See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personaparrotbeak said:
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personaparrotbeak said:
Halycon said:Is there a term for how people behave differently depending on their situations. Like say, their behavior at work versus their behavior at home versus their behavior online? It seems like one of those concepts that would have an easy identifier. It's hard to look for papers discussing this exact topic.
October 20, 2009
Op-Ed Columnist
Where the Wild Things Are
By DAVID BROOKS
In Homers poetry, every hero has a trait. Achilles is angry. Odysseus is cunning. And so was born one picture of character and conduct.
In this view, what you might call the philosophers view, each of us has certain ingrained character traits. An honest person will be honest most of the time. A compassionate person will be compassionate.
These traits, as they say, go all the way down. They shape who we are, what we choose to do and whom we befriend. Our job is to find out what traits of character we need to become virtuous.
But, as Kwame Anthony Appiah, a Princeton philosopher, notes in his book Experiments in Ethics, this philosophers view of morality is now being challenged by a psychologists view. According to the psychologists view, individuals dont have one thing called character.
The psychologists say this because a centurys worth of experiments suggests that peoples actual behavior is not driven by permanent traits that apply from one context to another. Students who are routinely dishonest at home are not routinely dishonest at school. People who are courageous at work can be cowardly at church. People who behave kindly on a sunny day may behave callously the next day when it is cloudy and they are feeling glum. Behavior does not exhibit what the psychologists call cross-situational stability.
The psychologists thus tend to gravitate toward a different view of conduct. In this view, people dont have one permanent thing called character. We each have a multiplicity of tendencies inside, which are activated by this or that context. As Paul Bloom of Yale put it in an essay for The Atlantic last year, we are a community of competing selves. These different selves are continually popping in and out of existence. They have different desires, and they fight for control bargaining with, deceiving, and plotting against one another.
The philosophers view is shaped like a funnel. At the bottom, there is a narrow thing called character. And at the top, the wide ways it expresses itself. The psychologists view is shaped like an upside-down funnel. At the bottom, there is a wide variety of unconscious tendencies that get aroused by different situations. At the top, there is the narrow story we tell about ourselves to give coherence to life.
The difference is easy to recognize on the movie screen. Most movies embrace the character version. The hero is good and conquers evil. Spike Jonzes new movie adaptation of Where the Wild Things Are illuminates the psychological version.
At the beginning of the movie, young Max is torn by warring impulses he cannot control or understand. Part of him loves and depends upon his mother. But part of him rages against her.
In the midst of turmoil, Max falls into a primitive, mythical realm with a community of Wild Things. The Wild Things contain and re-enact different pieces of his inner frenzy. One of them feels unimportant. One throws a tantrum because his love has been betrayed. They embody his different tendencies.
Many critics have noted that, in the movie version, the Wild Things are needlessly morose and whiney. But in one important way, the movie is better than the book. In the book, Max effortlessly controls the Wild Things by taming them with the magic trick of staring into all their yellow eyes without blinking once.
In the movie, Max wants to control the Wild Things. The Wild Things in turn want to be controlled. They want him to build a utopia for them where they wont feel pain. But in the movie, Max fails as king. He lacks the power to control his Wild Things. The Wild Things come to recognize that he isnt really a king, and maybe there are no such things as kings.
In the philosophers picture, the good life is won through direct assault. Heroes use reason to separate virtue from vice. Then they use willpower to conquer weakness, fear, selfishness and the dark passions lurking inside. Once they achieve virtue they do virtuous things.
In the psychologists version, the good life is won indirectly. People have only vague intuitions about the instincts and impulses that have been implanted in them by evolution, culture and upbringing. There is no easy way to command all the wild things jostling inside.
But it is possible to achieve momentary harmony through creative work. Max has all his Wild Things at peace when he is immersed in building a fort or when he is giving another his complete attention. This isnt the good life through heroic self-analysis but through mundane, self-forgetting effort, and through everyday routines.
Appiah believes these two views of conduct are in conversation, not conflict. But it does seem were in one of those periods when words like character fall into dispute and change their meaning.
parrotbeak said:
Thank you, this is more or less what I was thinking of.idahoblue said:
YES! This is exactly what I wanted, thank you very much.You might be interested in this article from NY Times. I'll quote it here:
The way it was written was very verbose and gave the impression that the writer wasn't from any recent decade. If anyone knows the exact quote or who said it, please let me know!I don't cite people because I couldn't care less that they arrived at the same thoughts as I did.
Halycon said:Another question, more or less unrelated, I know of a quote that goes something like this:
The way it was written was very verbose and gave the impression that the writer wasn't from any recent decade. If anyone knows the exact quote or who said it, please let me know!
Yes, I remember the first name was Ludwig. I think he's the one. Although, yes, the quote was quite terse.Salazar said:Wittgenstein strongly felt, and I believe he said, something really rather close to that, but he would not have been verbose in expressing it. The opposite, most likely.
Salazar said:It's funny that he was, initially at least, under the tutelage and care of Russellsomeone so voluminously concerned with the history of philosophyand he remained so radically indifferent to it. Maybe profitably indifferent to it.
Moral of story: Wittgenstein was badass.
Wow this guy is amazing :lolJust about at the time of the Armistice his father had died, and Wittgenstein inherited the bulk of his fortune. He came to the conclusion, however, that money is a nuisance to a philosopher, so he gave every penny of it to is brother and sisters. Consequently he was unable to pay the fare from Vienna to the Hague, and was far too proud to accept it from me. ... He must have suffered during this time hunger and considerable privation, though it was very seldom that he could be induced to say anything about it, as he had the pride of Lucifer. At last his sister decided to build a house, and employed him as an architect. This gave him enough to eat for several years, at the end of which he returned to Cambridge as a don...
I'll pick it up the next time I'm at B&N.Salazar said:Read Ray Monk's biography. It is astonishing. Harrowing, yes, because he spent great stretches of his life in moods of profound anxiousness, pain, and self-doubt, but it is a wonderful story.
Halycon said:I'll pick it up the next time I'm at B&N.
Also, I'm having trouble finding the exact quote, do you have any idea where exactly it might be? Probably in an interview or something?
I'll look into that. thanks.Salazar said:I'll have a think and a rummage and get back to you. An instance that reflects the attitude is the rejection of his BA thesis by the examiners at Cambridge because, being a characteristically spare assertion of his propositions, it lacked the scholarly attributions: the acknowledgments that this idea had come from there, and that such a thought had been passed from so-and-so to so-and-so. Wittgenstein raged about it, calling the decision stupid and beastly.
1) I've used Windows 7 RC for a few months now with no problems. Games I played include Dragon Age, WoW, War/Starcraft, EVE Online, TF2, Heroes of Newerth, GGPO, SFIV, League of Legends, Dragonica and Guild Wars.Im buying my girl friend a new PC and I need some help.
1) Is Windows 7 any good for gaming? mostly for steam games like TF2. Or should I get Vista?
2) How do I know if I need a 32 or a 64 bit operating system?
fifasnipe2224 said:Im buying my girl friend a new PC and I need some help.
1) Is Windows 7 any good for gaming? mostly for steam games like TF2. Or should I get Vista?
2) How do I know if I need a 32 or a 64 bit operating system?
JodyAnthony said:What is the proper way to do an emoticon in parentheses?
is it
"blah blah blah (blah blah blah!"
or
"blah blah blah (blah blah blah!)"
tenritsu said:1) There isn't going to be a huge (or even) noticeable difference to be honest. However, Windows 7 is a much better usage experience so get it anyways.
2) Generally, if you're going to have 4 gb or more ram anything more than 3.5 gigs, get for 64 bit. My advice though? there's really no reason to go 32 bit now.
Depends what program you're trying to do this in. In Firefox you can go to View -> Character Encoding and force it to use another set.faridmon said:how can i make Chinese or Japanese characters spear? it only appears in boxes and numbers
faridmon said:how can i make Chinese or Japanese characters spear? it only appears in boxes and numbers
NGAMER9 said:Hopefully someone can help me with this. How are you supposed to pronounce caramel? Like care-uh-mel? care-mel? car-mul?
I've heard it so many different ways. Are they accepted variants, or is there one way for it to be pronounced?
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Is David Haye as fucking doomed as I hope he is ?
Supply of attractive girls is higher than the number of horny sitcom producers.saiftk said:Why do attractive girls do porn? I mean, I understand the ones that look like corpses doing it.
But girls like these........
I mean, what's stopping them from blowing a producer of tv shows and getting a sitcom or something. It's not like doing a sitcom needs immense talent does it? Wouldn't having sex to get a job be better than having sex as a job?
Wikipedia says it's "industrial alcohol".sazabirules said:At the end of Drunken Master II, what is Jackie Chan drinking in the factory that spews fire? Does it contain alcohol, I feel dumb for not knowing what it is.
Yeah, probably the browser trying to load too many images at once and giving up on some that don't come quick enough. So it shows the alt text instead.cosmicblizzard said:Why do certain poster's avatars disappear sometimes and all it says is "_____'s Avatar"? Is that a problem with the page loading?
fifasnipe2224 said:here is what im thinking of getting
CPU intel core 2 duo E8400 3Ghz 64bit
Hard Drive 1TB
MOTHERBOARD Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2H Intel G41 Chipset with PCIe slot DDR2 SATA/IDE MB w/ Built-in X4500 Graphic Core 4
MEMORY 4GB 2GBx2 PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory Corsair or Major Brand
VIDEO NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 16X PCI Express -23 Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA
Any advice?
My guess is it was meant to be another future equality thing. If women are wearing pants on the ship, they can be Mr., too. Just something they didn't really stick with.ckohler said:In Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn, why does Kirk call Kirstie Alley's character "Mr. Saavik", when she is female?
You just proved that God exists.chase said:This isn't a question, but anyway...
I was random-paging wikipedia and got Jesus the Christ followed by Bethlehem. I'm a bit scared now.
OgTheClever said:I don't think this is a stupid question but it's probably not worth making a thread over.
Basically, why do Japanese games use some English text? The best example of this is that the RPGs usually seem to use HP and MP, even though the rest of it is in the original language. Also I was just watching a video of Demon's Souls (Jap Version) and it came up with 'You Died' in English.
B!TCH said:My other best friend is a guy who tried to sleep with me a week or so ago - it's a very strange time for me indeed; I can't trust my best friends and thus have no one who I can talk to about this.
bjork said:Invite them both over, initiate a 3-way, then slip quietly out of the bed and let them find one another?
megashock5 said:Has anyone hear ever purchased a music video from iTunes, and converted it to just audio? If so, how's the audio quality.
I realize this sounds ridiculous, but I'm after the "single" version of a certain song and iTunes only has the (much lamer) album version - but they have the video, which is of the single version. I'd be willing to pay the extra 50 cents if it worked.
Make any sense?
B!TCH said:You could rip the audio with a program like audacity. The quality won't be the best but it's better than nothing. You could save money by recording the audio from a site like YouTube.
B!TCH said:Huh?? Real advice please :\
bjork said:Take out the 3-way part and set them up with each other?
B!TCH said:Why are you doing this to me?
Protip: my male friend is gay. He isn't into girls and even if he was he wouldn't want to date my female friend.
B!TCH said:Why are you doing this to me?
Protip: my male friend is gay. He isn't into girls and even if he was he wouldn't want to date my female friend.
bjork said:Maybe he's bi and just doesn't know it yet. This question probably deserved its own thread, sir.
Chrono said:He wouldn't want to date her, and you wouldn't want to date her.
Poor girl is an ugly one, isn't she.![]()
BTW, are you bi? Because otherwise him trying to sleep with you has to be one of the most awkward (or traumatizing?) experiences in your life. Did he just jump you? :lol