Titan X Launch / Review / Tears Thread
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Hawk269
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I was able to get my Water Blocks on my 2 cards and once I was done leak testing and working out air bubbles I was able to do some testing and overclocking. I decided to grow a pair and flash my cards with a Evga SC Bios that allows a power target to 121%. With that and being on water I was able to hit a 1520mhz boost clock in Valley!!! For 3dMark11 it did not like that high of a clock, but was able to do benchmarks at 1493mhz boost with no issues.
It worked out so well, I was able to take the No. 2 position on Firestricke Ultra HD Benchmark for SLI Cards. The No.1 spot is only 25 points ahead of me. I tried a few things and could not get my score higher, but to be fair, 7 out of the top 10 are using 5960k CPU's where I have a 3930k.
http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+strike+3dmark+score+ultra+preset/version+1.1/2+gpu
It worked out so well, I was able to take the No. 2 position on Firestricke Ultra HD Benchmark for SLI Cards. The No.1 spot is only 25 points ahead of me. I tried a few things and could not get my score higher, but to be fair, 7 out of the top 10 are using 5960k CPU's where I have a 3930k.
http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+strike+3dmark+score+ultra+preset/version+1.1/2+gpu
This is about what I expected... I don't think they will cut anything other than VRAM for the 980 Ti considering Titan X is already purely a gaming card. And yields are probably good with the 28nm node being very mature now.
icecold1983
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Not much salt needed. This card is pretty much a given. I dont think it will be called 980ti tho
viveks86
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Manac0r
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Poached from a Forbes.com article on dx12
"Well thats certainly a dramatic improvement. Lets see how a higher-end Nvidia GPU fares. I remember one of Mantles claims to fame is that it would be much more beneficial for owners of low-end to average hardware. Could enthusiasts see some benefits from DirectX 12? Lets ramp this way up to Nvidias recently released Titan X, a $1000 graphics card built for 4K gaming:
DX11 multi-thread: 2,524,794 draw calls per second
DX12: 14,545,096 draw calls per second
Draw Call/Second Increase: 476%"
Now just waiting for my ASUS to arrive from scan.co.uk (posted today with Saturday delivery). Would turning on hyper threading on my i980x be beneficial for the Titan x?
"Well thats certainly a dramatic improvement. Lets see how a higher-end Nvidia GPU fares. I remember one of Mantles claims to fame is that it would be much more beneficial for owners of low-end to average hardware. Could enthusiasts see some benefits from DirectX 12? Lets ramp this way up to Nvidias recently released Titan X, a $1000 graphics card built for 4K gaming:
DX11 multi-thread: 2,524,794 draw calls per second
DX12: 14,545,096 draw calls per second
Draw Call/Second Increase: 476%"
Now just waiting for my ASUS to arrive from scan.co.uk (posted today with Saturday delivery). Would turning on hyper threading on my i980x be beneficial for the Titan x?
Dictator93
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Why would you turn it off in the first place?
Manac0r
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Caused stuttering in battlefield 4 if I rememember, but haven't played that in ages.. So I really should venture forth back into the bios.
Dictator93
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It makes many many games run better... including Battlefield 4. That must have been a minor bug at some point... for some reason. It should not reduce performance.
Final Verdict
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Iv had it for a year. Works great.
d00d3n
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I got my EVGA SC Titan X today. Was home over lunch installing and making sure that everything worked, but I did not have time to test many games. I am excited to try all the games that had SLI issues last year when I get home. The only issue is ... Bloodborne stands in the way. And Pillars of Eternity I guess. I need more time!
Manac0r
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I have two week off work coming up. I need to micro manage my time between tweaking my new card, playing Bloodborne, Pillars and HoTs. I feel a timetable coming on...
LeeRoyBrown
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Why do people give a damn about benchmarks.
I'm being serious.
What do you actually get out of it?
opticalmace
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Pride?
Yeah, that's the first time I heard of an issue like that. I remember reading that some people disable hyperthreading so they can achieve higher clock speeds - intended for games that wouldn't make use of the hyperthreading anyway.
Personally I've always kept it enabled - the OS is still doing stuff and I usually have things going on my second monitor, so it made sense.
Why do people tune and race cars?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
He's literally better than everyone in the world, except one person.
That's pretty cool.
SymbiantXenos
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Tempted to buy two of these but the better half wouldn't see it my way lol.
jim2point0
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I'm having trouble with my overclocks on this thing.
The temps are staying below 70 degrees at +200 on the core and memory, but I'm still getting display driver crashes. Is there anything I can do to make it more stable? I'm at 110% power.
Is there a way to increase the voltage? Or is that a bad idea?
The temps are staying below 70 degrees at +200 on the core and memory, but I'm still getting display driver crashes. Is there anything I can do to make it more stable? I'm at 110% power.
Is there a way to increase the voltage? Or is that a bad idea?
digitalrelic
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To me, it's just a nice measurement of the performance level of your gaming rig. Generally speaking, benchmarks give a pretty accurate idea of the performance you can expect in games relative to other setups.
Do you have a pic of your setup? Would love to see it.
Ye getting that pass your SO is a hard sell.
My Titan X should arrive today, but with the rumors around a 980 Ti coming this summer, I can't decide whether to keep the Titan X or return it and wait a few more months. If the only thing being cut down is the memory, it is hard to justify the extra $300+ for the Titan when its only differentiator is extra memory that will likely never get used.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Hey guys do you recommend this monitor for 1080p gaming and possibily 4k in medium settings? It is a refurbished unit on sale for $499..
http://www.dealzon.com/deals/acer-xb280hk-28-inch-ultra-hd-led-monitor
http://www.dealzon.com/deals/acer-xb280hk-28-inch-ultra-hd-led-monitor
The rumour is after summer, which probably means autumn, just like the scheduling of 780 Ti (November 2013) following the Titan (February 2013).
So, this year we have releases that probably look like this:
March 2015 ------ Titan X
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June 2015 -------- R9 390(X)
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Autumn 2015 ----- 6GB GM200
It's only a rumour that the 6GB product will be fully enabled (although I think it will be given the delta between GM204 and GM200). Pricing of it will certainly depend on how AMD prices its products. Also, there's no such thing as too much VRAM.
I need advice - I have a single 970 currently and it has been good this far. I have been reading this thread and now I REALLY want this card! trying to convince my BF to let me get it. Is the increase in power worth 1K in this case? I play lots of of games and am looking forward to GTA / Witcher / etc and want to be able to play them as close to max settings and 60 fps as possible..
It's a fun thing to do?
Why are sports cars measured by their 0-60 and quarter mile times?
In gaming or benchmarks? Precision x u can increase the voltage a bit. But to really unlock it you'll have to install a custom BIOS.
michaelius
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If money are an issue then Titan is not optimal - first you pay a lot for huge amount of vram - but to actually use that ram you need to play at 2160p or 2880p at and those resolutions you need 2-3 Titans.
In this case it's better to wait from cheaper 980ti which will come in next few months and we can expect it will be 300-350$ cheaper*.
Of course that card will come after release of TW3/GTA V so if you are fine with paying bit more to get that performance faster and get insane amount of vram that will never run out then Titan X is only option.
CosmicQueso
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It's fun.
Thanks ! Sounds like I will wait patiently for the 980ti. then. if I'm only gaming at 1080p and that makes the Titan overkill, I can't really justify the cost
viveks86
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It's what enthusiasts do. Think of it as an expensive supercar. Wouldn't it drive you crazy if you had no idea how fast it can go? Benchmarking gives you that. And there is a leaderboard for it that turns it into a fun and competitive real world game.
jim2point0
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Gaming. I never had display driver crashes in Far Cry 4 before, so I'm attributing it to the overclock I've applied.
MSI Afterburner seems to lock down the voltage for some reason. I'll give Precision X a try.... though the UI for that is fucking stupid.
I don't think I'll go as far as intalling a custom bios. Dat shit is scary.
That is why I am leaning toward sending my Titan X back. I don't plan to SLI and I likely won't be going over 1440p in the foreseeable future, so I think the 980 Ti will be a much better choice for me.
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
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It's a search for performance on my end. I benchmark all of my cpu's and gpu's to figure out their max stable limits, then I dial those limits back slightly, and start gaming. Its rewarding to buy something like a 970, spend a few nights overclocking it... ultimately ending up with a stable OC that performs in excess of a 980. OC can yield free performance improvement. I underline "can" considering at the end of the day, the gains are limited by how lucky you get in the silicone lottery.
You can also do fun things like undervolt cpu's and still get a stable OC. For example, I supply less voltage to my 2600k compared to it's stock settings, and I'm still able to run it at 4.4Ghz
Understandable, and I'm not about to tell you to hide money from her, but it can be healthy for a relationship when both parties are allowed to set aside a percentage of their earnings to do whatever they please with it. You see, while my wife doesn't mind "gaming-related" purchases, she does mind gas-guzzling sports cars, but thankfully she has no say in the matter because that part of our finances is completely separate. Just saying! ;-)
jim2point0
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Personally, I don't CARE about how high my benchmarks are. However, whenever I buy a new card, I like to run benchmarks just so I can compare them with other people who have the same card. That way I can check my numbers against theirs and make sure my system is up to par. If someone else is scoring much higher but they have a different processor, then I know that MY processor could be a potential bottleneck for my GPU.
It's also a good indication as to how effective your overclocks are.
Thanks for the recommendation. I added 100mV, and the card is running stable at +235 \ +315. I'm punishing it by running Far Cry 4 at 6400x3600 and it still isn't getting hotter than 70 degrees.
Hawk269
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For starters, it is mainly for me a measurement of how my system stacks up to others with the relatively the same hardware. If my scores were so far off then I know that something on my end may be wrong or not operating correctly. Secondly, it is a hobby for me as well. I am not a pro at over clocking, but I do enjoy building systems, water loops etc. To me it is fun and when I able to score within the Top 10 on a world wide leaderboard it is pretty good to know that the time I put into making adjustments etc. is giving me a high score.
Ultimately, benchmarking goes to the back of my mind 2-3 weeks after I buy new equipment because my main reason for getting new parts is to enhance my gaming. I usually like to stress new CPU's or GPU's when I first get them just to find out how much performance I can get out each part, once I know that I usually just play games.
So that is what I get out it. Like other have stated, there are a ton of hobbies where people use scoreboards/lap times what have you to measure how they stack up against others. I don't see what is tripping you up about this?
Hawk269
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What is your card actually hitting volts wise when applying the voltage? In Precision X, go to the menu to show you voltage, then run your game/benchmark and it should show how high the voltage goes.
I'm going to go for water cooling with this build. I'm still waiting on my cards, so I have some time to do my homework and plan things out. Any specific brands you recommend for the components?
For an intro to the basics, I just checked out a few guides. Anything important missing in this one, for example, or do you know of a better one?
http://lifehacker.com/5940236/a-beginners-guide-to-water-cooling-your-computer
Hawk269
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I never read that link you posted, but I find it amusing that the CPU Block and Res they show are the exact same that I have in my system.
Water cooling is very good but can be expensive depending on the parts you buy. You have to decide if you want to go compression fittings or non-compression. That is the first thing you need to decide. Cost is usually higher with compression, but easier in my opinion, where non-compression takes a little more work.
I am about to go to work, so I can't type a lot of stuff up right now, but I will post pics of my set up and list some of the parts I used.
jim2point0
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Firestrike Ultra didn't even get my temps up to 70. What a weak benchmark. Highest I saw the voltage go was 1218. Let me try Far Cry 4 again.
OK. Far Cry 4.
3840x2160
4xTXAA
All ultra + soft shadows
I ran it for about 10 minutes. The temperature stayed 69-70 the whole time and I didn't see the voltage go over 1199.
icecold1983
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Theres lots of games that wont run at 60 fps on a titan at 1440p.
viveks86
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You really should try crysis 3 to see how far it goes. At 4k, you will hit some barriers and push the cards to the max. Keep running around the opening rain sequence, especially on the ramp that connects to the floating platform. Similarly the welcome to the jungle section with all the crazy explosions and grass.
Cutting down the GM200 at the same ratios that the GM204 was cut down for the 970:
2560 shader units: 144 texture units: 80 ROP
6144 MB GDDR5 (5120 @ 280 GB/s, 1024 @ 56 GB/s or two 512MB segments at 28 GB/s)
2.5MB L2
Still pretty beastly.
Got the Titan X installed and have been running some tests.
Highest stable overclock now is 220 core, 400 ram, 112mv voltage, 110 power limit.
Gives me the following in 3DMark Firestrike:
About 1200 less than my 970s in SLI. Worth it for the removed memory limit and lack of SLI headaches.
And Watch Dogs is finally smooth with ultra textures. My white whale. Almost in tears here.
Highest stable overclock now is 220 core, 400 ram, 112mv voltage, 110 power limit.
Gives me the following in 3DMark Firestrike:
About 1200 less than my 970s in SLI. Worth it for the removed memory limit and lack of SLI headaches.
And Watch Dogs is finally smooth with ultra textures. My white whale. Almost in tears here.
jim2point0
Banned
That processor must be a beast. I get about the same GPU score (220,400 when I ran this), but not even close on the Physics.
