The only rule that ever made sense to me I learned from a history, not an economics, professor at Wharton. 'Fear,' he used to say, 'fear is the most valuable commodity in the universe.' That blew me away. 'Turn on the TV,' he'd say. 'What are you seeing? People selling their products? No. People selling the fear of you having to live without their products.' Fuckin' A, was he right. Fear of aging, fear of loneliness, fear of poverty, fear of failure. Fear is the most basic emotion we have. Fear is primal. Fear sells.
This phone commercial exemplifies everything wrong with this generation
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why did you feel the need to post them online rather than keep them to yourself?
maniac-kun
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Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.
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Ninja Scooter
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Why do people take pictures of anything?
kitchenmotors
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Because it was part of a huge midwest GAF meetup and other people wanted to see the photos? I'm sorry that you don't feel the need to share things with others, but sometimes people want to see what their friends are up to.
vas_a_morir
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How so? What I'm talking about is a fundamental change in the way people live their lives and how they feel about themselves. There have been volumes of scholarly journals written about this subject.
Commercials do not exist in a vacuum. They are messages crafted in response to hundreds of hours of qualitative consumer research. I think social media is having a negative impact on mental health among millennials, and this commercial just 'exemplifies' it.
why to share with 3000 of their closest friends of course
Cause it was part of a meet up with others? Why shouldnt I share my pics? Also I only keep the people i really talk to I dont have 3000 friends. lol
Ninja Scooter
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If that's how they choose to enjoy themselves why does it matter? We are talking about a fucking concert here. Is there a right way and wrong way to enjoy a concert?
kitchenmotors
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You are making HUGE generalizations. At the moment, anything I share goes out to 192 friends that I know. No one has complained about my photos from events... and if people did, I wouldn't do it or they could just unfriend me. Plus, it's easy to take photos and upload them to Facebook where there is a central location for everything. I do also back everything up, but it's convenient.
What else would you do if you didn't take photos of a concert or event? You would go home and talk to friends about it. You would tell them about your experience. Sharing photos is just an extension of that. I don't understand why people are so upset by this.
vas_a_morir
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That's a spectacular quote. Thank you very much.
Forceatowulf
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I don't post during shows. A lot of people are 5 minutes ahead sometimes which leads to spoilers... fuck that noise.
I do post during Ball games on GAF on my computer though, true. You got me on that one, ya jerk. In my defense though, the screens for GAF and the game are side by side on my computer and I can pause and rewind at my leisure. I can't pause my friends when they're trying to talk to me, or pause a live movie/concert. I've also never posted on GAF/twitter while any of these things were going on. Why? Because I was in the moment, my phone was the last thing on my mind.
Anyone who's posting on GAF or trying to be cool on twitter/facebook, etc while your friends/SO/Family is trying to talk to you, or you're at a movie theater, you are an asshole. Period.
vas_a_morir
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because your photos probably suck, you ruined someone else's experience by blocking their view of the stage with your gigantic phone, and nobody cares about your photos in the first place.
and you lost out by screwing around with your phone instead of just taking in the experience as it was.
This is good.
fierrotlepou
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She's actually a sick, sadistic reptilian psychopath that gets incredibly moist when she can make her friends jealous. In this case she bought a ticket to see a band that all her friends love except for her without letting them know.
The girl standing next to her is someone she met at the concert.
The girl standing next to her is someone she met at the concert.
Byakuya769
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I was skeptical about this thread, but I think OP is on to something.
is this a real post?
so if i'm reading this right, your phone camera sucks, is huge, and you have either no facebook, or very non-caring facebook friends?
My friends and family and I bond over photos from festivals and vacations, and we talk and share experiences we've had. Who wouldn't want that?
What if she took an extra twenty seconds to save a better shot, uploaded it for her friends to see, and then spent the next hour enjoying the concert? I find that more plausible than a subconscious manifestation of depression and vanity due to an addiction to social networking.
rudieboy77
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I noticed there were chairs in the concert hall, I have never been to a concert with chairs.
I care about his photos.
most of the time
Why do people take pictures? Why do people take stuff places? Why do people do certain stuff and things? You're entire argument is so incredibly nuanced at this point that you come off as a crazy person.
so everyone standing around her should have to be distracted by her making a big spectacle on her phone for 5 minutes? why is this ok but texting during a movie is not?
kitchenmotors
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Well, considering I took photography classes in high school/college and continued to do photography as a hobby in my 20's, I doubt it. And I doubt taking a photo for a few seconds ruined anyones experience, and if they complained about it... I would put my phone away. If anything, someone who is extremely tall and standing right in front of me or pushing through the crowd as the show starts is more of a burden than taking a 5 second snap of the show.
I care about his photos. I have friends and family that like to talk to me about photos I take and what they take.
This has to be a joke. People don't actually think this way do they?
vas_a_morir
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If it didn't show her friends lamenting with anguished faces over the picture, I might go with you on this. However, they are selling those reactions from her friends as a benefit of the camera phone. This phone will make your friends feel jealous, and the reason they feel this way is because of the impressive zoom and in-phone editing that creates the illusion that you are closer than you actually are.
Well, how else do you read those "fuck, my day is ruined due to my burning jealousy" looks during each of her friends' fun-packed social outings?
Forceatowulf
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Not at all. All of my freinds have facebook and twitter and they don't run into fountains. I was just showing an example of what being a slave to your device can lead to, and the road my generation and the one succeeding us is going down. You think she's the only one to fuck herself up because she wasn't paying attention? You want me to bring up the automobile accidents that occur each year because people just HAVE to tweet/message/text some garbage to their shitty friends, which most of whom aren't even really their fucking friends?! You want to go down that road, son? I didn't think so...
I like how having your phone on during a movie is totally rude, but you didn't mention having your phone on when people are talking to you, makes me think it's no biggie in your eyes. Guess what, it's just as rude.
I'm not seeing that at all. Definitely an old man yelling at cloud moment for you.
Theatres are generally a quieter venue than concerts. When you see a bright blue screen and hear someone tapping on their keyboard, it's much more distracting than one of hundreds of people taking a quick picture at an already loud and chaotic concert.
She didn't make a big spectacle on her phone for five minutes. In the thirty second commercial, she lifted a device the size of her hand to eye level, took a shot, adjusted it, and then pocketed the device. It's entire possible that the brief change in posture was more distracting than a throng of people dancing and cheering, but I didn't attend this hypothetical concert and have no real way of knowing.
I could understand the frustration if this was actual footage of someone recording a concert on their iPad for an hour, but it's such a minor action embellished even further due to its advertorial nature that I can't understand the consternation.
kitchenmotors
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I didn't say anything about that because you threw the fucking movie thing out of nowhere. I don't like it when I'm talking to people and they're not paying attention and using their phone. That's just as rude. Don't put words in my mouth.
You and gryz are a match made in heaven.
yeah man fuck nostalgia who the hell would ever want to remember moments by looking through a photo album
it's pretty clear in the commercial, being unable to understand subtext is not really something to boast about
kitchenmotors
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ITT: People who have actually never been to a concert.
I'm not sure I follow or agree.
It does annoy me a bit when people mess with their phone while aimlessly walk or drive, and constant status updates are a bit over the top. But that? That would be the proper use for social networking. That's a big event for her, she's in the front row, and her friends apparently care.
It does annoy me a bit when people mess with their phone while aimlessly walk or drive, and constant status updates are a bit over the top. But that? That would be the proper use for social networking. That's a big event for her, she's in the front row, and her friends apparently care.
This is the most pure yelling out clouds moment or seen in awhile.
Back in the day, I'm sure people complained about certain people coming home and telling them stories of all the cool stuff they've been up to. Complained that these people were showing off, validating themselves, making others feel bad, etc. The only difference now is technology makes that process more immediate, with more fidelity, and people have the ability to tell those stories to 1000s of more people.
Nothing has changed with this generation. Tech and the Internet now just makes everyone more aware. And Instead of the one person at the coffee table being annoyed at that one friend telling cool stories, now you have fleets of annoyed individuals around the world sad at everyone they see in commercials and Facebook being way more social than they could ever imagine. And really it's this nosiness and annoyance of other people and their business that is the problem of every generation
Back in the day, I'm sure people complained about certain people coming home and telling them stories of all the cool stuff they've been up to. Complained that these people were showing off, validating themselves, making others feel bad, etc. The only difference now is technology makes that process more immediate, with more fidelity, and people have the ability to tell those stories to 1000s of more people.
Nothing has changed with this generation. Tech and the Internet now just makes everyone more aware. And Instead of the one person at the coffee table being annoyed at that one friend telling cool stories, now you have fleets of annoyed individuals around the world sad at everyone they see in commercials and Facebook being way more social than they could ever imagine. And really it's this nosiness and annoyance of other people and their business that is the problem of every generation
kitchenmotors
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And does the Nokia Lumia 1020 have a really good camera? I have a 3 year old Canon powershot that's pretty bad at low light, lower MP, etc. Sort of in the market for a camera. If that phone is significantly better and it has a solid battery life, I'd get one. It's a huge selling point. Basically smart phone cameras are good at poor quality up close photos (people, food) and handle focus, lighting, and motion poorly.
except instead of cool stories of far off adventures it's a picture of some buttered toast with 200 likes.
you really don't think all this social media can lead to people being more self centered ?
for the record I use twitter but not facebook
vas_a_morir
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Social media is a malignant addiction; one that presents itself as the solution to the problem it causes, like gambling. You use social media more and more to feel like you are important and popular, or to at least create a grandiose self-portrait of your own maximum potential realized in order to make yourself seem more appealing to other people. Sometimes out of longing, sometimes out of spite... we put our best foot forward. The problem is, everybody else does the same. You see all these great interesting things everyone else is doing, and it makes you reflect on your own life. When you get a little older, you start to see other people making great strides in their careers after college, which also can make you feel inadequate.
Most people never realize it, but I became aware of these issues when I was doing qualitative consumer research for an advertising campaign for an ISP. I read journal after journal, and more importantly, interviewed and observed a ton of people. They all said the same thing, without realizing they were saying it "I use Facebook to make myself appear better than I actually am, under the guise that I'm sharing my life story with friends who assuredly will be vicariously happy for me."
Almost everybody has Facebook friends for whom they cannot feel vicariously happy; people whose success does not feel like your own success. I suggest users who have such people on their Facebook remove them. But then, you'd have probably 6 people on your Facebook, and you could likely contact them through other more intimate means.
No, it's always been annoying and intrusive. The only difference now is that it's instantaneous.
I used to go on holidays or out somewhere and there would be a group of people spending more time taking photos, arranging photos and posing than actually interacting with the place they're actually at. They'd fill up photo albums with their photographic trophies and show them off at the earliest opportunity.
I used to go on holidays or out somewhere and there would be a group of people spending more time taking photos, arranging photos and posing than actually interacting with the place they're actually at. They'd fill up photo albums with their photographic trophies and show them off at the earliest opportunity.
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I am 33 years old and this thread is stupid. Facebook, Social Media and communities as well as smartphones which actually can access all that stuff is fucking fantastic.
kitchenmotors
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You know, when I was younger my mother never took photos of vacations or me growing up. Now I find it really annoying, because I have no photos of myself when I was younger. You bet your ass that when I end up with adopting a child with significant other, I'll be taking photos nonstop of vacations or just out and about. There's nothing wrong with this or sharing them.
Yup. If my mother had a smartphone back then I bet I'd have a lot more pics now.
Also If im going to a new place you bet your ass I will be taking picture of that place. Why not?
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