badcrumble
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Certainly not - I didn't intend it to be. I'm just saying that if you feel crummy after getting a shot, there's an explanation for it that isn't "omg the shot gave me the flu."Suairyu said:
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Time For The Flu Shot-Recommended For Everyone This Year
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Zoe
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ScrabbleDude said:
You're not talking about the Redskins girl which is likely a hoax or all in her head, are you?
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=2150
For the USA:ScrabbleDude said:
A summary of vaccine related complications is on the following site. One note for USA studies was "In a study of more than 250,000 children aged <18 years, the investigators did not identify risk for any important adverse events after TIV.3". Australia stopped giving a particular brand of the vaccine to children less than 5 years of age due to reported febrile seizures after the vaccination.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/vaccine_safety.htm
ScrabbleDude
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That's the girl I was talking about. I don't buy that it's all in her head. I understand the logic of them thinking so though. She hears that she can run normally and walk backwards normally and all of a sudden she can, but I just don't see it as being in her head. And I don't think it was a hoax. That girl would need to be a fantastic actor.Zoe said:
Dead Prince
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I think the last shot I got was when I started college or something. maybe. but that was like 7 years ago. Haven't had one since.
Scheduled to get mine at work next Tuesday.
This business about everyone else getting the flu shot so some feeling they may not need it.. Wouldn't the people that got the flu shot potentially still get the flu and still be able to transmit it, just that they would presumably already have the necessary immune protection to keep from developing the full virus?
This business about everyone else getting the flu shot so some feeling they may not need it.. Wouldn't the people that got the flu shot potentially still get the flu and still be able to transmit it, just that they would presumably already have the necessary immune protection to keep from developing the full virus?
Zoe
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ScrabbleDude said:
Did you see the update?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpe1u4cKbTk&feature=player_embedded
Ignis Fatuus
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Congratulations on being morons.ScrabbleDude said:
Futureman said:
It is being pushed by the government and the corporate world for economic reasons. Taking care of sick people costs money. People missing work reduces productivity.
I am recommending it because I work in a hospital and I see how miserable for adults and children the flu can be. I have been through it myself. The time and money spent for a flu shot is like insurance, you never know ahead of time whether you will benefit.
Ignis Fatuus
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I'm really sick of irrational and selfish beliefs that put everyone else at risk, and people who harbor such fundamentally misguided ideas are not going to be convinced otherwise because they lack rational basis in the first place. They are operating on another plane of thought. Just like the Autism parents.Dechaios said:
J Tourettes
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Is it normal for most anyone to get flu shots in the US? In the UK I think it's the very young and the very old we dish them out to.
RE: the "pharmacutical companies just want you to get them to line their pockets" arguments. It's a standard practice amongst all countries with public health care services, too. Those governments would leap at the chance if they could justify not spending money on free vaccinations. But they don't. So can your stupid paranoia and stop playing the life of your kids by pretending you know better than the bulk of world scientific reasoning.
And anyone in between who have conditions that would be agitated by the flu virus. It's very easy to get the jab if you want it.J Tourettes said:
I never have gotten any flu shots nor have my family.
It amuses me how flu is being tolerated here. Only people who seems to get problems are those whom constitution is awful and have forgot to maintain their stamina.
Aka, if you're already so weak, these marketed vaccinations aren't the real solution for your issues against flu.
Though as a northern european we do have stronger resistance to these viruses.
It amuses me how flu is being tolerated here. Only people who seems to get problems are those whom constitution is awful and have forgot to maintain their stamina.
Aka, if you're already so weak, these marketed vaccinations aren't the real solution for your issues against flu.
J Tourettes
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jmdajr said:
Ah, ok thanks. Seemed like overkill if it was recommending everyone but obviously high risk groups make sense.
Found this eloquent jamaican explain that she was faking it all, well worth a watch:jmdajr said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj_7W48CElc&feature=related
I rarely ever got a flu shot as a kid and if I ever did get the flu I was fine. It's a fairly simple virus that people get all the time and are fine afterwards. You may be paranoid about getting sick but for most people it's just a part of life. There's no need to go insulting people who aren't hypochondriacs.Ignis Fatuus said:
badcrumble
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are you afraid of chemtrails and water fluoridation tooManics said:
Hexadecimalt
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Not getting one. Don't remember if I ever have. I have family who are in medicine and was told as I don't usually get it that I shouldn't worry about it. Even if they did recommend it, I doubt I would have gotten one, as you have to pay where I live and I'm not wasting money on one.
Que Smug/Self-RighteousGAF comments about how I'm irresponsible and bringing down the human race by not injecting this seasons pharmaceutical product into my blood.
Que Smug/Self-RighteousGAF comments about how I'm irresponsible and bringing down the human race by not injecting this seasons pharmaceutical product into my blood.
ScrabbleDude
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Just spent the time to watch this. It's interesting, but still questionable. I mean the expert they had on to say she didn't have the disease had never even met her.Zoe said:
Dechaios said:
I agree the odds are in your favor. But getting the vaccine doesn't make my ODDS worse either. In fact it's the opposite.
I wonder if this vaccine fear just a modern thing. I'm thinking years ago people wished they had the resources to take advantage of such medical advances.
Neuromancer
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I'm getting one this weekend (free through my mother-in-law, who's a nurse). I would rather have a sore arm for a few days than get the flu, which feels awful.
I can see both sides of the issue, though. Honestly, if I didn't get one so easily and for free, I'd probably skip it too.
I can see both sides of the issue, though. Honestly, if I didn't get one so easily and for free, I'd probably skip it too.
ScrabbleDude
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Yes, but at least with my family, we are very careful when we are sick. We make sure our hands are always washed if we cough in them. We don't touch other family members or shake hands unless absolutely necessary. And we don't visit grandparents and other elderly people because passing that shit on to someone older is a dick move.Manics said:
ScrabbleDude
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I don't know, but I will tell you that the flu vaccine is the only vaccination we don't do. Our kids get everything else. We don't skimp on the smallpox vaccination or the tetanus vaccination. I don't personally want to give the kids the chickenpox vaccination though.jmdajr said:
Edit: And yes, when I am elderly I will be getting the flu shot.
TheLastCandle
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Getting mine today. Gotta keep the herd immunity up!
Dechaios said:
Yep, immediately you get attacked when you suggest you don't need the flu shot. My wife and I are in good health, both our kids aged 5 and 3 are in good health. Nobody in our family got the flu shot ever, and we don't plan on it again this year. We've discussed with our pediatrician and he's ok with it...but I guess the posters in GAF know better.
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