Tom Warren: I've heard from insiders that [Microsoft's own handheld] it's essentially canceled as the company focuses on Xbox's new software platform
memoryman3
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Xbox at least has some market share against PS. No one buys games on the Windows Store, and publishers often do Xbox console/Steam releases while excluding Xbox PC.
Playstation is as dead as Xbox only people are buying it. There hasn't been shit this gen on the PS5 and it isn't going to get any better. The days of consoles is about over. There sure as hell won't be anymore physical media after this gen. Microsoft owns a good share of the IPs that people will be buying on their PlayStation, there is no incentive for them to make a box anymore.
I can't believe there are still fanboys like its 2005. Nobodys consoles are cutting edge anymore, just a bunch of off the shelf underpowered PC parts and don't get me started on how trash the games are anymore especially the exclusive scene. It's NOTHING like it used to be as its just going to get worse.
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Giallo Corsa
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C'mon man, make it less obvious
PS : in before "you're a fanboy"
PS2 : 2018 account with 30-something posts, and people wonder why we're talking about alt-accounts and astroturfers in here...
Gambit2483
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Maybe that's the final phase of "Project Lateral"?
Nonehxc
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I salute you, my War Queen.
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reinking
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FIREKNIGHT2029
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Like I and many others have been saying, the era of traditional Xbox consoles is over.
From here on out it's ASUS PC "console" boxes with Xbox stickers on them. MS is done with the hardware business.
From here on out it's ASUS PC "console" boxes with Xbox stickers on them. MS is done with the hardware business.
jm89
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Agreed playstation is a dead as Xbox, here's the proof
News Sales-Age Platform Thread 'PS5 shipments top 77.8 million'
PlayStation 5 has shipped 77.8 million units worldwide, Sony announced in its financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2025.
A total of 2.8 million PlayStation 5 units were shipped during the three months ended March 31, 2025, which is down 1.7 million from the same period the previous fiscal year.
Here are a couple of additional statistics:
- There are 124 million monthly active users on PlayStation Network as of March 31, 2025, which is up six million from the...
ChorizoPicozo
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What competition?
Microsoft's competition is to charge more for the Xbox SX than the PS5 PRO and encourage Sony to increase the price of the console.
ShaiKhulud1989
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If hardly anyone bought the current Xbox (even at fire sale prices), who will be buying this thing? I fully expect this will also be cancelled internally, if it hasn't been already.
Nonehxc
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Ahhh, the old Titty Terminal.
I mean... I'm old enough to go that far.
Good times.
Kerotan
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I thought I'd take great satisfaction if this moment ever arrived but I actually just feel pity.
Agreed playstation is a dead as Xbox, here's the proof
News Sales-Age Platform Thread 'PS5 shipments top 77.8 million'
PlayStation 5 has shipped 77.8 million units worldwide, Sony announced in its financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2025.
A total of 2.8 million PlayStation 5 units were shipped during the three months ended March 31, 2025, which is down 1.7 million from the same period the previous fiscal year.
Here are a couple of additional statistics:
- There are 124 million monthly active users on PlayStation Network as of March 31, 2025, which is up six million from the...
And its game lineup is complete trash. Nobody said it wasn't selling but its dead for what a Sony system used to represent.
Awesome sales #'s though. I am sure they benefit you and are really fun to play. The worst thing is that they are making money hand over fist. They have no incentive to do anything different than they are doing now. Now go back to being a good little soldier and keep buying remasters of a remaster of a remaster or the next COD game. You will keep buying once they take physical awsy too just like you paid to play online when it was so bad Microsoft was doing it etc.. The Ponies always have an excuse to keep being milked.
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mayham2199
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lol Jesus get help. This is supposed to be a fun hobby. Who cares if people enjoy remasters and cod. You aren't better than anyone just cause you don't play COD.
ZehDon
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I stepped away from Sony because buying overpriced consoles to play overpriced last-generation remasters wasn't something I'm interested in. I actually enjoy Xbox's multi-device / multi-platform approach, and their content appeals to me more. I'd like them to stick around for a while longer, yet. I'll gladly move away from my Xbox consoles for their Xbox PC Hybrids if:
- Windows gets a dedicated gaming mode that provides the same kind of performance improvements that the Xbox consoles deliver for their hardware.
- Microsoft brings proper Xbox emulation to Windows so my decades of purchases remain alive and available.
Bumblebeetuna
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Topher
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ftfy
DeltaPolarBear
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The article that started this thread is actually pointing out something important.
Basically Microsoft had two paths to go for the Xbox handheld. Either continue with the Xbox console hardware but in a handheld, OR just have a PC with Xbox PC ports.
And the news is that Microsoft is abandoning the Xbox hardware version, thus making backwards compatibility MUCH harder. If not abandoned all together. It seems the news now is that Play Anywhere games are how Xbox games would survive now (especially after the recent showcase). And that unless a decent emulator is made the Xbox games that aren't play anywhere will not survive the transition.
It is not a surprise all things considered, as it is the cheapest option. But it is also not what Xbox customers want to hear.
Basically Microsoft had two paths to go for the Xbox handheld. Either continue with the Xbox console hardware but in a handheld, OR just have a PC with Xbox PC ports.
And the news is that Microsoft is abandoning the Xbox hardware version, thus making backwards compatibility MUCH harder. If not abandoned all together. It seems the news now is that Play Anywhere games are how Xbox games would survive now (especially after the recent showcase). And that unless a decent emulator is made the Xbox games that aren't play anywhere will not survive the transition.
It is not a surprise all things considered, as it is the cheapest option. But it is also not what Xbox customers want to hear.
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GulfCoastZilla
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If I can buy a machine that runs Xbox games and steam games, without dropping a couple thousand on a brand new PC, I would be there in a heart beat.
I don't need a dedicated Xbox console.
I don't need a dedicated Xbox console.
Gambit2483
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So basically a steam machine? With the Xbox sticker slapped on the side?
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demigod
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ChorizoPicozo
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Now say it without crying.
ReasonBeing
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Just makes sense. If they do plan on moving the Xbox brand to PC, they need to be focused on making Windows the best place to play. Releasing a machine in 2027 that focuses on playing your 2020 machine's games doesn't seem like it would have much market potential.
Punished Miku
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Watched the Skill Up video on it. Kind of lost in all the negativity around here of course but he sounded pretty impressed with the actual hardware and the software. He pretty much acted like it surpassed Steam Deck easily in terms of power and wider variety of available PC games. Said it needs more testing and voiced some concerns about the battery life.
Really the main drawbacks for me would be the price point and just needing much more transparency about the full scope of their forward compatability plans.
Really the main drawbacks for me would be the price point and just needing much more transparency about the full scope of their forward compatability plans.
KungFucius
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That's silly. They should still put out some cheap hardware. They have 10 million plus GamePass subs on a console. Maybe they contract that out too like the PC handheld, but it still makes sense to have something available even if it is just XSX Pro - level next gen something.
You don't throw away millions of customers just because you aren't the top of a particular market. This is like sitting down in the middle of a race because someone passed you. It is shitty and pathetic and financially irresponsible.
Orbital2060
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The original statement said they were still investing heavily (quote) in the native handheld, but that they had changed focus to developing Windows for gaming. I thought it sounded like they tried to dispel ideas of waiting for that handheld to be ready, and have people focus on the Asus handheld - for now.
www.windowscentral.com
EXCLUSIVE: Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined (for now)
Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.
www.windowscentral.com
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ReasonBeing
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This is my dream machine. To be able to play my console library and allow me to use other store fronts. Here is to hoping they can make it happen.
Nah it's just a normal console.
reinking
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Do you believe this is going to run like a $2000 PC? You can be there right now.
Gameplay Gods Bless
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No they mean the PC handheld made by Microsoft.
drganon
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Whatever you say, guy who is definitely not some previously banned poster's alt.
bitbydeath
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This one?
ChorizoPicozo
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I'm pretty sure Xbox isn't making money. They cant afford do shit at this point. What they are trying to do is find a place in the market with what they have.
Sebastian1295
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I'm not a big xbox fan but i still don't want the downfall of the brand to happen 'like some of the comments on here want to happen'. Xbox being around keeps sony in check and i like having a third option for home console gaming in the marketplace. They really fucked themselves though by going all in on gamepass and i really wish they'd get rid of it and go back to having exclusives and selling physical games.
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Venom Snake
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Simpkin92
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This kinda sucks for me. I have loved Xbox since 2008 and have stuck with them as my main console up to date. I've never had a problem with PlayStation I originally just wanted halo then slowly got invested into the ecosystem. I had a PS1 and PS2 before that. I love Nintendo and will always have whatever they put out.
It's obvious I'm going to have to change over to something new. It gotta be a PC right? Plays Gamepass, steam, PlayStation games (I don't care to wait) etc. Not sure how much I'd be missing out with console only games. I'm not going to buy both but buying into PlayStation at this point seems like the wrong direction for me
It's obvious I'm going to have to change over to something new. It gotta be a PC right? Plays Gamepass, steam, PlayStation games (I don't care to wait) etc. Not sure how much I'd be missing out with console only games. I'm not going to buy both but buying into PlayStation at this point seems like the wrong direction for me
Durin
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They should've been focusing on this "new" software platform back when Windows 8 was a thing. The entire pitch back then was to have their one OS span across multiple device types, and adjust to their form-factor. Never really happened, Windows only bloated more background resources, their first stab at a game mode seemed to somehow worsen game performance than having it off in titles. They never implemented stuff that Valve could figure out with their first stab at a handheld by having you press a button to go into a sleep mode that takes less power, and saves your game state.
It appears like they're FINALLY doing something, I just don't get why it took so long to do a thing people would've wanted years ago.
It appears like they're FINALLY doing something, I just don't get why it took so long to do a thing people would've wanted years ago.
Topher
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With Steam?
bitbydeath
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If you're just Game Passing it then you may as well keep riding it til the wheels fall off.
Steam might have a better option in future to go up against PC/Windows.
Idk, probably not. Kinda ruins the whole business model if people can bypass your store.
Neofire
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Yup and I feel bad for the individuals who invested in Microsoft's platform. They can get ready to pay out the ass for 3rd party systems because almost all of them aren't going to be focused on affordably, the RoG Xbox handhelds included.
Well it was coming....fk Sony lost its main direct competitor in the market. I know Microsoft has been shriveling up as a real competitor since the 360 days but even in the xbox one era it had an impact. This is going to be terrible for the market and consumers, sadly outside the jokes and banter.
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Heisenberg007
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It makes sense, doesn't it?
Microsoft's own handheld was Xbox's new device. The recently announced handheld is Asus's new device. The new Xbox has been reportedly canceled.
demigod
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How far along would you say the xbox handheld was vs the console?
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