Today's music is garbage
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block tower
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exactly. i find it odd that people gauge music being bad or good by whats on the radio. im not entirely sure that "good" music ever was championed on the radio, maybe after the fact, but i doubt most radio stations were ahead of the curve. also people set some insane bar for good music, it is not possible to get a Hendrix, McCartney, Jackson, etc. every generation. there is too much selective hearing going on as well, people remember the good and forget the bad. YouTube and computers also didn't exist in the form they do now in previous decades, so who knows how much shit never made it to listeners because of the lack of diy.
Rukes
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Always been a horrible comparison. "Run The World" is two songs, so of course there will be more people who worked on it.
The original track, "Pon De Floor", has two writers: Diplo and Switch and two producers: Major Lazer (Diplo, Switch and Vybz Kartel) and Afrojack.
For "Run The World", you get these results on Wikipedia:
Writers:
Terius "The-Dream" Nash
Beyoncé Knowles
Wesley Pentz (Diplo)
David Taylor (Switch)
Adidja Palmer (Vybz Kartel, Major Lazer's vocalist for Pon De Floor)
Nick van de Wall (Afrojack)
Producer(s):
Switch
Terius "The-Dream" Nash
Beyoncé Knowles
Shea Taylor
So if you remove all the legal credits to the original song that Beyonce after licensing the original song, and just put who actually made "Run The World" you get 2 writers and 3 producers, which is pretty much in line with standard songs today.
CrookedRain
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I came to the conclusion the other day that there's so much good music out there, it's absolutely overwhelming. I don't know what I'd do without Spotify.
rokkerkory
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I think lots of the crappy music is coming from USA although lots of the good music comes from USA as well.
Lol another "90's kid"
I wish people would just move on from that shit and realize if you a explore a genre your bound to find really good music. You have to look past the bullshit to find the good stuff. Also, don't act like there wasn't a lot of shitty music back then because their was, I was there to experience that time and I remember hearing the worst shit on the radio sometimes I had to throw in a cassette to get rid of that bullshit.
I wish people would just move on from that shit and realize if you a explore a genre your bound to find really good music. You have to look past the bullshit to find the good stuff. Also, don't act like there wasn't a lot of shitty music back then because their was, I was there to experience that time and I remember hearing the worst shit on the radio sometimes I had to throw in a cassette to get rid of that bullshit.
MisterGrey3000
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Lol
I was 12 when it was first born. Luckily I knew nothing about it, and I didn't have access to a reliable video camera.
I used to think "All music today is bad!" when I was a preteen too, but then I grew up.
DemurOnion
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I've been going over my ginormous collection and the only moderately new bands I have are bands from earlier 2000s I think. I care very very little about what comes out. When a band has 4 or so albums I might get interested and also if they show growth and cohesion. We have so much from classical to folk to metal to electronic up to 2000. Stuff beyond that started getting redundant if it wasn't really good and now stuff beyond 2010 is just.... bleak. I barely even know of many decent newer bands these days and honestly I have so much music I don't have the time to care.
More or less the newer bands I do have are electronic or indie rockish type stuff.
If yer saying music is no better or worse I tend to disagree. We are in a dip imo. Things are getting very samey and we have plundered the depths of a large amount of genres.
If you were to go back into the 60s it was insane. You had all those pop bands, folk bands, rock bands, and electronic geniuses like Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, and Klaus Schulze coming into play. If you think todays music even holds a candle to that 65-75 period you are out of your mind imo.
Quote below me is truth. We haven't sorted through it yet but there will never be bands totally like the originals imo nor do they have the same quality MOST of the time. Today's culture reflects the quality somewhat imo and it has taken a plunge. All my opinion but even after sorting through everything I seriously doubt I will care much to what I have now. It's like saying I am going to find a Mozart of today easy peasy. It ain't gonna happen. Same with Beatles and Clash and Cure and Neil Young and King Crimson yadda yadda. There are very few bands today that could even claim to hold a candle to these guys. It's a culture thing I am sure of it.
More or less the newer bands I do have are electronic or indie rockish type stuff.
If yer saying music is no better or worse I tend to disagree. We are in a dip imo. Things are getting very samey and we have plundered the depths of a large amount of genres.
If you were to go back into the 60s it was insane. You had all those pop bands, folk bands, rock bands, and electronic geniuses like Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, and Klaus Schulze coming into play. If you think todays music even holds a candle to that 65-75 period you are out of your mind imo.
Quote below me is truth. We haven't sorted through it yet but there will never be bands totally like the originals imo nor do they have the same quality MOST of the time. Today's culture reflects the quality somewhat imo and it has taken a plunge. All my opinion but even after sorting through everything I seriously doubt I will care much to what I have now. It's like saying I am going to find a Mozart of today easy peasy. It ain't gonna happen. Same with Beatles and Clash and Cure and Neil Young and King Crimson yadda yadda. There are very few bands today that could even claim to hold a candle to these guys. It's a culture thing I am sure of it.
Older music only seems better because it's already been curated. When you have a culture that's become used to having access to everything in an instant, it seems like everything is mediocre because we haven't sorted through it all yet. Truth is there is more amazing music out there than any of us will ever have time to listen to.
There is always an artist/band out there for whatever someone may be looking for. Sometimes, you gotta discover it yourself. Can't wait for that awesome artist to always find your eardrums. On another note, I didn't make it through but 10 seconds of that video because frankly I could give a shit what some little kid on the internet thinks about music in general lol.
Conciliator
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cant spell crap without rap amirite. it must be true because it makes a memorable slogan.
MrCookiepants
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Old music sucks.
MisterGrey3000
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lol
My metal head friend always used that dumb slogan whenever I would play some hip hop around him in high school.
Are there anymore of those corny slogans??
EightBitNate
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Lol I wish this would go viral
That's trash too! Compare it to the tribal rhythms of the stone age....
block tower
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if they would've been transported to present day with corporatism and the internet in full swing, Beethoven and Co. would've had a Pepsi ad song and wore Gaultier sunglasses during his performances at Yankee Stadium.
Ether_Snake
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Holy shit, three "me" rhymes in a row.
condompickle
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young drew carry doesn't know what he's talking about. it's the same shit every generation. although it does suck for kids nowadays.. being born with a rap/pop top 100.. ouch.
why do people keep using this as an argument? there were tons of songs similar to that beyonce song in the 60s and 70s (as shown by that picture on page 2) and there are tons of songs today with good lyrics.
Yup. There's so much out there and this being the age of the internet and all... you'd have to be quite transparent to say otherwise. Seriously there's A LOT of stuff out there from all different genres once you look.
Arkos
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X1000. It's gotta be so much harder to parent as well.
FrankieMcGuire
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Awesome..
radios shipping overview
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Yeah, music has gone strictly downhill since the 90s.
Jason's Ultimatum
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As far as rock,
green day
stone temple pilots
red hot chili peppers
nin
pearl jam
smashing pumpkins
nirvana
offspring
are all better than what get now. Though nin is still relevant today. I know I'm still missing a lot more.
green day
stone temple pilots
red hot chili peppers
nin
pearl jam
smashing pumpkins
nirvana
offspring
are all better than what get now. Though nin is still relevant today. I know I'm still missing a lot more.
block tower
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only old musician i miss is DJ Screw. dude created such an amazing sound, he was the dirty south's Hendrix.
equippedwithtowel
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There's been nothing quite like Sun Kil Moon's Benji. What about the marathon of brillant mindfuckery that is the Knife's Shaking the Habitual or climax-core shit like Swans or GS!YBE? There's some addmittedly more derivative stuff this year as well like Ought or The War on Drugs that still forges a unique and interesting identity. Plus the Dreampop/Shoegaze and (real) Post-Punk revivals are treating me very well.
Any culture that gives me LCD Soundsystem gets a life time pass.
Black Mamba
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Personally, I think what I would consider "good music" and the mainstream have never been further apart.
But that's entirely different from music of today vs music of the past.
18-40 year olds are too tech savvy to be constrained by the mainstream radio scene anymore and thus that scene is forced to cater to 10-18 crowd and 40-55 (or so) crowd and unless it's pop music, it's almost always gong to be what I consider "bad" (just cuz I consider it bad doesn't make it objectively so
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I think there's just as much good to great music, if not more, out there today than at any time period. It's just that it takes work to find it and it's probably not going to be super popular where as in the past it was much more likely to be popular.
The music scene is so different because of the computer. Nirvana isn't possible, anymore. I don't mean the style of music but if there's one band that defined the 90s or first half of the 90s, everyone would say "nirvana." They changed the entire scene (we're talking impact, not quality) and were really the voice of a generation to an extent. That can't happen in today's world. Sure, Nirvana might have broke out and become a success but they never would have had the impact in today's scene as they did in the 90s. The same is true for Miles Davis in Jazz, or The Beatles, or Pink Floyd, or Madonna, or NWA, or anyone else.
We shouldn't be comparing it to the past in these terms because the game has changed so drastically.
edit: There's also the issue that bands today have taken so much from those before. Sure, the guys from the past took from those before them too, but the change was much more drastic than today. Bands today can't escape the fact that a lot has already been done. It's hard for a artists to sound as fresh as Pink Floyd or Madonna, or Radiohead, or whomever else. Hell, Mile Davis invented styles of jazz; it's kind of hard to invent a new style of music now.
But that's entirely different from music of today vs music of the past.
18-40 year olds are too tech savvy to be constrained by the mainstream radio scene anymore and thus that scene is forced to cater to 10-18 crowd and 40-55 (or so) crowd and unless it's pop music, it's almost always gong to be what I consider "bad" (just cuz I consider it bad doesn't make it objectively so
unless it's nickelback
I think there's just as much good to great music, if not more, out there today than at any time period. It's just that it takes work to find it and it's probably not going to be super popular where as in the past it was much more likely to be popular.
The music scene is so different because of the computer. Nirvana isn't possible, anymore. I don't mean the style of music but if there's one band that defined the 90s or first half of the 90s, everyone would say "nirvana." They changed the entire scene (we're talking impact, not quality) and were really the voice of a generation to an extent. That can't happen in today's world. Sure, Nirvana might have broke out and become a success but they never would have had the impact in today's scene as they did in the 90s. The same is true for Miles Davis in Jazz, or The Beatles, or Pink Floyd, or Madonna, or NWA, or anyone else.
We shouldn't be comparing it to the past in these terms because the game has changed so drastically.
edit: There's also the issue that bands today have taken so much from those before. Sure, the guys from the past took from those before them too, but the change was much more drastic than today. Bands today can't escape the fact that a lot has already been done. It's hard for a artists to sound as fresh as Pink Floyd or Madonna, or Radiohead, or whomever else. Hell, Mile Davis invented styles of jazz; it's kind of hard to invent a new style of music now.
Actually he's rhyming black (and crack if we're counting internal rhymes), sack, and track. Doesn't always need to be the very last word on the line.
Extra Sauce
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I'm 32 and all my life there has been great new music to discover. You just have to be open-minded and not remain stuck within the same genre. Also don't judge the quality of music in general based on Top 40 stuff. That's just dumb.
I think music is simply becoming more saturated, due to technology and how anyone with a MacBook can make it now. It's not making it better or worse - I suppose it just makes it harder to find the good stuff. Just like there is a lot more shit these days, I think there has also never been such good music across all genres; what's popular has never really been that great to start with.
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