.

We elect Bernie 3.0 in 2028, and the same fate befalls his agenda in court.

On top of this, remember all of those horrible decisions we've seen over the past generation?
They're now all baked-in. They aren't going anywhere.
This includes Citizen's United, corporate personhood, etc - it's all here to stay.

-====-

You love to talk about your feelings, your conscience.

How do you feel about this? Or are you going to ignore it yet again?

You are dead on. Once again proving my point that we've had no actual debate from those disagreeing with this.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

The idea that people should swallow their pride and vote for the most corporatized politician in American history out of fear for what Trump might do is ridiculous. There is no doubt in my mind that empowering corporations and other special interest groups (by electing their chosen candidate) will lead to a significantly worse state of affairs for this country in the long term than whatever TEMPORARY social problems might arise from a Trump presidency. And when I say temporary, I mean 4 years maximum. If he does something rash, he's either impeached or gone in 2020 and whatever non-Hillary democratic candidate becomes president and restores order to the nation. It's sad to see you guys so scared of Trump like this, he's a person like you and I. He too, is capable of empathy and he was a democrat for most of his life or something. If Trump wins, everything will be just fine, I'm sure. Just relax and enjoy watching the establishment lose its shit.

Hello, what is SCOTUS, what is a life-time appointment?

Temporary, like Marbury v. Madison; Gibbons v. Ogden; Dred Scott v. Sanford; Plessy v. Ferguson; Schenck v. U.S; Brown v. Board; Miranda v. Arizona; Roe v. Wade; Lawrence v. Texas; DoC v. Heller; etc etc. etc.

 

[GuessMyUserName]

I would rather live in Canada under Harper than America under Clinton.

Holy fuck no

He ran an extremely Islamophobic campaign and used dog-whistle politics. He's practically Trump-lite. Imagine the kind of endorsement of that brand of politics it would be if he won.

This plus muzzling scientists, doing everything he could to halt information spreading, census, literally preventing Elections Canada from telling people to vote (+voter law junk), destroying libraries in order to make short term gains to cover his failing economic policies as well as sabotaging climate change efforts due to his oil reliance, punishing people for reporting safety violations, and yes, taking advantage of Islamophobia in order to pull themselves from the grave in the election and pushing such disgusting issues and "solution" plans to the front of the election when they realized it struck a cord with ignorant masses.

Oh and having a leader who seriously still opposes same-sex marriage in Canada and while he's conceded defeat, he still had to re-open the issue to a vote in order to get there.

Get this "I'd rather Harper" garbage out of here.

 

[TyphoonStruggle]

Since y'all are dodging my question with the skill of Neo in the Matrix, I'll ask it another way:

Say you get what you want in 2016. The shrill evil corporate moderate puppet loses.

The GOP nominee, whoever he is, wins.
He proceeds to replace Scalia with a younger version of Scalia.
The court remains tilted conservative, 5-4.
Ginsburg or Breyer are both pretty old. One of them departs. 6-3.
Kennedy, turning 80 this summer, takes his chance to be replaced. Young 6-3.

Then, in 2020, a backlash to the GOP President occurs.
Bernie 2.0 - just like the 2016 guy you adore - is swept into office!
Not only is he elected - he brings great coattails: House & Senate! Woo!
The dream can finally be realized!

Bernie 2.0 and his Congress set out to work immediately.
First up: campaign finance reform!
But it's challenged, arrives to SCOTUS, and falls, 6-3.

Next: the best healthcare system in the world!
But.. challenged again. SCOTUS rules, essentially saying, "nope, lol."

This is repeated on anything remotely controversial that Bernie 2.0 signs.
And keep in mind: that shiny new conservative majority is now pretty damn young.

We elect Bernie 3.0 in 2028, and the same fate befalls his agenda in court.

On top of this, remember all of those horrible decisions we've seen over the past generation?
They're now all baked-in. They aren't going anywhere.
This includes Citizen's United, corporate personhood, etc - it's all here to stay.

-====-

You love to talk about your feelings, your conscience.

How do you feel about this? Or are you going to ignore it yet again?

Why would we need Bernie 2.0 or Bernie 3.0 when we can have Bernie 1.0? What the heck?

EDIT: Oh right, cuz Hillary's inevitable. People on GAF told me so. The News told me so. Why even vote for Bernie 1.0. Despite what Independents want, establishment Democrats want the establishment Democrat candidate. Then go cry when Independents don't vote for their Queen.

 

[DeadPhoenix]

Is it okay if I vote for a progressive third party? Your opinion really matters to me.

 

[Expansion Pack]

Is the whole SCOTUS appointment thing that big of a deal? Bigger of a deal than throwing a wrench in the plans of the elite in this country?

 

[loki 16]

Care to explain that?

I don't like Hillary she is a corporate shill who loves war. Still I rather have her than Trump (I'm Mexican btw) who is only running for himself. That is the only reason I'm voting for Hillary.

 

[Phu]

The idea that people should swallow their pride and vote for the most corporatized politician in American history out of fear for what Trump might do is ridiculous. There is no doubt in my mind that empowering corporations and other special interest groups (by electing their chosen candidate) will lead to a significantly worse state of affairs for this country in the long term than whatever TEMPORARY social problems might arise from a Trump presidency. And when I say temporary, I mean 4 years maximum. If he does something rash, he's either impeached or gone in 2020 and whatever non-Hillary democratic candidate becomes president and restores order to the nation. It's sad to see you guys so scared of Trump like this, he's a person like you and I. He too, is capable of empathy and he was a democrat for most of his life or something. If Trump wins, everything will be just fine, I'm sure. Just relax and enjoy watching the establishment lose its shit.

I'm willing to bet that if Trump were never rich he'd be first in line to bend over for corporate America.

 

[PsychBat!]

Complaining about already having this thread is what, exactly?

Me taking is notice that we had this thread already is complaining now?

 

[xxracerxx]

Is the whole SCOTUS appointment thing that big of a deal? Bigger of a deal than throwing a wrench in the plans of the elite in this country?

Are you fucking kidding me?

 

[cpp_is_king]

Can I perhaps introduce you to the supreme court?

Probably the only thing he's hard right on is 2nd amendment.

Back in the days when he was openly a democrat (instead of secretly a democrat) he was outspoken about his support for abortion rights. He specifically said that he supported a woman's right to choose, but was against partial birth abortions.

Now he's changed his stance, and all he says is "I'm pro life now". Trump is not a guy to be loose on words. If he supported banning all types of abortions, he would just have been shouting it from the rooftops by now. Just like he has with the wall, and banning muslims, and all the other insane stuff he says. You think he's scared to come out and say "we need to ban all abortions"? But he hasnt' said it. He hasn't even touched on it.

He said he believes in everyone having healthcare (just not Obamacare).

He said corporations should pay more taxes and we should close all the loopholes.

A Trump supreme court nominee would honestly be pretty centrist IMO, and centrist is exactly what we need. A Bernie nominee would be equally as horrible as a Cruz nominee, IMO

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Is the whole SCOTUS appointment thing that big of a deal? Bigger of a deal than throwing a wrench in the plans of the elite in this country?

Yes, if you don't understand that I suggest you read up a bit. SCOTUS is god.

 

[Sohter.Nura]

Really doesn't matter if you're not in a swing state, to be honest. I'm in Florida so I'll probably vote her, but I almost regret having to do so.

I think you're being judgmental of people who don't want to vote for Hillary. If she'd like to get the progressives to get out and vote for her, then she should try to represent them and not be a center-right candidate.

If we keep voting on the candidate we don't want just so the other doesn't win, we will *never* get the candidate we want.

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

Is the whole SCOTUS appointment thing that big of a deal? Bigger of a deal than throwing a wrench in the plans of the elite in this country?

......Please tell me this is a joke. Please be a joke....

 

[RDreamer]

Is the whole SCOTUS appointment thing that big of a deal? Bigger of a deal than throwing a wrench in the plans of the elite in this country?

SCOTUS is a fucking huge deal.

And how precisely is your vote going to throw a wrench into the plans of the elite in this country?

 

[pigeon]

Is the whole SCOTUS appointment thing that big of a deal? Bigger of a deal than throwing a wrench in the plans of the elite in this country?

What, by allowing a fascist bigot to get elected? You don't think you yourself might have any plans that might get disrupted by that?

 

[Einchy]

Is the whole SCOTUS appointment thing that big of a deal? Bigger of a deal than throwing a wrench in the plans of the elite in this country?

Nah, not a big deal at all. It's not like their decisions have a huge impact on 318 million people. Pretty sure all they do is play dress up.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

......Please tell me this is a joke. Please be a joke....

Here we are and this is the thing, people just don't get it.