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[ScHlAuChi]

Brother, just start development for something less power than a rtx 5090 or even a ps5 and work from there
Everyone HAS to do optimization at every moment because the horsepower it's not unlimited, even when you have a rtx 5090 and Ryzen 7 3d
what devs don't understand is that people don't buy gpu like rtx 5090 and best cpu on the market to make their lives better, they buy because they expect a certain level of performance and quality and when they don't have they get angry

No, YOU dont understand! No one develops for a RTX5090 - developers make the games for consoles first and formost as those are fixed platforms. That´s what those games are optimized for!

And they ARE getting angry, it's not just a broken bastard from a third world shithole like me who can't have what i want

And do you think getting angry will change anything?
Do you think attacking developers will convince their publishers who only care about money to think different?
Come on now, are you THAT naive?

Oh, and btw, if you think next generation it's going to get better you should look to the rumors, it appears that consoles will be WORSE than we have today with sony launching it's own portable (just look at recently launched low power mode of the ps5) and switch 2 selling like hot cakes or water in the desert

The Sony handheld and the PS6 are two different things, the handheld is made to play PS4 and downscaled PS5 games, NOT PS6 games!

So devs better find way to optimize their shit or find another job

Says who? You? A random loudmouth nobody on a game forum?
Devs do what they are being told to do by their owners - the publishers that pay them.
They decide who has a job and who doesnt, not some complainer on the internet!

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I love this man. No one gets nerds raging like this absolute hunk!

 

[Landr300]

No, YOU dont understand! No one develops for a RTX5090 - developers make the games for consoles first and formost as those are fixed platforms. That´s what those games are optimized for!

even a ps5
OR EVEN A PS5

And do you think getting angry will change anything?

no, but refund will

The Sony handheld and the PS6 are two different things, the handheld is made to play PS4 and downscaled PS5 games, NOT PS6 games!

not what the rumors are saying, they're saying that portable is a ps6, you're taking this from your delusional mind

Says who? You? A random loudmouth nobody on a game forum?

no sir, the simple logic, devs will have to work with worse platforms, if they continue to launch shit they will not sell, simple like that

 

[ScHlAuChi]

no, but refund will

Refunding will teach them a lesson and work for sure!
I heard stomping with your feet will also work!

not what the rumors are saying, they're saying that portable is a ps6, you're taking this from your delusional mind

Have fun with your rumors

no sir, the simple logic, devs will have to work with worse platforms, if they continue to launch shit they will not sell, simple like that

Reality Check:

GTA Trilogy Remaster Sells 10 Million, T2 Promises Higher Quality for Future GTA Releases

GTA Trilogy The Definitive Edition has been a success, but T2 is still promising to do better with future GTA releases.

wccftech.com

 

[Landr300]

Refunding will teach them a lesson and work for sure!

yes, refund will make them continues to receive their salaries, we dont know how but will

are you that dumb?

Have fun with your rumors

have fun with with your delusion

Reality Check:

GTA Trilogy Remaster Sells 10 Million, T2 Promises Higher Quality for Future GTA Releases

GTA Trilogy The Definitive Edition has been a success, but T2 is still promising to do better with future GTA releases.

wccftech.com

what?

1- first we dont know how many where salled at full price

2- ALL of those games already paid itself

3- its fucking rockstar

4- even being rockstar the reception was so bad that they cancelled a remaster in the same way of the RDR1

5- those games where not running bad despite all the other issues

 

[Zathalus]

Lack of optimization in modern titles is a totally overblown issue. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but look, of the biggest releases this year:

Hades 2 - fine.
Expedition 33 - fine.
Oblivion - bad.
Silksong - fine.
Split fiction - fine.
Avowed - fine.
MH Wilds - bad.
KC2 - fine.
Arc raiders - fine.
Doom TDA - fine.
BF6 - fine.
Silent hill f - fine.
MGS3 - bad
Outer Worlds 2 - mixed bag.
Borderlands 4 - bad.
AC shadows - fine.

The console exclusives like DK, GoY, and DS2 were all great as well. 2024 was much the same.

Look badly optimised games have always existed, they always will, but let's not pretend the entire industry has forgotten how to optimise games or make good looking games. Call it out where you see it, but don't blow your top off when the game uses forward looking ray tracing and thus performs worse. Or throw all developers under the bus when publishers and managers are the ones that call the shots.

 

[Landr300]

Lack of optimization in modern titles is a totally overblown issue. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but look, of the biggest releases this year:

Hades 2 - fine.
Expedition 33 - fine.
Oblivion - bad.
Silksong - fine.
Split fiction - fine.
Avowed - fine.
MH Wilds - bad.
KC2 - fine.
Arc raiders - fine.
Doom TDA - fine.
BF6 - fine.
Silent hill f - fine.
MGS3 - bad
Outer Worlds 2 - mixed bag.
Borderlands 4 - bad.
AC shadows - fine.

The console exclusives like DK, GoY, and DS2 were all great as well. 2024 was much the same.

Look badly optimised games have always existed, they always will, but let's not pretend the entire industry has forgotten how to optimise games or make good looking games. Call it out where you see it, but don't blow your top off when the game uses forward looking ray tracing and thus performs worse. Or throw all developers under the bus when publishers and managers are the ones that call the shots.

exp 33 was bad, maybe not bad like the others but bad anyway

avowed was the same of outer world 2, maybe because dindt make a lot of success it did not receive the same attention

doom was exclusive of RT gpus and some say that the game did not sell well because of that

ac shadows was the worse optimized ac game but at least was very beautiful

 

[ScHlAuChi]

yes, refund will make them continues to receive their salaries, we dont know how but will
are you that dumb?

I worked at a publisher in the past, I know how they operate!
Unless the refund rate is extremly high they wont do shit!
And your 60$ aint paying for their salary, so your refund will do absolutely nothing!

what?
1- first we dont know how many where salled at full price

They sold 10 million, it doesnt matter at what price.
You claimed the devs will lose their job when they dont optimize, yet this clearly isnt the case here.

2- ALL of those games already paid itself

And what does that have to do with your claim about unoptimized games not selling? Nothing!

3- its fucking rockstar

....and? Unoptimized shit is unoptimized shit! According to you that shouldnt sell!

4- even being rockstar the reception was so bad that they cancelled a remaster in the same way of the RDR1

I have no idea what you are talking about!

5- those games where not running bad despite all the other issues

Look all over the internet, there were people just like you complaining about it.
And despite that and alllll the refunding that must have happend, it still sold 10 Million!
So did they learn anything from that? Certainly not!

 

[Landr300]

Lack of optimization in modern titles is a totally overblown issue. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but look, of the biggest releases this year:

Hades 2 - fine.
Expedition 33 - fine.
Oblivion - bad.
Silksong - fine.
Split fiction - fine.
Avowed - fine.
MH Wilds - bad.
KC2 - fine.
Arc raiders - fine.
Doom TDA - fine.
BF6 - fine.
Silent hill f - fine.
MGS3 - bad
Outer Worlds 2 - mixed bag.
Borderlands 4 - bad.
AC shadows - fine.

The console exclusives like DK, GoY, and DS2 were all great as well. 2024 was much the same.

Look badly optimised games have always existed, they always will, but let's not pretend the entire industry has forgotten how to optimise games or make good looking games. Call it out where you see it, but don't blow your top off when the game uses forward looking ray tracing and thus performs worse. Or throw all developers under the bus when publishers and managers are the ones that call the shots.

just to give you an exemple of what iam talking abou, the rtx 3050 6gb was launched in 2024, she was and still is salled like a gaming gpu, she cant run well most of those games i quoted, or you cant run at all

 

[ScHlAuChi]

Lack of optimization in modern titles is a totally overblown issue. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but look, of the biggest releases this year:

Dont try to confuse them with facts!
Facts dont matter anymore - what matters is who screams loudest!
We live in a time where negativity and controversy thrives thanks to Social Media.
All those complainers think they are smarter than the people whos product they consume - becasue they watched some dude on Youtube telling them so.

 

[Landr300]

And your 60$ aint paying for their salary, so your refund will do absolutely nothing!

tell me brother, wtf do you think that is paying their salaries? jesus?

They sold 10 million, it doesnt matter at what price.

yes, its matter, we need to know how much it cost to made a game and what he gained to say it was a success, simple say that 10m was a success its pure bullshit, it could have salled everything at 1 dollar for what we know

....and? Unoptimized shit is unoptimized shit! According to you that shouldnt sell!

god, the guy is really dumb, he wants to compare fucking rockstar with the rest of the industry, and even rockstar is not immunne to selling bad because of unoptimized trash

I have no idea what you are talking about!

thats the point, you have no ideia what you're talking about, they want to do a remaster of the RDR1 in the same way of that collection, with better illumination and shit, they cancelled it after the reception and launched the remaster we get

Red Dead Redemption, GTA IV Remasters Shelved After GTA Trilogy Debacle - Kotaku

Sources tell Kotaku that Rockstar Games is focused on GTA 6 and not the past, for now

kotaku.com

And despite that and alllll the refunding that must have happend, it still sold 10 Million!

like i said, we dont know how much they made with those 10m because we dont know at what price they have been sold, you cant take basic logic

 

[Landr300]

just remember folks that its this kind of person who in the industry right now, the guy is so freaking dumb that i think hes trolling me, it cant be real

 

[Landr300]

Dont try to confuse them with facts!

fact? the fact is they launched a gpu in the 2024, selled as gaming gpu that cant play game in 2025, thats the only fact you need to know

 

[DeepEnigma]

Patrick Bateman from Temu

 

[roosnam1980]

a few folks here feel THREATened by this guy...................

 

[Zathalus]

exp 33 was bad, maybe not bad like the others but bad anyway

avowed was the same of outer world 2, maybe because dindt make a lot of success it did not receive the same attention

doom was exclusive of RT gpus and some say that the game did not sell well because of that

ac shadows was the worse optimized ac game but at least was very beautiful

How was E33 bad? It ran fine and looked good. Avowed was also fine, it's demanding but has good use of RT, almost no stutters and amazing lods due to nanite. Why is Doom using RT a problem? It looks great and is significantly better vs Eternal. Just because something is more demanding doesn't mean the game is poorly optimised. Same for AC shadows, it's the best looking AC game by far with really impressive RT. Demanding =\= unoptimised.

Lack of optimization in modern titles is a totally overblown issue. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but look, of the biggest releases this year:

just to give you an exemple of what iam talking abou, the rtx 3050 6gb was launched in 2024, she was and still is salled like a gaming gpu, she cant run well most of those games i quoted, or you cant run at all

The 3050 6GB has a measly amount of VRAM, less than the freaking PS4. It's only slightly more powerful as the PS4 Pro, a console that came out 9 years ago. Of course it's going to run those games like shit, the expect sting should be sub 1080p at 30fps. Blame Nvidia for releasing a shit product.