Although he did point out that arbitration rulings can be vacated when one side withholds a witness, as the NFL did with Pash. It seems as though there's more than enough to overturn Goodell's ruling.
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Although he did point out that arbitration rulings can be vacated when one side withholds a witness, as the NFL did with Pash. It seems as though there's more than enough to overturn Goodell's ruling.
I will say it again (and again)
This is also why the judge can attack the CBA. Just because it was signed between two parties, it does not mean it happened in good faith, or is illegal.
This was mentioned by various lawyers. This has happened in union/corporation CBA's in many other places. The company has plenty of money and can always outlast the Union members. There becomes a point that the members have to capitulate and will agree to anything to get money to live.
They have recently gotten rid of critical voices from their NFL content. Gregg Easterbrook, a huge douche, but regularly critical of the way the NFL was run and was on the concussion stuff pretty early. Bill Simmons was possibly the most critical of Goodell even before Deflategate and went all in on the ineptness of the league on the Ray Rice case and many around it. Keith Olbermann is gone as well and he also was very vociferous in his criticism of Goodell.
Now maybe Easterbrook had run his course, Simmons too expensive and Olbermann not good fit or whatever bullshit excuse but it seems like the NFL is in charge over at Bristol. They will run any story the NFL wish citing League Sources. The same shit reporting that was a major part of the Deflategate narritive where they claimed 11/12 balls were underinflated and despite all evidence to the contrary have never issued a formal correction.
natjjohn
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...feared-patriots-bugging-visitors-locker-room/
Nothing specific, just funny.
Nothing specific, just funny.
Just speaks to how pathetic Manning is and how far inside his head Belichick and Brady got.
natjjohn
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13474523/tony-dungy-clarifies-remarks-new-england-patriots
This article was better
This article was better
DrForester
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If it's from ESPN and about football, there's likely not a shred of truth in there
With the amount of coaches that have cycled through the Patriots system to other teams, how true could that be? I mean, Mangini gave 'em up for spygate, what's to stop him or any other coach from calling them out for that now?
TheLostBigBoss
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1) It's bullshit.
2) It's a common practice in the league, much like dome teams and heat, fucking with headset communication and so on. Just like in baseball, everyone knows that pitchers use illegal substance on a regular basis, the only issue is when someone breaks the illusion and makes it too obvious to the point where the other team is forced to do something about it.
I'm gonna go with #2
DrForester
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I don't know. There's now just as much evidence that the Patriots bug their locker room, as there is that they deflated footballs.
I think we can expect another round of suspensions next week after all this damning evidence.
Kind of like this trash:
That took me a long time to see it.
Tony Dungy is the worst NFL commentator working right now. Defends Vick, attacks Michael Sam, and makes up reasons why his team continually choked against the Patriots. Hey Dungy, how come the Patriots whooped you in Indianapolis as well? It's almost like everyone who got beat by the Patriots has a grudge for some reason. Crazy how that works.
Roberto Duran
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/634512029349453824
I should probably stop looking at ESPN sources.
I should probably stop looking at ESPN sources.
DrForester
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Now I'm even more confused. Why would the Giants co-owner have anything to do with a settlement?
Seriously, what an odd tweet. I expected more details or something. I just hope Goodell has to call in Tags again. Getting the previous commish to clean up his mistakes is my favorite thing he's done so far.
This doesn't make any sense to me.
Anything you'd like to add?
Alligatorjandro
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Have you heard the good word about Tom Brady?
forgeforsaken
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It feels like Mort screwed up and forgot to post another tweet before this to setup some kind of narrative.
Nothing I can do to change the narrative.
Court of public opinion convened a long time ago.
Now it's just a matter of how and how long does it take for the Patriots to clean up their tainted reputation. At least they have the future to change their ways.
Will they? I hope so. It's like rooting for a junky that was once a good person. Will they get off the smack and stop sucking dicks for crack? Can't say for certain, but hopefully Brady corrupting the game will scare them straight.
Ah, so the echos you're talking about are all the facts coming to light.
Skellig Gra
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He's the head of the competition committee. So rule changes and all that.
Ohh good point. I know he's well respected, but I didn't know that.
Don't let me interrupt your circle jerk.
See, you have nothing to say but "waaaah :,("
not psycho
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Nothing you can do, or nothing you want to do?
You could probably change the narrative (if only the one in your own head) if you read up on the case. I won't claim it would be worth your time to do so of course.
TheLostBigBoss
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People who just trolled got tired of doing it every day for six months on end, so it's really shocking to see fans of the team talk about their team.
There is nothing to say.
Verdict is out on the Pats and has been for a long time now.
I have no tears. My team has regularly defeated them both in the regular season and in the postseason. Even with the shady shit they're known for.
If anything I feel sorry for the Pats fans, having to go to bat for a shitty org really takes the fun out of the game.
How weak does your mind need to be that it can be so readily and completely controlled by what football team it roots for? I mean, I understand many people are just trolling because they think it's funny, but my real worry is that some of you actually think you're right. It's a little terrifying.
You can join now. They have female viagra
RoslindaleOne
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Don't feel bad for me because the Pats just won their 4th Super Bowl. I love this team and no anti pats fan will ever change my mind. Have a nice day.
TheLostBigBoss
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rofl, and I thought Pats fans were the delusional ones
EDIT: I took the bait. I shouldn't have done that
I'm sorry your team sucks.
Please let me see your Mensa card. I want to see how superior your mind really is.
Have you been following this closely? First I've heard of such a thing.
Well...you thought right. Pats fans are the delusional ones. Right up there with Barry, Lance, 9/11 conspiracies, denying climate change and evolution, young Earth people, the list goes on.
If denying influence to whatever team you choose to support is the qualification for Mensa membership it seems the organization is even less useful than I originally thought.
TheLostBigBoss
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ok, this is the type of shit that's really not needed in this thread.
The NFL thread has enough of this trollish shit which is annoying enough, this thread is for the suspension and all relevant info when it comes to league politics and breaking news.
Roberto Duran
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This is Chris Mortensen's report (I know, I know):
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...john-mara-join-tom-brady-nfl-settlement-talks
Nobody is above influence. I'm sure you a carry a colorless mind though.
The denial in here is pretty much in line with all those things.
It's not the I make the rules and regulations of this thread when someone has an opinion against my team thread. It's the Tom Brady is being unfairly persecuted, sorry the Tom Brady suspension thread.
I think denial of events relating to that team's history is fair game.
TheLostBigBoss
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Seriously, just stop, there are ways to say things that don't enflame an entire fanbase and you clearly have no intention of actually have a discussion, you're just saying ludicrous stuff to get people pissed.
This thread isn't about "OMG PATS CHEATERS!". This thread is about Brady's suspension hearing and what's going on with it and what the league is doing, anything else is derailing.
if you want to talk about the pats fans and how they are crazy delusional, go to the NFL thread and have at it.
Surely no one is, but those who embrace it and refuse to recognize it are fools.
Well lucky for you my phone is about to die.
The denial is basically a perpetual motion machine though.
I just worry about the younger generation of Pats fans. Hopefully they can learn from history and not accept these crimes.
I'm wondering if your consistent reference to allegations supported only by fourth-grade-droupout level science as true is the result of your delusion or simply your attempt to maintain it.
Let's say the Pats didn't cheat this time.
Did the Pats cheat with SpyGate? Yes or No?
They broke the rules regarding from what location the opposite team could be filmed, yes.
Roberto Duran
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Judge Berman would like to have a word with you. You're ridiculous.
DrForester
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Did they break the rules? Yes. Did they cheat to the extent that a lot of people think they did? No.
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