DrForester
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Who is Jeff Pash? The NFL web of bullshit is getting confusing.
Tom Brady's Suspension Appeal News
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Who is Jeff Pash? The NFL web of bullshit is getting confusing.
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forgeforsaken
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Would be kind of ironic if this gets wiped because the NFL refused to let someone testify when they were dinging the Patriots for the same in the Wells Report.
darkazcura
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Berman is harsh to NFL for second straight week on how they handled Brady's punishment with lack of evidence.
NFL responds by saying they thought of punishing him even harder.
Really helping your case there, NFL.
This is interesting, is the Judging basically hinting at the NFL to settle or else he will vacate?
That would be awesome.
DrForester
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Is it just blind hate for Brady and the Patriots, or do you really think the NFL should be able to suspend players for minor issues and without any evidence?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Judge is clearly putting the pressure on the NFL to come to the table and settle.
They seem to be doubling down and refusing. He's going to cream them if they continue to refuse.
They seem to be doubling down and refusing. He's going to cream them if they continue to refuse.
I know right. Owns a vineyard, enjoying retirement. Terrible life.
Here you go, just posted
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-pa...fl-refusing-to-let-jeffrey-pash-be-questioned
EDIT: LOL
Your team may actually win
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-pa...fl-refusing-to-let-jeffrey-pash-be-questioned
EDIT: LOL
Your team may actually win
I just honestly want to see how bad Jimmy G can sink the franchise.
Prepare for irrelevancy (although I can see Bill working his "magic."
wicked pissah
DrForester
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Who would play Goodell in a movie?
Any pimple on someone's anus could pull it off. Have your pick.
Nicolas Cage
LyleLanley
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Cage is Brady.
Bill Pullman would do a damn fine job.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Judge making it rough.
Reading some of the quotes; my Kessler man-crush grows more and more.
Sounds like unless the NFL honestly believes it'll lose, they won't compromise, so Judge is going to play them in a game of chicken until they budge.
Still think Brady gets 2 games for "lack of cooperation" and life goes on.
Sounds like unless the NFL honestly believes it'll lose, they won't compromise, so Judge is going to play them in a game of chicken until they budge.
Still think Brady gets 2 games for "lack of cooperation" and life goes on.
I still think he will not even get a game. MAYBE one, but I doubt it. So your saying anytime a player does not cooperate, misses a hearing meeting, doesn't return a call ... he is going to miss games? Seriously?
There is no way they would give Goodell that much power.
Brady isn't going to take any suspension because that would be admitting guilt. At least that is what reports from the Brady camp are saying. All the talk about Brady taking a game is from the NFL. This thing is going to last a long ass time. I don't see this ending any time soon. I'm starting to believe the reports saying that regardless of the outcome this is going to appeals.
Not to mention got to win a Super Bowl.
I think it might be one, but I agree on Kessler. I wish the full transcripts of the court hearings were available to pore through.
I love that the judge asked how many games were for deflation and how many for lack of cooperation. Also what would be the penalty for the next person who deflated but cooperated. Great questions. Would love to hear Goodell answer that.
Does anyone know what 'cumulative' means in this legal sense? Seems key based on the reporting. From what I can gather it might mean something like redundant or repetitive (i.e. repeating past finding)?
TheLostBigBoss
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Hey guys can we keep the NFL drama shit in the NFL thread and the specific Brady suspension stuff in this one?
DrForester
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People need to realize that this has nothing to do with the Patriots or Brady, it's all about Goodell getting the power to get whatever he wants, to whoever he wants, whenever he wants.
Rabbi_Vole
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Can even legally be overturned? I'm pretty sure the law is on the NFL side.
BobTheFork
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Which was given to him in the last CBA. It seems to stupid; They signed off on it and then were complaining about it within months and it's a long time before they will get to bargain it out of their deal.
The CBA spells out specific punishments for every infraction. This suspension goes above and beyond anything in that document. Therefore, the legal system is on Brady's side.
Have you noticed how often players fight a suspension and then it's reduced? That's because Goodell went further than the CBA allows. He doesn't have unlimited power, though if the NFL wins this case, that sets a terrible precedent.
No it is not. Why do people keep saying this? If it were, the court would not hear the case.
The appeal is on the process. Because the NFL filed asking for validation of it's process, the judge is doing just that. Unfortunately for the NFL, the judge (rightfully) is considering the whole process which also includes steps before Article 48(42?).
He can rule there should never have been an arbitration process to begin with, thus it is not a fair process. This is how weaker unions can still win over stronger (unfairly agreed upon) CBA's. If this was not the case, you would have big stores (See large grocery stores) hold out against every union within it's company until the people become so desperate for money that they agree to anything.
He does have unlimited arrogance though.
Megalosaro
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Do you guys think Robert kraft regrets his involvement in negotiating the current CBA? He was one of the key figures in playing it through
TheLostBigBoss
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no, he regrets going to bat for Roger during the Rice fiasco on national media.
well, I'm sure he regrets that too.
I don't think so. This has a more of a movie plot of how much Goodell has been corrupted by power(might as well have the one ring). Without Hind sight I don't think anyone honestly saw him going this over the top.
Not if he loses this case!
He saw an opportunity to fix his reputation, and prove he's by the books. People questioned his credibility after TMZ outted him for ray rice, his handling of Adrian Peterson and various other issues, etc. On top of that it worked by dispelling the whole kraft as co-comissioner narrative. Instead and it only further solidified the guy as a clueless, inconsistent figure head for the league. He's so committed to that wells report, an why not? He looks like a moron either way so why not go down swinging.
Skateboard P
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I don't think you guys understand...Goodell already has that power. There's no DUI punishment coded into the CBA...but often times people are suspended a game. The Steelers players were fined and suspended multiple times for hitting people "hard", more or less.
4 games for smoking substances that are legal in multiple states.
Mind you, the Browner "PED" suspension was that he missed taking a drug test..when he wasn't in the NFL, he was playing in the CFL. The codified rules apply to you even when you aren't in the NFL...cuz...this is what happens when you have monopolies on an entire industry.
Megalosaro
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You can say that about ESPNs reporting this entire case. Be skeptical of their reporting
Their reporters should probably take a break from trying to be the first with a story on deflategate news. Batting 1.000 on bullshit
Is it ok for the NFL to suspend players for major issues without any evidence? Because they do it all the time.
LyleLanley
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It's probably what the NFL told them to report.
you mean doing what was given to him in the CBA signed by the Owners and the NFLPA?
I would fully trust any leak that has "league sources". They have proven to be completely trustworthy and honest.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/634067937456996356
It is clear again that the league sources lied.
I thought Brady was skipping practice today to go to court?
Megalosaro
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He was told by the judge yesterday he didn't need to.
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